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I had it in the gamepass homepage. with madden to try the trial.
Or just search for it. Its heavily advertised.
FIFA 22 Discussion (Console Versions)
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I had it in the gamepass homepage. with madden to try the trial.
Or just search for it. Its heavily advertised.
Topaz
Programmer/TheAwesomeGem
Has there been any day 1 patch guys?
Link doesn't work @PRO_TOO , help!all you need, hitty!
https://forums.operationsports.com/...s/992710-fifa-22-os-community-sliders-18.html
currently plays a damn fine game! I could talk and play and loose and talk and dribble and loose the ball…
Sorry, this is an incredibly general and basic question so if you feel it's going to distract from the general discussion please feel free to ignore it. I've never really played FIFA, as a purely offline game mode player, I tried years ago and just couldn't get used to the feel of the game or get away with what felt like wholly inferior AI and player individuality. I'm asking this now, in part due to a eFootball disaster induced willingness to give FIFA another go and your reference there to the disregarding of AI and AI individuality piquing my interest. So, can I just confirm that you are saying that these aspects are decent in FIFA 22? In terms of standards I'm holding it up to I'm harking back (I know nostalgia is rarely good for a barometer) to what I consider the golden age, particularly of player individuality, of PES 3 to 6.Big chunk of Evo users split into two groups - pes crowd and fifa crowd.
Usually it means seeing all the flaws in one, while making up excuses for the other.
If you are on the fence and play both - most of the time you'll end up arguing with both.
Both games went downhill from 16/17 onwards, disregarding AI and focusing purely on User Vs User gameplay.
AI was dumbed down, AI individuality was forgotten, all AI teams started playing using the same, simplified code and patterns.
And while Pes is basically dead as a Dodo now - Fifa, after dreadful '21, made a lot of changes and is heading in good direction. Its not perfect, by any means, but comparing to F21 its a huge improvement. And comparing to eFootball... well...
I know you both prefer Pes21.
Heavily modded, I shall add, coz base version is fucking dreadful. Quite often both of you forget that little detail when arguing with people how amazing this game is.
We could spend another week here discussing which one do we think represent football better and at the end of the day we will be at the same place that we started.
I have played few matches with Chris on Full Manual, slow speed and it was the most enjoyable blend of fun and sim I have ever experienced online.
It was even better than F16 online, as F16 had to be tweaked with sliders and we couldnt do that online.
Here - even default sliders were really nice to play.
So lets just agree to disagree and end this conversation.
Coming from primarily PES over the last few years I've yet to see a super laser pass in fifa 22...saying that every football game that wants to do well has to try and satisfy both crowds as in offline and online and with that will be trade offs..I think FIFA22 gets the balance pretty well implemented
Hatrickhero
Championship
- 8 March 2021
i noticed game looks too colorful on ps5, to the level u can say it s cartoonish
- Staff
- #2,917
Nope. Thankfully...
Hyper motion is the business. Really cutting edge. Some Brazilian no mark just scored a half volley against me and it was beautiful. The action of the ball obviously determined what he was gonna do with it in the time he had and as it sat up he hit this lovely mid height dipping volley. Never seen anything like it and it was so lifelike. I haven’t seen a sliver of a similar goal scored yet, every one has been unique. I’ve even seen goals - I scored one with jota where he just blasted it from 15 yards and it was too powerful for the keeper who practically had his hands pushed back.
incredible.
my only gripes is it’s a little skatey, and a bit hectic. Gonna play with sliders to just tone it down a little but keep most of the sliders default as the variety is off the charts.
romagnoli
Misses Retri
- 7 August 2004
@vialli82
Definitely try @Matt10 ’s sliders. It slows the game down a LOT. I was wary of buying the game after the trial but I typed in the sliders and was amazed how much more robust and grounded it made the play - I hate how vanilla FIFA makes the game too vague and uncontrolled, you move like one of those flies that just goes round and round in the middle of the living room. With the speed of the game reduced it feels a lot easier to control your positioning, and the tighter marking cuts down some of the passivity around passes into the striker.
Of the two titles, FIFA comfortably represents passing accuracy and individuality better. It has done for years because PES stopped trying to represent that sort of thing, especially in short passing and with first touches.
But it’s all about perception, and familiarity. If you’ve played PES for years then it’s entirely plausible that you can get perceive tiny nuances in individuality, or you will just accept that certain players have certain animations and that’s the extent of their differences. And if you suddenly play FIFA then everything is so different (and unpleasant if you hate vanilla FIFA) that it’s hard to see differences between players when every single player is just 100% different to how your perceptions are calibrated.
