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Liverpool Thread
- Thread starter Misfit
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lo zio
International
- 24 October 2005
- Team
- Palermo
Re: Liverpool Thread
thanks for the infos Tik!
and yeah i certainly understand roy hasn't given u guys much reason to support him, but to be honest i don't think capello himself could have done much better, given the situation.
as for the "roy not been the best man for the job" point, i don't think there's really much to talk about, as when u have to replace a coach u have to deal with what the market offers u in that moment.
liverpool certainly deserves a top class coach, but there weren't top class coaches available this summer, and roy was definitely the most reasonable pick.
i know u guys probably consider roy a complete ignorant in tactics right now..... but his entire carreer (bar this first liverpool matches) proves otherwise.
anyhow i really hope this ownership issue will be sorted out as soon as possible. hopefully with a new steady ownership, it will be easier for roy to work with his players. good luck guys
thanks for the infos Tik!
and yeah i certainly understand roy hasn't given u guys much reason to support him, but to be honest i don't think capello himself could have done much better, given the situation.
as for the "roy not been the best man for the job" point, i don't think there's really much to talk about, as when u have to replace a coach u have to deal with what the market offers u in that moment.
liverpool certainly deserves a top class coach, but there weren't top class coaches available this summer, and roy was definitely the most reasonable pick.
i know u guys probably consider roy a complete ignorant in tactics right now..... but his entire carreer (bar this first liverpool matches) proves otherwise.
anyhow i really hope this ownership issue will be sorted out as soon as possible. hopefully with a new steady ownership, it will be easier for roy to work with his players. good luck guys
kevano22
TDWFYU
- 2 August 2003
Re: Liverpool Thread
10.30am tomorrow - our fate is decided.
10.30am tomorrow - our fate is decided.
TikTikTikTikTik
*****
- 7 August 2004
- Team
- Liverpool
Re: Liverpool Thread
@ Ben,
Yeah I think it was still the best decision to have him. Mostly because I'm pretty sure new owners will be getting someone else in next summer. As long as we can manage a EL place by the seasons end it will be a succesfull season imo. And that's only to be able to offer euro football for potential signings.
@ Ben,
Yeah I think it was still the best decision to have him. Mostly because I'm pretty sure new owners will be getting someone else in next summer. As long as we can manage a EL place by the seasons end it will be a succesfull season imo. And that's only to be able to offer euro football for potential signings.
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DagsJT
Guest
Re: Liverpool Thread
Not totally, even if RBS win that then there's still Liverpool FC vs Hicks etc.
Not totally, even if RBS win that then there's still Liverpool FC vs Hicks etc.
Jumbo_
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Re: Liverpool Thread
And there's a chance Hicks could win and then sell to Lim or whoever makes the highest offer. From the summaries his case doesn't sound as desperate and stupid as I was expecting.
And there's a chance Hicks could win and then sell to Lim or whoever makes the highest offer. From the summaries his case doesn't sound as desperate and stupid as I was expecting.
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DagsJT
Guest
Re: Liverpool Thread
Even if he wins, he still needs to find the money to pay RBS. If he does win, I fully expect RBS to call the debt in and put us in administration where they'd sell to NESV anyway.
Even if he wins, he still needs to find the money to pay RBS. If he does win, I fully expect RBS to call the debt in and put us in administration where they'd sell to NESV anyway.
Jumbo_
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Re: Liverpool Thread
But if all Hicks wants is the best offer then there is little negotiating to do and Mills or Lim can pay RBS straight away. They just want their money, they dont care who pays it.
But if all Hicks wants is the best offer then there is little negotiating to do and Mills or Lim can pay RBS straight away. They just want their money, they dont care who pays it.
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DagsJT
Guest
Re: Liverpool Thread
RBS has already stated that it favours the NESV bid, it said the same in court today I believe.
RBS has already stated that it favours the NESV bid, it said the same in court today I believe.
Jumbo_
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Re: Liverpool Thread
Yeah but 'favours' doesn't mean they will outright reject any other bid and automatically place the club in administration if Hicks wins.
Yeah but 'favours' doesn't mean they will outright reject any other bid and automatically place the club in administration if Hicks wins.
