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Hopefully, he's not.
Hopefully, he's not.
Liverpool Thread
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Aboutreika18
Too Black, Too Strong
- 5 September 2006
Re: Liverpool Thread
TBH, I don't really understand why they would want someone like Barry instead of Alonso. Very strange...
MO_DINERO
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- 29 July 2004
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Vargas and Zarate just signed for Fiorentina & Lazio respectively, I know we've just signed Dossena (I hope he's as good as lo zio says he is) but I feel we've missed a trick here with these two, they're exactly the type of players we need.
Vargas and Zarate just signed for Fiorentina & Lazio respectively, I know we've just signed Dossena (I hope he's as good as lo zio says he is) but I feel we've missed a trick here with these two, they're exactly the type of players we need.
Nick Cave
Wrexham fan for my sins...
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I think crouch will be a great buy for Harry. In my opinion your better off without Kewell and I know a few Leeds fans who are not too happy too..
I think crouch will be a great buy for Harry. In my opinion your better off without Kewell and I know a few Leeds fans who are not too happy too..
YoungGun_UK
20 TIMES!
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Just wondering, do you lot actually have 15-16M already to sign Barry or is that fee depending on Alonso's sale? if not then actually you lot have quite a lot of money to be honest. Crouch's sale could bring in a RM and then you would also have around 15M from the Alonso sale, honestly probably would spend that to bring in more depth as your starting 11 is looking quite good now.
Just wondering, do you lot actually have 15-16M already to sign Barry or is that fee depending on Alonso's sale? if not then actually you lot have quite a lot of money to be honest. Crouch's sale could bring in a RM and then you would also have around 15M from the Alonso sale, honestly probably would spend that to bring in more depth as your starting 11 is looking quite good now.
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No, we're skint. I am absolutely convinced that our net spent this summer will be around 3-5M max. Otherwise, Rafa would not have gone bargaining on freebies like Degen, and would have already bought Barry.
No, we're skint. I am absolutely convinced that our net spent this summer will be around 3-5M max. Otherwise, Rafa would not have gone bargaining on freebies like Degen, and would have already bought Barry.
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Not to bother by Vargas, if Dossena is as good as Ben says (and he's normally right). And Rafa rarely gets it wrong with expensive defenders.
Zarate, I would agree. We were definitely interested, but maybe he wanted to move to Italy.
Not to bother by Vargas, if Dossena is as good as Ben says (and he's normally right). And Rafa rarely gets it wrong with expensive defenders.
Zarate, I would agree. We were definitely interested, but maybe he wanted to move to Italy.
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Thanks for everything Crouchie, you'll always be my favorite England striker
And I presume Portsmouth's going to aim for that 4th spot now, bugger. I hope we step up a gear so it would be Arsenal's problem instead of ours.
Thanks for everything Crouchie, you'll always be my favorite England striker
And I presume Portsmouth's going to aim for that 4th spot now, bugger. I hope we step up a gear so it would be Arsenal's problem instead of ours.
phrase
Tactician
- 12 December 2002
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I am baffled to why would Rafa let Peter Crouch go...you lot will miss him.
I am baffled to why would Rafa let Peter Crouch go...you lot will miss him.
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I think it's more like both sides know Crouch will a waste of talent in the sidelines because of Rafa's tactics. It's been like that for a year and since this year is Crouch's last year in the contract, better to sell now.
I think it's more like both sides know Crouch will a waste of talent in the sidelines because of Rafa's tactics. It's been like that for a year and since this year is Crouch's last year in the contract, better to sell now.
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Agreed on the price and let Crouch talk to Portsmouth. It's a matter of time. And don't be surprised if Barry comes right after Crouch departs.
Heh found a very young Torres playing in the under-12 Atletico Madrid. He's been doing what he's been doing in Liverpool all his life.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/vide...-for-atletico-madrid-juniors-100252-21207387/
Agreed on the price and let Crouch talk to Portsmouth. It's a matter of time. And don't be surprised if Barry comes right after Crouch departs.