IMO both games were awful last year, and the year before, and the year before that. Maybe FIFA 22 will turn out the same once I’ve stuck with it and certain things become unavoidable. But right now, this (offline, Matt’s sliders) is the closest I remember FIFA being to getting aspects of football right in a long time. I think it’s annoying how many buttons you have to press to do basic things, and I find the tactics frustratingly literal at times.
But I can have Matic tuck into a back 3, Sancho pull wide with VDB underlapping and the RB tucking in, with Pogba dropping into midfield from LW and Shaw holding the width out there. And I find I need different kinds of build up against different teams, where I don’t want Matic dropping into the back line and I need the fullbacks helping me get the ball out of my half. I might be overthinking it all, but that’s my illusion just as the idea that PES still has individuality is others’ illusion. And that’s fine.
Definitely try @Matt10 ’s sliders. It slows the game down a LOT. I was wary of buying the game after the trial but I typed in the sliders and was amazed how much more robust and grounded it made the play - I hate how vanilla FIFA makes the game too vague and uncontrolled, you move like one of those flies that just goes round and round in the middle of the living room. With the speed of the game reduced it feels a lot easier to control your positioning, and the tighter marking cuts down some of the passivity around passes into the striker.
Of the two titles, FIFA comfortably represents passing accuracy and individuality better. It has done for years because PES stopped trying to represent that sort of thing, especially in short passing and with first touches.
But it’s all about perception, and familiarity. If you’ve played PES for years then it’s entirely plausible that you can get perceive tiny nuances in individuality, or you will just accept that certain players have certain animations and that’s the extent of their differences. And if you suddenly play FIFA then everything is so different (and unpleasant if you hate vanilla FIFA) that it’s hard to see differences between players when every single player is just 100% different to how your perceptions are calibrated.
IMO both games were awful last year, and the year before, and the year before that. Maybe FIFA 22 will turn out the same once I’ve stuck with it and certain things become unavoidable. But right now, this (offline, Matt’s sliders) is the closest I remember FIFA being to getting aspects of football right in a long time. I think it’s annoying how many buttons you have to press to do basic things, and I find the tactics frustratingly literal at times.
But I can have Matic tuck into a back 3, Sancho pull wide with VDB underlapping and the RB tucking in, with Pogba dropping into midfield from LW and Shaw holding the width out there. And I find I need different kinds of build up against different teams, where I don’t want Matic dropping into the back line and I need the fullbacks helping me get the ball out of my half. I might be overthinking it all, but that’s my illusion just as the idea that PES still has individuality is others’ illusion. And that’s fine.
Try it. If you are on next gen hyper motion is a game changer for player id.
also playing manual is a challenge
I was waiting on eFootball to see if I would invest in a PS5 (I only play football games). I now need to try and establish whether FIFA22 is potentially worth the same outlay.
Filippo-Inzaghi
Championship
Are transfers updated also?
TommyPes87
Non-League
- 5 August 2021
Fifa 22 on last gen is really damn good so I wonder just how much better the PS5 / Series X version can be. I noticed the last gen version has a lot of the gameplay improvements too: more realistic footplanting / inertia / weight, better more zippy passing and crossing and switching the play, impressive keepers...
- Staff
- #2,924
IMO - yes they are.
I only had a discussion the other day on "Why do I find Fifa22 that enjoyable?"
There are a lot of things that I look for in football games and this Fifa still lacks some of them.
Fouls would be great example. Normally - to me - game without fouls is an instant turn off. A gamebreaker. Here - Im not getting nearly enough fouls that Id like to.
Its actually quite bizarre, because normally, when a game has issues with fouls, its me who never gets them.
In here I do get fouls (not nearly enough mind you), but I never give them away.
In some matches I had 5/6 free kicks, while 0 for AI. Which is weird.
Anyway - ball physics next. Its really improved coming from 22. Some of the passes and shot are incredible.
But, like someone noticed above, sometimes there are these random rocket passes out of nowhere.
Sliders and full manual reduces the issue to almost none existent, but it still happens.
Wish there was less sliding and more inertia, wish there was more cards, wish players were off-form more often, rather than just receiving boosts.
So why do I like this so much? Its because of AI.
AI is really being overlooked in football games these days. In here they are really varied and unpredictable. They dribble, shoot from distance, pass smart, hold the ball, defend when winning, press when losing. Its the AI that makes this game. Its just fun to play against.