UJSupanova
@Bobothy
Re: Liverpool Thread
Hicks's arguments were:
1. He and Gillett were exluded from the sales process and didn't know anything about the meeting.
This was proven to be a lie in court as there was correspondence between the board and the owners about the meeting and Hicks's personal lawyer was on the phone throughout the meeting.
2. There were better offers on the table than the NESV bid and the board didn't consider them properly.
This was also proven to be lies as they proved in court today that the Meriton bid was significantly less than the NESV bid and Mill Financial wanted exclusivity which was prohibited by the agreement with RBS. Therefore the board accepted the best bid.
3. He claimed the 3 independent board members referred to themselves as the "Home Team" and claimed their sub-committee was in breach of contract by agreeing the sale without the owners presence or knowledge.
This was also proven to be lies by the fact that they knew all about the meeting and listened in, also by law if the board has a majority they can continue with a vote regardless of the presense of shareholders. If they were present the vote would have been 3-2, they abstained from voting which left it at 3-0 so the sale was approved. Also the "home team" thing was in reference to the phone line used to conduct negotiations with bidders.
Update: Dan Roan just said on twitter that the verdict will now be at 10am and not 10:30am.
Hicks's arguments were:
1. He and Gillett were exluded from the sales process and didn't know anything about the meeting.
This was proven to be a lie in court as there was correspondence between the board and the owners about the meeting and Hicks's personal lawyer was on the phone throughout the meeting.
2. There were better offers on the table than the NESV bid and the board didn't consider them properly.
This was also proven to be lies as they proved in court today that the Meriton bid was significantly less than the NESV bid and Mill Financial wanted exclusivity which was prohibited by the agreement with RBS. Therefore the board accepted the best bid.
3. He claimed the 3 independent board members referred to themselves as the "Home Team" and claimed their sub-committee was in breach of contract by agreeing the sale without the owners presence or knowledge.
This was also proven to be lies by the fact that they knew all about the meeting and listened in, also by law if the board has a majority they can continue with a vote regardless of the presense of shareholders. If they were present the vote would have been 3-2, they abstained from voting which left it at 3-0 so the sale was approved. Also the "home team" thing was in reference to the phone line used to conduct negotiations with bidders.
Update: Dan Roan just said on twitter that the verdict will now be at 10am and not 10:30am.
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DagsJT
Guest
Re: Liverpool Thread
Wasn't Hicks' son also on that same phonecall? Either way, Hicks got pulled up having his son on a phonecall where it was supposed to be board members only.
Wasn't Hicks' son also on that same phonecall? Either way, Hicks got pulled up having his son on a phonecall where it was supposed to be board members only.
mathewsss
Champions League
Re: Liverpool Thread
Amidst all this....one thing that strikes me is ...why is RBS and Broughton so adamant about the NESV bid ?...
it seems to be this is favored by RBS for some reason, and hence Broughton
and the board want that one....
G&H want more money....so they want the other bids....
The Singaporean guy will give more money...but has no talk of the stadium..
Since it is not clear about NESV's funds...and whether they will add
any debt ?
Just hope this nightmare gets over....and we can just focus on the pitch...
Amidst all this....one thing that strikes me is ...why is RBS and Broughton so adamant about the NESV bid ?...
it seems to be this is favored by RBS for some reason, and hence Broughton
and the board want that one....
G&H want more money....so they want the other bids....
The Singaporean guy will give more money...but has no talk of the stadium..
Since it is not clear about NESV's funds...and whether they will add
any debt ?
Just hope this nightmare gets over....and we can just focus on the pitch...
UJSupanova
@Bobothy
Re: Liverpool Thread
Their job was to pick the best bid, and clearly NESV are the best of the three.
Meriton/Lim haven't got the funds to build the stadium (he's worth £1bn, take away the £360m to buy the club, £40m transfer funds and that leaves £600m, the stadium will cost around £400m leaving him with £200m in the bank. I really can't see that working out), Mill Financial are a hedge fund and should therefore be avoided at all costs plus they have close links with Hicks so it's possible he'd remain on the board, then there's the NESV bid, with 17 major investors, a background of sporting success and a background of developing and building new stadia. Clearly that's the best one.
Their job was to pick the best bid, and clearly NESV are the best of the three.
