FIFA 22 Discussion (Console Versions)

To be fair, that moment looks absolutely awesome. You can see the potential.

Which is why it's excruciating - that a single change, a gameplay switch to stop the AI making itself defensively passive for the sake of online play - would fix so many of the problems I have (ease of chance creation, lack of fouls etc.).

I was going to put "boring games" on that list - because, when every three passes you've got a shooting opportunity, there's no thought involved, with 30+ shots per game.

...but I guess their reply would be, "how can a 30+ shots game be boring?!" with no understanding of what we're saying...
 
Haven't seen any physicality in clips here.
Is it bumper cars physicality again ,players just bouncing off each others instead of being tackled and falling down.
 
Chris Davies said:
To be fair, that moment looks absolutely awesome. You can see the potential.

Which is why it's excruciating - that a single change, a gameplay switch to stop the AI making itself defensively passive for the sake of online play - would fix so many of the problems I have (ease of chance creation, lack of fouls etc.).

I was going to put "boring games" on that list - because, when every three passes you've got a shooting opportunity, there's no thought involved, with 30+ shots per game.

...but I guess their reply would be, "how can a 30+ shots game be boring?!" with no understanding of what we're saying...
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that moment looks like real world counter attack and I really like it!
all other stuff you said is absolutely right. I think ea will never release real simulation of football even we know that with few changes they can achieve that but they won't! they need football game in literral meaning of the word "GAME". I will play simulation of football all day long, you also, other community members also but how many are we? Kids today want to score goals and feel like they are kings, whole psychology is here why game is playing like that, nothing is put there accidently. I guess we have no choice but appreciate things like this counter attack and find more things like that and enjoy the game as is.
Me personally tried more and more to learn how to defend in fifa 21 and even bow I feel cheap goals but I learn. Every game has positive stuff in it, that should encourafe us to enjoy it Can't judge the game from beta videos, I will hold my judgement before I play it by my self but there are positives for sure in carrer mode that could keep me playing it.
 
rockstrongo said:
Haven't seen any physicality in clips here.
Is it bumper cars physicality again ,players just bouncing off each others instead of being tackled and falling down.
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I find it's near impossible to get near the AI just to your team having such bad positional sense and whenever you get near them they pass it to someone in plenty of space and its a case of repeating the process over and over again.
 
Rip-IssPesFifa said:
I find it's near impossible to get near the AI just to your team having such bad positional sense and whenever you get near them they pass it to someone in plenty of space and its a case of repeating the process over and over again.
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That's how I feel playing 21 , especially on a low camera.
Sounds awful buddy.
Guess this will be a no go
 
What they call "realistic" isn't the gameplay or neither physicallity, or positionning, but the TV representation and all you can do in the game like in real life.
A game could be realist but offensive oriented. Players lookalike, commentators seeming real, goals seems real (even if there's 8 by game)
In fact, it seems that simulation/realism, and i talk for both games, aren't understood like it should be, is not the "realism" we all search in a football game.

It's the number of things in game which makes the game so called realistic and like in real life, you got this and this and also that.
 
Chris Davies said:
To be fair, that moment looks absolutely awesome. You can see the potential.
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Are you saying it for real? It looks absolutely normal to me. It's logic, not awesome, but well after all we saw before, i may understand what you mean.
Btw that kind of action will repeat again and again until goals will be up to 2 then 3, then 4 etc.
 
It's too late, even if it's bad it's an addiction to certain game mode, to win on division or FUT or whatever.
Some who erased the application will stop some months or if they got the courage they won't buy it... But if the price drop they will, And when a new version will came, they will buy it as they feels there something missing. Like i've done with FIFA 19, i re-selled it after 2 weeks.

But i've buy FIFA 20, i just wanted to gives a chance again. Now i'm clean after a "withdraw", well who were done naturally because i just can't stand the game in that state. And FIFA 22 is on the same state... But even worste to me in terms of gameplay, i'm dissuaded to buy it now. Perhaps later if there's some real corrections patchs / not placebo : i want to see it from my eyes on vids.
 
Hi mate. I have made 9 games on FUMA/8 minutes/Legendary or champion
The game have a very good potential but the speed is too much.
Slow is always buggy so unplayable.
I have made this game : United vs City/Italy vs Portugal/ FC Porto vs Benfica/ Marseille Vs Lyon/ Dortmund vs Bayern Munich/Inter Milan Vs Ac Milan / England Vs France/ Real Vs Barca

On legend, AI is Géry strong with défaut seetings : I Lost 1-9 ( United vs City) and 1-10 (Marseille vs Lyon). It was only box to box games with no midfields.
GK were good but strickers were overpowered with no errror. Boring.

So I tried Champion and i was another game! My best match was Italy vs Portugal, with midfields battles, long shoots from CR7 and others, a very stressing game Lost 1-2 with a golden goal from CR7 !
A Lost 2-0 versus Ac Milan with a double from Zlatan! Very good match too. Milan AC GK was on fire with 10 saves!
Halaand is fantastic to used with his typical running, i have beaten Munich 3-0 at home, the ambiance was fantastic !
Messi made a hat trick versus my poor Real Madrid. I Lost 1-4 at Bernabéu, shame on me!

Short passes and changes crosses have kill me. The new ball physics is great, shooting too.