This also gives me hope. Even if they bring some changes for online players, even if they speed the game up... there's no reason really to touch the AI, coz this is purely for offline. So I hope that this game will stay decent, because CORE AI is good.
That's what happens when you make full use of the latest processing capacity, rather than actually regressing in order to make it work on a god damn telephone.
Onimusha78
Championship
- 4 September 2013
Did this get a day one patch in the end? I'm not buying this until they've fixed that damn indicator lol
Review
Premier League
- 7 October 2012
Are you on PS4 or PS5?
davidsilva21
Conference
- 8 February 2020
Hey all, I posted this in the PC section but I thought I would post it here too!
PC/PS4 (current gen) vs Stadia Version (Next Gen)
Current gen
The PC version is an improved version of 21. I feel that the AI is better, the graphics are still very nice, and the features are pretty similar to the next gen version, despite being current gen. I have used some very nice sliders from Anth James, and have found each game to feel natural, organic, and just lots of fun. Playing the speed on slow, and on world class I find it to be a good challenge each game.
Stadia -
At first glance, I noticed while the resolution is good, it is not as clear as the PC version in motion, as it is streaming. If you do have a 4K supported PC/Monitor, it would look better. I just had issues with quality despite having good internet, and being connected to ethernet. The game was responsive, but just not as clear in motion.
The additions are nice. The animations are a bit smoother, and graphics are a tad better.
Is it worth it over the PC version? Not so sure. Once mods are released for turf, I honestly think the PC version is still a very good option. The Stadia version is nice, but just the occasional blurriness really brings the experience down. I do notice the gameplay improvements, but it is not as eye opening as I thought it would be.
Here are some pictures to compare.
Current Gen
Nex gen
Current Gen
Next gen
Current Gen
Next gen
PC/PS4 (current gen) vs Stadia Version (Next Gen)
Current gen
The PC version is an improved version of 21. I feel that the AI is better, the graphics are still very nice, and the features are pretty similar to the next gen version, despite being current gen. I have used some very nice sliders from Anth James, and have found each game to feel natural, organic, and just lots of fun. Playing the speed on slow, and on world class I find it to be a good challenge each game.
Stadia -
At first glance, I noticed while the resolution is good, it is not as clear as the PC version in motion, as it is streaming. If you do have a 4K supported PC/Monitor, it would look better. I just had issues with quality despite having good internet, and being connected to ethernet. The game was responsive, but just not as clear in motion.
The additions are nice. The animations are a bit smoother, and graphics are a tad better.
Is it worth it over the PC version? Not so sure. Once mods are released for turf, I honestly think the PC version is still a very good option. The Stadia version is nice, but just the occasional blurriness really brings the experience down. I do notice the gameplay improvements, but it is not as eye opening as I thought it would be.
Here are some pictures to compare.
Current Gen
Nex gen
Current Gen
Next gen
Current Gen
Next gen
PRO_TOO
Team Heffernan
what I wanna say... but don’t have the English language knowledge for. thanks, @Redhat !Despite my grievances with the game (some of which I've rectified by learning to work around them), there's two elements that FIFA 22 offers that's extremely important to me as a primarily Career Mode player; challenge and variety. Now, the CPU does tend to favor shots from the corner of the six-yard box along with their postage stamp finishes, but their patterns of play are varied enough where it keeps me on my toes. They're a threat even if it's a tad over-the-top at times. Like @HyperSports and others have said, for once you can actually notice the gulf in class between opponents.
I was playing a slew of kick-off matches last night as United and against the likes of Leicester, it was fast, frantic, Vardy was a threat, they were punishing. Experimented by playing Barnsley and lo and behold, I dominated the match. They were sloppy (do note that I play with increased pass error) and naturally lacked individual brilliance, but they still managed create several clear-cut chances. Barnsley could have easily put a few past me if they were more clinical, but I felt like I had a strangle-hold on the match even though it was 0-0 for the majority of the match. I reiterate that I was in control, but it didn't end 7-0. That in and of itself is a beautiful thing.
In terms of when I have the ball, well, it offers variety in spades in terms of chance creation, penalty area action, a variety of passes and shot techniques, keeper animations (which goes hand-in-hand with shot/goal satisfaction which is top-notch). FIFA has had the superior shooting for eons now, so this isn't a surprise. I don't know how often people have mentioned the physicality, but there are moments where it's truly lifelike in terms of how players interact with each other during aerial battles (though, I did encounter a bug where one of my players jumped about 10 feet in the air which gave me a good laugh), 50-50s, or challenges in general. Some real Rush Football-esque shit at times, I kid you not. Of course, when juxtaposed with twitchy, Hypermotion skating that can occur, the contrast can be jarring.
