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Moan moan moan.

Torres was lucky to stay on the pitch anyway, scuffing the penalty spot before Rooney was going to take the penalty. Funny how it counted against him when he scuffed that chance in the second half. He did his usual performance in trying to win the Prem's drama queen award with Ronaldo having left.

And you can't blame the ref for Gerrard's shit performance along with his supporting act of Insua, Johnson and the rest of the midfield.

The stats show the difference in quality of the sides:

Possession


  • Man Utd 60%
  • Liverpool 40%

Attempts on target


  • Man Utd 5
  • Liverpool 2

Attempts off target


  • Man Utd 5
  • Liverpool 2

Corners


  • Man Utd 1
  • Liverpool 2

Fouls


  • Man Utd 10
  • Liverpool 15
How a side can go from mounting a serious challenge one season to losing its 16th, yes 16th game of the season by March is beyond me.
 
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I didn't blame the ref for the poor performance of our players. I blamed him for giving you lot a penalty that never should have been and for not bothering to react to one of your players petulantly kicking out at our player off the ball.

Not to mention Gary Neville's leap feet-first over Rodriguez's head.

Again though, it'll all be swept under the carpet to keep up the ridiculous pretense that the FA/referees don't favour United.
 
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UJSupanova said:
I didn't blame the ref for the poor performance of our players. I blamed him for giving you lot a penalty that never should have been and for not bothering to react to one of your players petulantly kicking out at our player off the ball.

Not to mention Gary Neville's leap feet-first over Rodriguez's head.

Again though, it'll all be swept under the carpet to keep up the ridiculous pretense that the FA/referees don't favour United.
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UJSupanova said:
Yes of course i've played football, and yes i've played after being ill, but...
Have you ever played at Premier League level? I very much doubt it. Aquilani missed training a few days before the game and was therefore not ready to start. If you are comparing that to us average people then you seriously are an idiot mate, really. If you can't see the difference between elite athletes and the normal person then there's clearly a problem you have.

If you were that big of a fan of Aquilani you'd have read the interview he gave 5 weeks ago where he said he was still playing with pain in his ankle, but we'll ignore that because it makes Benitez look worse.

Seriously, could you be any more blinkered? Aquilani has had one good game at Liverpool, he came on today and hardly touched the ball, but to you he is some sort of messiah.

You're comparing an injury (which Torres had last year) to a stomach virus, which can't be controlled by an injection, if only you understood logic this wouldn't be a problem, but i'll probably be suspended/banned because of your defective thoughts. Congratulations on having such skewed logic.
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Dude, if you are suspended/banned it is because you are disrespectful, I dont agree with you but I treat you with respect.
Well, first of all. Im not comparing my football matches with elite athlethes. But I got to tell you that elite ahtletes can also play ill. I remember last month that Kobe Bryant played three consecutives matches ill. And I am also pretty sure that almost every player in Liverpool have once played a proffesional match ill.
Secondly, I brought Torres case just to show how Rafa involves players that arent fit or havent trained the complete week, if he wants to. Of course, Aquilani couldnt have injectiones for a bug in his stomach, but that lasted him 2 days. On Thursday he was back at training. He wasnt ready to play against Lille, sure, but he was completely able to play against Manchester.
And thirdly, and now talking about Aquilani´s performances. He only started 5 matches for Liverpool and he played really well in all of them. He contributed with 1 goal and 3 assists and he was the man of the match in 2 off those 5 matches. I dont judge the performance of players that just play the last 15 minutes, because it is not fair.
 
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Right, first of all you categorically have no idea of the state of Aquilani's recovery from illness, yet you use assumptions to prove your point. That proves everything.

Kobe BrYant has no bearing on this at all, it's a different sport, and unless you can prove they had the same illness - you're talking shite.

Torres had pain in his leg, an injection cured that pain to enable him to play, Aquilani had an illness - Do you seriously not see how that's different ffs?!
 
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bit shallow to use stats to try and back up ur point :FAIL: kick free is not a pen in other stadiums
 
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Yup, lets forget that Gerrard got off with assaulting another player last week.

And you lot got all the decision go your way at our game at Anfield this season

etc, etc.
 
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bit shallow to use stats to try and back up ur point :FAIL:
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Exactly. If the ref is giving Liverpool fuck all in the way of decisions, then the stats are hardly balanced either as the game completely changed due to an inept referee.

Funny how United fans were saying the ref is dodgy before the match, and favours home teams but did that thing where they predict the opposition will win just to play it safe in case they get beat.

So when they win, suddenly the ref is superb and should be in the WC final or something. I wonder if Gerrard had kicked out at a United player if the United fans would've been up in arms? Hell, they were up in arms with the Brown incident so imagine if he did what Fletcher did today!

Same with Neville's boot on Maxi, if that had been on a United player then it would've been a disgrace.

Rooney constantly having pops at the referee, two-footed tackles with him jumping in the air (similar to Kyrgiakos v Everton, which the United fans said was a red card) but that's all okay because it's a United player.

There was a point towards the end where Rooney had the ball, he knocks it out for a throw ... but gets given the throw himself! He makes a gesture towards the ref as if to say it wasn't Utd's ball but they get the decision, then Rooney turns to his bench with a smirk and a wink. More shitty decisions and even Utd's players knew it.

I just find it amusing that all is well with the game because none of these incidents happened to their team. If it had happened to United and they lost, they'd be saying the same things. But no, Webb is the best ref in England ... right? :ROLL:
 
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don't remember any decisions as blatent as the "penalty" though.

