FIFA 22 Discussion (Console Versions)

[vialli82]

New helps, but not in defence it seems. I already don't like at all what became Tactical Defending, using it is creating space for attacker more than blocking him.
Well i never liked it in terms of feeling, but at least in the past it was essential and i gotted used to it from FIFA 12 to 16. Now, it's practically useless, the reason? No idea.

On Fifa 20, i tackled like a fool, standing and sliding a lot. It worked but it was super forced and unnatural, not footballistic to tacle like a Roy Keane when there's no danger just to get the ball.

 

[saturator]

New helps, but not in defence it seems. I already don't like at all what became Tactical Defending, using it is creating space for attacker more than blocking him.
Well i never liked it in terms of feeling, but at least in the past it was essential and i gotted used to it from FIFA 12 to 16. Now, it's practically useless, the reason? No idea.

On Fifa 20, i tackled like a fool, standing and sliding a lot. It worked but it was super forced and unnatural, not footballistic to tacle like a Roy Keane when there's no danger just to get the ball.

You always can disable Tactical defending and using classic defence. I prefer Tactical defending with manual settings, but it's only my choice.
Since FIFA 20, it's harder to defense and I like it, because it's more manual. You have to switch quickly to make a clean tackle. But this year (FIFA 22 beta), defenders are less dumb not like in FIFA 21.

FIFA 22 for FUMA players is really great, you have more controls on everything on the pitch. Before on air duels, you were always well placed, now you need to move your player manually. Same thing for headers, harder to master.

 

[Anderson_PES]

Thanks for sharing your impressions of the beta Saturator. Just hope they keep improving the AI until release and not dumb it down again.

 

[Pistol90]

I dont hope any improving i final version, maybe pace of game.

I just wanna see somebody put game speed slow and some most realistic slider options he can find/make. And play one normal game. Than i will decide to buy or not(probably will)

 

[ultra1312]

I think that looks decent, much better than previous FIFA's, thought I've not played in about 6 years

Hopefully it stays slower, adds more weight to the ball, and the single player is decent, I think I am going to try it for ps5 this year, so dissappinted in what efootball looks to be offering

 

[K1NG94]

The good thing about Fifa is the price barely drops through its lifecycle. If you don't like it, just sell it.

 

[vialli82]

You always can disable Tactical defending and using classic defence. I prefer Tactical defending with manual settings, but it's only my choice.
Since FIFA 20, it's harder to defense and I like it, because it's more manual. You have to switch quickly to make a clean tackle. But this year (FIFA 22 beta), defenders are less dumb not like in FIFA 21.

FIFA 22 for FUMA players is really great, you have more controls on everything on the pitch. Before on air duels, you were always well placed, now you need to move your player manually. Same thing for headers, harder to master.

Thanks, but i tried Legacy defending, i couldn't even saw the pressing. It was even more dangerous.
No exageration : from moments i didn't know if the player were pressing or not, as they're doing it super slowly.

If you play with small or average team, the players press less and less, for finally not pressing at all when they're a bit tired.
It was like an open bar for attacker, sincerely i feel by far less in danger with Tactical Defending.
Well since Tactical Defending appeared, Legacy defending were decreased a lot in effectiveness. It's kinda normal to push users to play with T.D. instead of Legacy.
I'm not a newbie to Fifa at all lol, not at all, i won divisions (well, i didn't even know you could've buy more matches or for example a 3 points or a draw in the catalog... Before Fifa 16 hahahha), cup, etc. so those kind of things i know how it works.

But thanks for taking your time to sharing dude. Then you share your own impression and objectivity doesn't exist and we all got very different taste or vision of "realism/simulation" but also "action football and fun" (i hate calling it "arcade". It's completely wrong) so forget about it and if you like stuff don't hesitate.

Whatever, i will buy it practically for sure. But in occasion or in reduction, months later than the release. Not 60 or even 50 euros.
Not pressed at all to play it.

 

[saturator]

Thanks for sharing your impressions of the beta Saturator. Just hope they keep improving the AI until release and not dumb it down again.

