FIFA 22 Discussion (Console Versions)

[Redhat]

Interesting to see the chat about fouls in here. I've very rarely struggled to win fouls in any previous title (FIFA or PES), penalties aside.

The same is true for 22 and it always come back to the same point for me...you have to win fouls. Fouls very rarely just happen unless it's a break or a shirt pull etc. Whilst it would be nice to see those, they'd need to get the balance perfect to prevent it being infuriating.

I always play FIFA and PES like the players real life counterparts would do and as realistically as possible. With that said, I'll try and off balance the tackling player as they step in with a quick shift, I'll do a step over with Sancho or a chop with rashford and I draw fouls fairly frequently.

If you're not drawing defenders in and just passing around them, fouls are inevitably going to be less frequent.

I agree with the sentiment. Perhaps it's just me that's struggling, but I don't think it's as straight forward in FIFA 22. I know in this instance it's Messi, but I can do this for days on PES 2021 with any half-decent dribbler.



I don't ping the ball around constantly for one because I play FUMA, and two, I too approach taking players on in a similar manner. I'll play countless matches where literally all I do is try to win fouls or skip past defenders for testing purposes. I do this in every football game I've ever played. I've yet to crack the code for FIFA 22, but I'm still trying. Obviously just because I can't draw fouls on a regular basis doesn't mean it's not possible, just that I'm certainly trying my damnedest.

 

[stevie8]

How long did it take you to master FUMA? How did you practice? I tried it last night and the only highlight of the game was a trademark 60 yard diagonal from Trent to Mane. But I'm misplacing simple 5 yard passes and am absolutely useless in front of goal 🤣. Takes bit of the immersion out hut that's on me I suppose.

 

[vialli82]

Many use Manual but Semi for shooting. I don't know if it's still the same issue, but shooting with Manual was way much stronger and straight (well strengthness result often in straightness) than Semi or Assisted. I think it's because it's already pretty hard to shoot on the goal, if you got too much deviations with the ball, it became impossible practically.

Edit: except if you play Online, manual vs manual, it's pretty hard to shoot against CPU with manual shooting, that's well known.

 

[Redhat]

How long did it take you to master FUMA? How did you practice? I tried it last night and the only highlight of the game was a trademark 60 yard diagonal from Trent to Mane. But I'm misplacing simple 5 yard passes and am absolutely useless in front of goal 🤣. Takes bit of the immersion out hut that's on me I suppose.

Like anything else, you just gotta stick with it if that's what you want. Persistence is key! Like @vialli82 said, I'd suggest using semi-shooting or even assisted while practicing or transitioning into FUMA.

Someone else in this thread mentioned that semi-assist and manual felt easier this year and I thought the same, but I wasn't exactly sure why that was at first. I feel like diagonals are relatively easy even on manual, but I'm playing a career with Dinamo Bucuresti and those trivial long balls became... a little less trivial Back to my point, I honestly believe that a big part of it is that the player switching and loose ball awareness has been improved which results in your teammates being more efficient at gathering passes that are slightly astray. If I mishit a pass or intentionally put it into space, my teammates don't bumble around like confused idiots trying to process what to do next. I'm not fighting to get them to do the basic task of going after the football. That's the difference maker. Again, this might just be in my head.

 

[Slippytoad]

You should be able to refund without problems! @papinho81 tried it and easily refunded it if I understood correctly (tagged for confirm).

But yeah, the next gen version is another beast compared with the old one. I think the pc game can still be enjoyed, but as of now in all honesty I couldn't go back to it.

I tried it but it was far too laggy for me and unplayable. It's a shame but my net connection is just not up to it

 

[Chris Davies]

Like anything else, you just gotta stick with it if that's what you want. Persistence is key! Like @vialli82 said, I'd suggest using semi-shooting or even assisted while practicing or transitioning into FUMA.

Someone else in this thread mentioned that semi-assist and manual felt easier this year and I thought the same, but I wasn't exactly sure why that was at first. I feel like diagonals are relatively easy even on manual, but I'm playing a career with Dinamo Bucuresti and those trivial long balls became... a little less trivial Back to my point, I honestly believe that a big part of it is that the player switching and loose ball awareness has been improved which results in your teammates being more efficient at gathering passes that are slightly astray. If I mishit a pass or intentionally put it into space, my teammates don't bumble around like confused idiots trying to process what to do next. I'm not fighting to get them to do the basic task of going after the football. That's the difference maker. Again, this might just be in my head.

Entirely agree with all of this.

I set everything to "semi" and I was fairly disappointed, playing as Burnley, at how it felt. Couldn't tell the difference between assisted and semi. Then, I started a Tranmere career and... Now I feel it. But poor passes still rarely lead to giving away possession simply because AI teammates seem to hoover up the ball much more easily, because they don't seem to run to where they think you'll put the ball, but start running to where you DO put the ball, much more quickly.

 

[Emroth]

How long did it take you to master FUMA? How did you practice? I tried it last night and the only highlight of the game was a trademark 60 yard diagonal from Trent to Mane. But I'm misplacing simple 5 yard passes and am absolutely useless in front of goal 🤣. Takes bit of the immersion out hut that's on me I suppose.

Im not gonna lie - it will be rough to start FUMA adventure with Fifa.
On Pes it was much easier to learn, as player animations were slower and it was easier to place the ball.
On top of that, like I said before, Fifa target lock adds another challenge to it..