Defence is harder that FIFA 21 nextgen, if you're wrong, you're dead. But great defenders made good stuff between strickers.
I really appreciate this game, it's now more a FIFA 21,5, Hypermotion brings really good transition in animations but the global game speed is really to high.
I hope i could slow down the game with sliders
 
saturator said:
Halaand is fantastic to used with his typical running, i have beaten Munich 3-0 at home, the ambiance was fantastic !
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The only think that cames in my mind was "when will that guy will win a match?" Finally after ready what's below i thinked : there's perhaps a god.
 
Rip-IssPesFifa said:
Has anyone seen the fans leaving early yet?
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We see players with hyper cancel (so hyper than the ball pass trough the player body) a super human dribbling everyone as speed to change direction than even a fly would be pissed, lost the ball and re-take it after 1 second, a Nostradamus defender who stop to play when the attacker shoots at the distance of a penalty, we also saw ultra speed passing that even in slow motion it was too fast...
And what you are thinkin is "Does the supporters left the crow before the end of the match?" Seriously?

Joke aside bro, it wouldn't even came in my mind, we saw so bad things that... Just who cares.
But i will answer, in my opinion i think even supporter may found the match too arcade so they may rage quit too like us. Super AI even for the supporters.
 
Unfortunately, seems like the midfield is like this permanently. On Professional (in this clip), World Class, Legendary or Ultimate. New-gen.

Also, notice the skating when the Wolves player is pressed. Bumper-car physics. No Fouls. Ever.

(All the flickering around the faces is a known bug apparently.)



As for Hypermotion (new-gen)...

Talk about skating!!!

Coady breaking his ankle and his foot facing the wrong way isn't great either.


 
Chris Davies said:

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When I see things like this I just feel exasperated. How can we be at this point in 2021, on this generation of console? We (within this thread and the wild west of social media) can and do clash over a lack of fouls or levels AI support or player positioning, but this - something objectively broken - we all deserve better.

Beta doesn't wash. At this stage of development, these glitches shouldn't be present.
 
Worst thing is the known issues list on the closed beta forums.

It's all to do with online/ultimate team.

Career mode and kick off modes don't sell copies.
 
There are some graphical Glitches and sometimes on animations too, it's a bêta, remember folks.

I only played on Legend and Champion, and midfields look good. I will recorded for me some clips (sharing is forbidden) because when I played i don't see all animations and situations on the pitch.

If i want to be more precise I have to do this!
When I Lost 1-9 and 1-10 at home, I don't know if the crowd left the stadium early.

For now, i really enjoy it. Not perfect but with hypermotion on board, I only focuse on the pitch, because it's look real. No more stupids GK who always didn't stop shoots near the first post. Footplanting looks great. I will make more replays to look after that.

When a runner sticker like Mbappé accelerates, you could stop it if you react with good timings. Wings are not desserted anymore by AI. But defenders didn't tacle, only physical duel in 80% of the Time. What a pity!

Fatigue is better now. After on hour, players didn't run like they do at the beginning of the match.
 
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saturator said:
Many videos on the beta look s**t in general, I don't know why. I prefer see it with my eyes. If it's bad, i will tell you it's suck👌
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Just saying fooplanting was non existing in 20-21 ,and we can hardly take it any othe way seeing videos proving that for 22 as well
 
vialli82 said:
We see players with hyper cancel (so hyper than the ball pass trough the player body) a super human dribbling everyone as speed to change direction than even a fly would be pissed, lost the ball and re-take it after 1 second, a Nostradamus defender who stop to play when the attacker shoots at the distance of a penalty, we also saw ultra speed passing that even in slow motion it was too fast...
And what you are thinkin is "Does the supporters left the crow before the end of the match?" Seriously?

Joke aside bro, it wouldn't even came in my mind, we saw so bad things that... Just who cares.
But i will answer, in my opinion i think even supporter may found the match too arcade so they may rage quit too like us. Super AI even for the supporters.
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It's a new feature in the game. Quite a good touch actually if it does happen not seen it myself. Attention to small details makes the full experience much better.
 
Has a glow around players I don't like
Ball size is good
Pass speed good
Presentation excellent
Wingers make some good off the ball runs


Defending, there is none

Back line drop for no reason
2nd press doesn't work
CPU players don't engage
CPU players don't track
CPU players......

Just like 21 it's a great game until the other team have the ball. Then all you do is watch them turn and ping 1-2's in your box while you can't get near them. Whether you concede or not is decided by your keepers ability.
 
Chris Davies said:
You can't ask someone to do that, mate. They could get their account banned.
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I was kidding, hence me saying “We won’t tell anyone” but people thought I was serious.

(A terrible joke I know :LOL:)

Edit: for the record, someone I know has this beta. He doesn’t even like football gaming that much, it’s infuriating. I messaged him on Xbox last night to ask what he thought of it and he loves it.

He only ever plays FUT.
 
This franchise is dead for people who want a simulation of the beautiful game.

you only have to look at the crazy amount of YouTube content which is all about pack openings.
look at the feedback on the beta forums which is all about ultimate team.

even the fifa producer zero, when asked why cms don’t track back, he states because if they did, there would be less goals.

fifa today is all about goals, skills and packs.

mom finished with this franchise.
 
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