You're welcome.
Yes I hope so they will improve the game.
On FIFA 21 nextgen, I have this kind of matches :

 

[nikolapfc89]

After BETA, I tried yesterday FIFA 21 (I am playing on XSS) and wow it feels so different. I mean FIFA 21 was bad so much after 22 BETA.

BETA was not perfect and definitely need to be much much more slower. But It was fun. Also, I didn't like update. BETA was better for me before that update.
GK was better and sometimes I had great random goals and moments (GK tried to save but the ball was good and went from GK into net so like in real life).

 

[Fukaru]

I've no idea. I havent played any Fifa on normal speed since Slow Speed was introduced. Normal speed looks much more broken to me.

How can you know normal speed is broken when you never played the game on normal speed? Playing the game is different from watching videos.

 

[Dr Force]

Does anyone here play games including Fifa on a QED TV. I have a 65” OLED in my man cave but that’s going to be moved to the lounge do upgrading to 75” in the games room…but interested of QED is a good choice?

 

[nikolapfc89]

Also, I really love the new goal net sound they've done in BETA. It's different depending on net tension.

If it's tight net tension then you can hear louder but also depending on how the ball strikes the net fast or slower. If it's fast and hard shot sound is like Dortmund Westfalen, where you can hear iron/metal sound.

It sounds fantastic and gives you joy for scoring goals.

 

[Dr Force]

Also, I really love the new goal net sound they've done in BETA. It's different depending on net tension.

If it's tight net tension then you can hear louder but also depending on how the ball strikes the net fast or slower. If it's fast and hard shot sound is like Dortmund Westfalen, where you can hear iron/metal sound.

It sounds fantastic and gives you joy for scoring goals.

Record it 😀

 

[nikolapfc89]

Record it 😀

Well BETA ended so I cant. But it's like this, exactly the same.

 

[Emroth]

How can you know normal speed is broken when you never played the game on normal speed? Playing the game is different from watching videos.

Demo never had speed setting, so yeah - i did play on normal speed. Same with online. Also just one speed setting.
What I meant was - I never played Career Mode or any other mode on normal IF I had a choice to change it.
See, I like football, not pinball.

 

[Chris Davies]

Also, I didn't like update. BETA was better for me before that update.
GK was better and sometimes I had great random goals and moments (GK tried to save but the ball was good and went from GK into net so like in real life).

For me, the beta update absolutely killed the goalkeepers.

They were the most organic thing about the game BY FAR in the original beta. It was the one thing that really impressed me.

But they had so many complaints about them being too human and letting too many goals in, not being able to parry shots out of play etc...

When the beta update hit, I couldn't see any difference between the old keepers and the new ones.

Just goes to show how they will never stick to their vision if it means FUT players will get mad.

 

[saturator]

Yes GK were perfect before the update, near post goals were harder to score. What a shame!

 

[Chris Davies]

I know this isn't a particularly good example, but it's all I had recorded before the update came along.

The keepers, pre-update, really flailed at balls that were almost beyond their reach, and it resulted in the ball going all over the place.

After the update, this wouldn't happen.

 

[saturator]

I have noticed exactly the same. Fut community has always the last word.

 

[vialli82]

For me, the beta update absolutely killed the goalkeepers.

They were the most organic thing about the game BY FAR in the original beta. It was the one thing that really impressed me.

But they had so many complaints about them being too human and letting too many goals in, not being able to parry shots out of play etc...

When the beta update hit, I couldn't see any difference between the old keepers and the new ones.

Just goes to show how they will never stick to their vision if it means FUT players will get mad.

The thing is :
-The decrease GK effectiveness
-The balance is now on favor to attack, shooting especially
-They don't do anything to restore that balance, or not as much.

That's the issue. I've readed defenders were much agressive etc., but here we're talking shot vs GK. So simply, shooting precision would be decreased in the same way they decreased GK to makes them more humans.

... But well from what i saw about score, it was always big ones. Didn't saw a 1-1 or a score with less goals. (I won't say 0-0, god it's something i didn't saw in a Fifa since... I don't ever remember)

 

[Rip-IssPesFifa]

So the latest build is super fast?