Plus as everyone knows the Gerrard elbow last week was allowed becase the referee saw it, and Michael Brown's a horrible cunt.
 
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I've seen the penalty again and it's not as clear cut as I first thought, it's hard to tell though. Valencia went down quite easily once he got in the box but you can't really tell how much of the fall was 'diving' and how much was from Mascherano pulling his shirt/arm and brushing his legs.

At the end of the day all teams get soft penalties, you can say it was 'never a pen' but neither was the one in the 2005 CL final which had far greater ramifications for you lot. I'd be more concerned about the total lack of interest Gerrard showed and how you barely created a chance apart from the goal where we fell asleep in the first five minutes.

There was nothing wrong with Neville's challenge, he took the ball cleanly and Maxi's head was low. I haven't seen the Fletcher/Kuyt incident again yet so can't comment on that but it seemed typical of a heated game, like any derby. It didn't seem petulant, Fletcher seemed genuinely pissed off about something Kuyt did but like I said I haven't seen it properly in decent quality.

And I don't think what SAF said had anything to do with Webb, like I said before he's just not very good. Nobody has said he's the best ref in the world Dags, your just being facetious and you know it. Webb wasn't great but but not half as bad as you're making out. I watched SAF's press conference, the journo asked him what he thought about Gerrard not being banned and he just criticised the disciplinary process at the FA, nothing to do with the referees and was quite matter of fact about it, no big rant like it was portrayed in the press.

At the end of the day it's sad that we're talking about a ref's performance considering how bad you lot were when there's far more interesting talking points like Vidic putting to bed the thing about Torres owning him, Gerrard's disappearing act, how you lot should move forward etc etc etc.
 
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:LMAO: Stop being so bitter lads, seriously both teams had decisions go their way and others should have probably been punished we could go on about it all day. It was definitely a penalty though.
 
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Yep, I see the United fans are still spending more time in here than their own thread as well.

Edit: In reply to Abou's post he deleted. Cheers, mate :TU: :ROLL:

If you don't like reading my posts, don't come in here or block me. Simple, no need to get personal eh?
 
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Jumbo_ said:
I've seen the penalty again and it's not as clear cut as I first thought, it's hard to tell though. Valencia went down quite easily once he got in the box but you can't really tell how much of the fall was 'diving' and how much was from Mascherano pulling his shirt/arm and brushing his legs.

At the end of the day all teams get soft penalties, you can say it was 'never a pen' but neither was the one in the 2005 CL final which had far greater ramifications for you lot. I'd be more concerned about the total lack of interest Gerrard showed and how you barely created a chance apart from the goal where we fell asleep in the first five minutes.

There was nothing wrong with Neville's challenge, he took the ball cleanly and Maxi's head was low. I haven't seen the Fletcher/Kuyt incident again yet so can't comment on that but it seemed typical of a heated game, like any derby. It didn't seem petulant, Fletcher seemed genuinely pissed off about something Kuyt did but like I said I haven't seen it properly in decent quality.

And I don't think what SAF said had anything to do with Webb, like I said before he's just not very good. Nobody has said he's the best ref in the world Dags, your just being facetious and you know it. Webb wasn't great but but not half as bad as you're making out. I watched SAF's press conference, the journo asked him what he thought about Gerrard not being banned and he just criticised the disciplinary process at the FA, nothing to do with the referees and was quite matter of fact about it, no big rant like it was portrayed in the press.

At the end of the day it's sad that we're talking about a ref's performance considering how bad you lot were when there's far more interesting talking points like Vidic putting to bed the thing about Torres owning him, Gerrard's disappearing act, how you lot should move forward etc etc etc.
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The frustrating thing for me mate is that the referee had more of a say in the game than certain players.

I'm afraid i can't agree on the penalty, yes Mascherano fouled him but it was clearly outside the box. As for the 2005 one, Gerrard has dived plenty of times but i genuinely think he was fouled for that one, if you were to mention the Atletico one from last season i'd agree with you, but the Istanbul penalty was a foul imo.

The Fletcher thing, yes i'd like to see more of that kind of aggression in the big games, but if Beckham can get sent off for his kick out against Argentina, and Scholes can get sent off for his gay punch at Alonso then this was definitely a red card for me. The Neville one woudln't have been so bad had the referee not given so many soft free kicks against us, that was at least 10 times worse than most of the free kicks we conceded.

Ferguson said that Liverpool always get the decisions "they're lucky like that", which is clearly not true :LOL:

We all knew Howard Webb wasn't strong enough for this game, but i hoped he wouldn't have such a big impact on it.
 
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DagsJT said:
Yep, I see the United fans are still spending more time in here than their own thread as well.
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That's as bad as pulling the racism card and as gay as pulling the gay card.

Should be ashamed of yourself, Dags.
 
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Aboutreika18 said:
That's as bad as pulling the racism card and as gay as pulling the gay card.

Should be ashamed of yourself, Dags.
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What are you on about now? :CONF:

I really don't know why I bother visiting this thread, I might as well go to Red Cafe or whatever it's called.
 
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DagsJT said:
What are you on about now? :CONF:

I really don't know why I bother visiting this thread, I might as well go to Red Cafe or whatever it's called.
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You might as well just sit in a room talking to yourself because you dont want to hear any conflicting opinions or anyone disagreeing with your moaning, it's the same every time.

UJS is having a discussion not being a bitch about it.
 
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