I wasn't in the correct head space to accept FIFA for what it is which is a funny ol' thing considering I've played infinitely more FIFA over the past 13-years or so than I have PES. It was the mid 90s when I first played the series and have played every single iteration, have put thousands upon thousands of hours in practically every single game mode. I know what FIFA is all about and what to expect and more importantly, its limitations. The stubborn side of me was so bogged down in the fact that it wasn't exactly how I wanted it to be, it was detracting from my experience. I didn't even have heightened expectations ahead of the release, but that was still my state of mind. Not to get all spiritual or philosophical and this is more directed towards myself, but there are times where I just need to "let-go." Unfortunately, I'm the type of person that tends to hyper-analyze everything so that can be difficult.
I digress. It's fun, varied, challenging, has some amazing animations mixed with some downright peculiar ones, and I believe it will offer longevity for offline players if you can live with the negatives (some can't and that's understandable since they are very much in your face). For the 1,000th time, it needs more fouls and to solve that, defenders need to lunge-in and attempt more tackles.
- Staff
- #2,930
Xbox S
papinho81
Champions League
How do you find it in terms of graphic fidelity? I ve seen on the net people complaining about graphics being of lower quality than a PS4pro.
I am on the verge of getting a next gen console to play this next gen FIFA, but considering my experience with this fifa on PC, I am not sure if I want to put a full pot of money and get a PS5 (Xbox one are impossible to find here).
Not for one game but consider the platform. I’m on Xbox series x but love Microsoft flight simulator and a few other staple titles.
You could go the Google Stadia route (since it's the PS5/XSX version) if you have fast/reliable internet. I'm still going to buy it for PS5 for preservation's sake in case of patches, but it's a completely adequate alternative. This is what the Stadia version looks like.
Never mind the fact that the keeper should have probably saved this (should have tried to save it with his right hand perhaps, but I'm no keeper) and that Modric's hair is jet black? Obviously not as clean as it looks on my PS5/4K TV, but like I said, works just fine.
Just a suggestion, but maybe the threads should be categorized by console generation as opposed to platform? PS5, XSX, Stadia and PS4, Xbox One? Err, then it would be a bit messy for the PC players to discuss mods. Hmm. It can be difficult to discern whether or not they're talking about the old-gen or next-gen version of the game unless it's explicitly stated.
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SP83
League 1
- 9 October 2012
Just can't get into this.
It's still missing 'something'. The presentation is amazing, but on the field it just don't play as great. The AI seems to overplay a lot of the time, so many passes when someone should just be shooting.
The tactics seem to have little baring on how the players play. I notice when attacking a lack of options, a lot of the time the striker is up against a 4 defenders and you have to 'wait' for your team to catch up.
I still really enjoy PES21, so I've saved myself £60 cos' after 3 games of FIFA tonight, I went back on PES and played at least 7 matches.
Maybe next gen would offer a different scenario but I ain't forking out £500+ at the moment.
It's still missing 'something'. The presentation is amazing, but on the field it just don't play as great. The AI seems to overplay a lot of the time, so many passes when someone should just be shooting.
The tactics seem to have little baring on how the players play. I notice when attacking a lack of options, a lot of the time the striker is up against a 4 defenders and you have to 'wait' for your team to catch up.
I still really enjoy PES21, so I've saved myself £60 cos' after 3 games of FIFA tonight, I went back on PES and played at least 7 matches.
Maybe next gen would offer a different scenario but I ain't forking out £500+ at the moment.
papinho81
Champions League
Thanks. Unfortunately, I live in a lovely place, but the internet connection is not really a strength of the place.
Reminds me of the last days at WENB.
My recent activity on this board consisted of
a) encouraging Saturator to post some gameplay vids
b) looking forward to slider experiments
c) reporting some elements that are gamebreaking to me
d) explaining why animations are more than just a visual thing
If this makes you fall apart in a discussion forum, i think i can't help you.
PRO_TOO
Team Heffernan
Yeah, since forever I don’t know what the custom sliders are doing. When I play broadcast I wish I could affect the camera with them but it ain’t working for years.
FIFA 16 has the camera moving for a few millimeters, That’s it.
What is your camera setting?
It might be doable for you. Stadia offers a free month of Stadia Pro (at least in NA) which will give you access to select titles. That way, you could get a general idea for how games will run on your connection. Might be worth a look.