Fuck sake EA, they never learn ☹️

Thats a real shame. The beta was fine. 😪 Although i kinda guessed EA would fuck it up. 😭

Edit: Is the beta still going and they are updating? I thought it finsihed on the 2nd with the demo coming on 15th?

 

[shilts]

EVERY YEAR, EA's marketing say they have new, realistic features.
EVERY YEAR, they release a beta that shows they might be trying a little bit to head in that direction.
EVERY YEAR, the FUT crowd complain.
EVERY YEAR, it reverts to the same old gameplay.
EVERY YEAR, EA know this.
EVERY YEAR, EA play us.
It's in the game 🤣🤣🤣

 

[Chris Davies]

Edit: Is the beta still going and they are updating? I thought it finsihed on the 2nd with the demo coming on 15th?

The beta ended last week. The update was released a week or so before that.

There will be no demo this year, that was announced last week. You'd imagine the main reason is so that, if you want to try it early, you have to buy an EA Play subscription (or an Xbox Game Pass subscription). They have monetised demos. Why give you something for free if you'll pay $5 for it?

I imagine that the other reason is that a demo would put people off buying the game, let's be honest.

FUT players will try it, but it's offline-only, so they'll hate it immediately AND say it's too slow (being used to playing with FUT teams with 99+ players in every slot, boosted x2 via "chemistry"). Career guys will play it and go "wow, defending still doesn't exist huh" - especially with demos having no sliders.

They're much more likely to get us to buy the game if all we've seen is a video. You trick yourself into seeing what you want to see.

I know for a fact if I hadn't played the beta, I'd be salivating over some of the slower-looking videos, and overlooking every dumb bit of AI and every ice-skater masquerading as a footballer. I am my own worst enemy in that regard.

 

[Pistol90]

I cant understand FUT ... do those people care 1% about game called football (or soccer) ... if they just wanna compete, dont they have better options (DOTa, Call of Duty etc) ... they can even make money on some of those.

I cant understand todays world at all. I mean, at the end, someone pays those hundreds of dollars for Messi card at the end -- you need to go to a job and do things (you probably hate) for that s**t ... unfu*****g beliveble.

 

[hitmanuk]

Are there any offline players who have played the beta still buying it ? I have this inner battle every year and now that pes is no more it's either this or nothing

 

[Chris Davies]

I cant understand FUT ... do those people care 1% about game called football (or soccer) ...

Not really. FUT is just a dumbed-down CoD with a ball. A "twitch shooter" but with heavy auto-aiming, Street Fighter combos and pay-to-win options.

It feels to me like FIFA is designed as an alternative to Fortnite as a priority. You lose on Fortnite, get upset, and switch to FIFA cos your mates play it and you have a Barcelona shirt (despite living in Halifax and only being able to name one EX player, but your parents won't buy you a PSG shirt until Christmas).

Every year I'm fooled by their talk of "more realism". I hate myself for it. But they shouldn't be proud of themselves either...

 

[saturator]

Yes it's very sad and Chris have said everything.
If i haven't played the beta, and only view some videos. I will think that it's FIFA 21 bis with a better ball physics. That's all.

EA didn't market real slow gameplay, with inertia, midfield battles, AI who makes clever things. We only saw dumb GK who can't well positionned on a simple long finesse shot everytime.
If now I will watch one on my videos on the beta, i'll say it's a f*****g fake mate because no public videos of FIFA 22 looks like real football. None. It's very sad for virtual football players

 

[saturator]

Are there any offline players who have played the beta still buying it ? I have this inner battle every year and now that pes is no more it's either this or nothing

I will and I hope retail game will be like the beta with GK before the update.
With sliders of course because on vanilla, it's a crappy game!

 

[ultra1312]

I've not played FIFA for years, what sliders do they include? And do they make a difference to single player? I am finished with online I think, don't like it for FIFA or pes, every match is the same with speed demons

 

[hitmanuk]

I've not played FIFA for years, what sliders do they include? And do they make a difference to single player? I am finished with online I think, don't like it for FIFA or pes, every match is the same with speed demons

There's quite a lot of sliders , the watch out is you make one thing better and two things worse