Meriton/Lim haven't got the funds to build the stadium (he's worth £1bn, take away the £360m to buy the club, £40m transfer funds and that leaves £600m, the stadium will cost around £400m leaving him with £200m in the bank. I really can't see that working out), Mill Financial are a hedge fund and should therefore be avoided at all costs plus they have close links with Hicks so it's possible he'd remain on the board, then there's the NESV bid, with 17 major investors, a background of sporting success and a background of developing and building new stadia. Clearly that's the best one.
mathewsss
Champions League
Re: Liverpool Thread
Sounds good....then....hope this is a new dawn for LFC.....
debt-free....and empowered for success on the pitch....
Sounds good....then....hope this is a new dawn for LFC.....
debt-free....and empowered for success on the pitch....
UJSupanova
@Bobothy
Re: Liverpool Thread
Hopefully mate, as John Henry put it on Twitter earlier today: "Everyone is hoping for the best. There have been enough twists and turns. Hopefully all gets sorted out soon; LFC moves forward...In the interim, we're all rooting for the same thing."
Hopefully mate, as John Henry put it on Twitter earlier today: "Everyone is hoping for the best. There have been enough twists and turns. Hopefully all gets sorted out soon; LFC moves forward...In the interim, we're all rooting for the same thing."
UJSupanova
@Bobothy
Re: Liverpool Thread
Kuyt has been taken to hospital with an ankle injury.
Kuyt has been taken to hospital with an ankle injury.
gerd
Retired Footballer
Re: Liverpool Thread
Good luck today guys...
PS: and i agree with Ben on Hodgson.
Good luck today guys...
PS: and i agree with Ben on Hodgson.
TikTikTikTikTik
*****
- 7 August 2004
- Team
- Liverpool
Re: Liverpool Thread
Yep, Kuyt out for a couple of months according to Dutch radio. Agger injured on international duty aswell. Surprised Torres hasn't been injured.
Yep, Kuyt out for a couple of months according to Dutch radio. Agger injured on international duty aswell. Surprised Torres hasn't been injured.
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DagsJT
Guest
Re: Liverpool Thread
Seems to be a lot of people suggesting that the verdict will go in RBS's favour and the board is still with Purslow and Ayre, but the board must consider other offers.
Longest hour ever waiting for 10am...
Seems to be a lot of people suggesting that the verdict will go in RBS's favour and the board is still with Purslow and Ayre, but the board must consider other offers.
Longest hour ever waiting for 10am...
Bitter Rivals
International
- 24 January 2005
Re: Liverpool Thread
not long now
not long now
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DagsJT
Guest
Re: Liverpool Thread
Edit:
LIM FOR NEW OWNER!
Edit:
LIM FOR NEW OWNER!
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DagsJT
Guest
Re: Liverpool Thread
Sigh of relief, judge ruled in favour of RBS.
Still far from over though, appeals and counter-claims likely.
Sigh of relief, judge ruled in favour of RBS.
Still far from over though, appeals and counter-claims likely.
Bitter Rivals
International
- 24 January 2005
Re: Liverpool Thread
does that mean those two clowns are nearly goners?
does that mean those two clowns are nearly goners?
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DagsJT
Guest
Re: Liverpool Thread
Bitter Rivals
International
- 24 January 2005
Re: Liverpool Thread
haha apt gif
haha apt gif
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DagsJT
Guest
Re: Liverpool Thread
Appeal refused and board meeting at 8pm tonight to discuss sale. No confirmation that it will actually be to NESV though...
Appeal refused and board meeting at 8pm tonight to discuss sale. No confirmation that it will actually be to NESV though...
TikTikTikTikTik
*****
- 7 August 2004
- Team
- Liverpool
Re: Liverpool Thread
Judge says appeal would be inappropriate. Let's hope they now f#$k off! They also have to pay the court and legal costs.
Judge says appeal would be inappropriate. Let's hope they now f#$k off! They also have to pay the court and legal costs.
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DagsJT
Guest
Re: Liverpool Thread
http://twitpic.com/2x8c0g
And before any United fans come in and try to put a downer on the news somehow, yes I am celebrating Broughton and Purslow
http://twitpic.com/2x8c0g
And before any United fans come in and try to put a downer on the news somehow, yes I am celebrating Broughton and Purslow
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