Heh found a very young Torres playing in the under-12 Atletico Madrid. He's been doing what he's been doing in Liverpool all his life.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/vide...-for-atletico-madrid-juniors-100252-21207387/
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DagsJT
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Hope Crouch does well at Pompey, he's been a great player for us and I think most Liverpool fans will wish him well.
Hope Crouch does well at Pompey, he's been a great player for us and I think most Liverpool fans will wish him well.
YoungGun_UK
20 TIMES!
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He was a great player to bring on for the last 20 but the problem was he was to good for that, you'll miss him.
He was a great player to bring on for the last 20 but the problem was he was to good for that, you'll miss him.
god84
League 1
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hey guys does anyone have a decent tactic to use with liverpool on pes08?... i did have one on pes6 but it dont seem te work now.
also am i alone in thinking barry is not good enough to play for liverpool. i cant help but think gerrard is the force behind this signing, well not being funny but just because he's captain i still wouldnt allow him say in who i sign hes just a player. im a reds fan and i have got to say that with the midfielders i have seen over the years i dont think barry would be in the top 20. also for 18mil you could have two class players just think....Deco cost chelsea 8mil...say liverpool brought him thet'd still have 10mil which could have been used two ways, e.g if defoe didnt go te pompy they coulda got him,or a player of similar ability OR they could keep the 10mil sold crouch for 8-9mil and bang with that they could have brought a right winger...Quaresma anyone? i would or if not him what about lennon surely his situation at spurs would knock his fee down! and hey i'd keep alonso lets face it worlds best passer and solid all rounder. i wouldnt let him go especially at his current age his hitting prime.
hey guys does anyone have a decent tactic to use with liverpool on pes08?... i did have one on pes6 but it dont seem te work now.
also am i alone in thinking barry is not good enough to play for liverpool. i cant help but think gerrard is the force behind this signing, well not being funny but just because he's captain i still wouldnt allow him say in who i sign hes just a player. im a reds fan and i have got to say that with the midfielders i have seen over the years i dont think barry would be in the top 20. also for 18mil you could have two class players just think....Deco cost chelsea 8mil...say liverpool brought him thet'd still have 10mil which could have been used two ways, e.g if defoe didnt go te pompy they coulda got him,or a player of similar ability OR they could keep the 10mil sold crouch for 8-9mil and bang with that they could have brought a right winger...Quaresma anyone? i would or if not him what about lennon surely his situation at spurs would knock his fee down! and hey i'd keep alonso lets face it worlds best passer and solid all rounder. i wouldnt let him go especially at his current age his hitting prime.
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YoungGun_UK
20 TIMES!
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I do agree with your Deco point, for 8M aswell would have given you another 10M to spend in other areas maybe a decent RB and the Crouch sum on a winger.
I do agree with your Deco point, for 8M aswell would have given you another 10M to spend in other areas maybe a decent RB and the Crouch sum on a winger.
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DagsJT
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I thought we might have went for Deco but I'm not sure Deco is the workhorse that Benitez would want him to be.
Still, Deco for £8m ...
I thought we might have went for Deco but I'm not sure Deco is the workhorse that Benitez would want him to be.
Still, Deco for £8m ...
god84
League 1
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also i dont think liverpool need another central mf. just a decent winger. rb i think is ok. i like finnan and degen is pretty decent. i'd like to see insua get used abit more and i would like to see another striker as i think voronin is good but dosent seem to force himself ya'kno. i'd pick a few players tbh who i think would be good. i'd test arsenal for walcott. hes a reds fan! but on to a technical point he's not bad, LOADS of pace obviously and can run with the ball. not skillfull but he'll still smoke you. i'll tell you what i fout was funny....letting Robbie Fowler go. he had the best strike rate the season he was here yet they let him go and keep crouch. crouch had the better rate on the site by like 0.1% but thats only cos he scored the hattrick against arsenal.
also i dont think liverpool need another central mf. just a decent winger. rb i think is ok. i like finnan and degen is pretty decent. i'd like to see insua get used abit more and i would like to see another striker as i think voronin is good but dosent seem to force himself ya'kno. i'd pick a few players tbh who i think would be good. i'd test arsenal for walcott. hes a reds fan! but on to a technical point he's not bad, LOADS of pace obviously and can run with the ball. not skillfull but he'll still smoke you. i'll tell you what i fout was funny....letting Robbie Fowler go. he had the best strike rate the season he was here yet they let him go and keep crouch. crouch had the better rate on the site by like 0.1% but thats only cos he scored the hattrick against arsenal.
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DagsJT
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Fowler was WAY passed it, by a mile. Hence he's playing for Cardiff and not some other Premiership team when he left us.
Fowler was WAY passed it, by a mile. Hence he's playing for Cardiff and not some other Premiership team when he left us.
god84
League 1
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but interms of box play i would have kept him regardless. technique was way beyond crouch. and so was his mind.
but interms of box play i would have kept him regardless. technique was way beyond crouch. and so was his mind.
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Box play will get him goals IF he's able to position himself so he can react to the ball coming in. Problem is, even if his instincts are there, he has lost his lateral movements and compared to EPL defenders these days, no chance.
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I notice that you've been playing PES08, so just to clarify, it is his REAL playing ability that has dropped significantly, but maybe in game he's still quite good as a sub.
Box play will get him goals IF he's able to position himself so he can react to the ball coming in. Problem is, even if his instincts are there, he has lost his lateral movements and compared to EPL defenders these days, no chance.
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I notice that you've been playing PES08, so just to clarify, it is his REAL playing ability that has dropped significantly, but maybe in game he's still quite good as a sub.
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god84
League 1
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er koolaje if that edited comment is a insult to my intellegence then please dont go there. i was talking of real life. maybe you should watch more of him. he scored goals in the championship which is imo physicly a stronger league. and i dont think many would question that. his mindset is enough to trouble defenses did you not see his return to liverpool??? he still scored goals. if he had been made to be the main striker at the time then i think he would have scored more. and the only reason that he isnt in the prem now is that he is a fitness liability. i'd rather him in the box than some of the clowns in the prem crouch being one of them!
**does anyone agree with my post on the barry transfer? which i posted just up there**
er koolaje if that edited comment is a insult to my intellegence then please dont go there. i was talking of real life. maybe you should watch more of him. he scored goals in the championship which is imo physicly a stronger league. and i dont think many would question that. his mindset is enough to trouble defenses did you not see his return to liverpool??? he still scored goals. if he had been made to be the main striker at the time then i think he would have scored more. and the only reason that he isnt in the prem now is that he is a fitness liability. i'd rather him in the box than some of the clowns in the prem crouch being one of them!
**does anyone agree with my post on the barry transfer? which i posted just up there**
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I personally don't care who we get now. It's July, and Rafa has a clear plan for next season, which includes Barry. As a Liverpool supporter, I can just hope that whatever the manager wants he gets. If it's Barry, then fine with me.
Doesn't seem to be the case acc. to this
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature?id=554031&sec=england&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1&cc=4716
I personally don't care who we get now. It's July, and Rafa has a clear plan for next season, which includes Barry. As a Liverpool supporter, I can just hope that whatever the manager wants he gets. If it's Barry, then fine with me.
Doesn't seem to be the case acc. to this
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature?id=554031&sec=england&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1&cc=4716
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jonnyluvrod
Championship
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I'd be happy if Rafa did this...
KEPT Alonso..
( Xabi is 24 yrs old, still to reach his best and has never let us down. )
BOUGHT Robbie Keane with funds from Crouch, Risse deal etc..
( Robbie can play attacking midfield, wide left and up top. )
LEAVE Gareth Barry at the Villa..
( Sorry Gareth, your hearts set on a Reds move but I'm not convinced that the majority of Reds fans think your an improvement to our squad. )
Wishful thinking maybe?
I'd be happy if Rafa did this...
KEPT Alonso..
( Xabi is 24 yrs old, still to reach his best and has never let us down. )
BOUGHT Robbie Keane with funds from Crouch, Risse deal etc..
( Robbie can play attacking midfield, wide left and up top. )
LEAVE Gareth Barry at the Villa..
( Sorry Gareth, your hearts set on a Reds move but I'm not convinced that the majority of Reds fans think your an improvement to our squad. )
Wishful thinking maybe?
god84
League 1
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but like i said earlier i cant help but think barry is what gerrard wants rather than rafa. everytime barry played against the top4 last season he went missing and i dont think that would be different if he signed for one of the top four (us) do you? i wouldnt mind robbie keane...premiership proven. scores and makes goals. Alonso needs to stay!!!! im callin a S-O-A!!!
but like i said earlier i cant help but think barry is what gerrard wants rather than rafa. everytime barry played against the top4 last season he went missing and i dont think that would be different if he signed for one of the top four (us) do you? i wouldnt mind robbie keane...premiership proven. scores and makes goals. Alonso needs to stay!!!! im callin a S-O-A!!!
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DagsJT
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I'm 99% certain Rafa doesn't give a shit about Gerrard's friends, Rafa isn't the type of manager to make friends.
Also, Gerrard also went missing everytime we played the top teams as well.
I trust Rafa, if he thinks Barry can bring something better to the team than Alonso can offer, I'm happy with that.
I'm 99% certain Rafa doesn't give a shit about Gerrard's friends, Rafa isn't the type of manager to make friends.
Also, Gerrard also went missing everytime we played the top teams as well.
I trust Rafa, if he thinks Barry can bring something better to the team than Alonso can offer, I'm happy with that.
god84
League 1
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nah i still rekon gerrard has had a huge part in this deal. but the one thing im glad about is that rafa isnt being pushed into this stupid 18mil deal. gerrard pretty much goes missing against the top3 every season but its something we have to live with. i just dont think another player in a key part of the team who goes missing on key matches is something 18mil or just generally a transfer, warrents. theres soooo many players liverpool should be looking at. i'd prefer kim kallstrom to barry and i bet you he would be ALOT cheaper. or even Kranjcar...he would be a good signing.
nah i still rekon gerrard has had a huge part in this deal. but the one thing im glad about is that rafa isnt being pushed into this stupid 18mil deal. gerrard pretty much goes missing against the top3 every season but its something we have to live with. i just dont think another player in a key part of the team who goes missing on key matches is something 18mil or just generally a transfer, warrents. theres soooo many players liverpool should be looking at. i'd prefer kim kallstrom to barry and i bet you he would be ALOT cheaper. or even Kranjcar...he would be a good signing.
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Well sorry mate just want to clarify that just in case. I guess you haven't seen what he's done at liverpool (2nd stint)? Okay he didn't play as many games as we like, but the thing is he was very immobile when he was here. He wasn't running fast enough, he wasn't positioning better enough and he wasn't finishing the efforts during his last spell here. I think mostly because he wasn't completely healed to make it a fair go.
I wouldn't bet my money on Fowler scoring 11 goals with only 9 starts for the whole season like Crouch did. Can't agree on everything I guess.
What Barry would bring you cannot quantify now, I HOPE (big hope!) he would bring the best of Gerrard like when he plays with him for England. And I do think Rafa might be able to improve his game more when he comes here. So maybe no improvement .. now, but later? Big big possibility.
Well sorry mate just want to clarify that just in case. I guess you haven't seen what he's done at liverpool (2nd stint)? Okay he didn't play as many games as we like, but the thing is he was very immobile when he was here. He wasn't running fast enough, he wasn't positioning better enough and he wasn't finishing the efforts during his last spell here. I think mostly because he wasn't completely healed to make it a fair go.
I wouldn't bet my money on Fowler scoring 11 goals with only 9 starts for the whole season like Crouch did. Can't agree on everything I guess.
What Barry would bring you cannot quantify now, I HOPE (big hope!) he would bring the best of Gerrard like when he plays with him for England. And I do think Rafa might be able to improve his game more when he comes here. So maybe no improvement .. now, but later? Big big possibility.