Edit: About 'Target Lock'👇

16 was perfect, as I still play this now (and love it).
From 18 up FUMA was... weird. I certainly wouldnt say it was less free than Pes, if anything - it felt much more free... and random.
Its probably due to "Lock on to target" mechanism. See in Fifa you have two options - it will lock to the target early, when you press the pass button, or it will lock onto last minute, when player kicks the ball.
Due to players being twitchy as fuck - both are not working great.
If its early lock on - your player might twitch and turn, resulting his body being away from the direction and passes going to shite.
Late lock on is very hard for Pes players to get used to, coz quite often our muscle memory assumes that direction is locked and we are trying to start a run with the player as we kick the ball. Which results in pass going towards direction we wanted to turn last minute.

It takes a lot of time to get used to FUMA on FIFA and its much more challenging/frustrating than Pes.

But its also rewarding and (due to much more free ball) adds more randomness than on Pes, where FUMA still sometimes feels a little bit assisted

But if you want to learn it (99% of people playing on Manual will tell you its worth the struggle) and you dont want to break the immersion too much by missing simple shots with decent players - I'd suggest to start at the very bottom, with some FC Barbers team, so if they miss 9/10 shots - you can always tell yourself that they are simply shite.

Although Im gonna be honest - im really struggling at the bottom.
I created a team with weakest stats possible and put them in Irish League. My striker has 49OVR..
Fuck me.. that's some diabolical football on my part.. reminds me when I started playing Pes2 and for the first couple of matches I didnt even have a shot on target.. absolute tragedy..

 

[vialli82]

Also one thing that make it harder : the pitch is overally bigger on Fifa (it's pretty obvious when you switch to a game for another).
Players have more space between them. Ball is smaller.
So even yes, manual passing is harder, even harder than it was on FIFA 14 where the pitch was smaller for example.
At least to me, perhaps some people with more space got easier. I don't

 

[JUNELELE]

How long did it take you to master FUMA? How did you practice? I tried it last night and the only highlight of the game was a trademark 60 yard diagonal from Trent to Mane. But I'm misplacing simple 5 yard passes and am absolutely useless in front of goal 🤣. Takes bit of the immersion out hut that's on me I suppose.

Use the FIFA Trainer. You can turn it on in main menu settings, and there are more customisable options for it in the in-game pause menu.

It'll show you where exactly where you passes and shots are going so it's really good visual guide for learning manual and having 360 degree control over your aim.

 

[vialli82]

Pretty good idea too. I completely forgot about that thing, i don't remember when this that stuff appeared but i removed it directly.
But for manual, learning at least for a little moment, keeping the arrow may help you for sure.
After, you will remove it, and it will be another step, but keeping it... If you don't want too much annoying visual adds and keep the overall TV lookalike of the game...
And for me, psychologically, it's a bit a "visual pollution" (when there's too much thing in your vision field : you're affected psychologically and got harder to think logically, i mean for the other moves. Focus only on passing and shooting with that helping feature)
Well you will play less good with too much thing like that in the same screen. So don't worry, removing it will make you better, normally.

 

[PRO_TOO]

How long did it take you to master FUMA? How did you practice? I tried it last night and the only highlight of the game was a trademark 60 yard diagonal from Trent to Mane. But I'm misplacing simple 5 yard passes and am absolutely useless in front of goal 🤣. Takes bit of the immersion out hut that's on me I suppose.

What the other guys said.
not sure when I fully switched, it’s been a long time, but never went back. When I did for testing, something was missing. Control!
being responsible, even more, for an outcome!
anyway, give it some time. Imagine going to your home towns football pitch the first time, wanting to play football, wanting to become your favorite player. how would that turn out after a day, a week or a month? Pretty sure you become a league champion and champions league title holder in fifa before you play 5 mud matches on your home town turf.

 

[PRO_TOO]

took some screener. I’ll stay with broadcast at 0, 0! It’s that little bit of more estate on the pitch plus some minor stadium details shine as well.

10 / 10 (default / custom)


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Spoiler: More

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0 / 0 (default / custom)

how I wish there where more options.

 

[saturator]

How long did it take you to master FUMA? How did you practice? I tried it last night and the only highlight of the game was a trademark 60 yard diagonal from Trent to Mane. But I'm misplacing simple 5 yard passes and am absolutely useless in front of goal 🤣. Takes bit of the immersion out hut that's on me I suppose.

It takes me 20 matches to master. Shoot is fine, passes too. I have some problems to cross.
No problem now. I played FUMA since FIFA 20.
A Big match with Marseille on Europa cup. Lose ar home 0-1 the first match.
Here we go!



And the pass at the 72th minute, nice!

 

[vialli82]

took some screener. I’ll stay with broadcast at 0, 0! It’s that little bit of more estate on the pitch plus some minor stadium details shine as well.

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I like the first, second and the 2 last thanks.

I used TV + 14/12 or something like that also tried on TV Broadcast, but i think "Default" will suits me more for sure.
The second from the spoiler is from default but another perspective right?

I just want the same, but with less angle, for shooting on goal i would need to buy a VR stuff 😂 But i think the camera angle it's greyed on Default... Not sure.

 

[Antoine]

These are my settings! ON professional.
stop it already!

now tell me, have you… MAAAAAYYYYBE, switched some buttons? don’t tell me wich ones yet, if you did.

Ha ha I switch shoot to x and cross to b on Xbox. And on defending I put push pull on x and slide on b

 

[Antoine]

How long did it take you to master FUMA? How did you practice? I tried it last night and the only highlight of the game was a trademark 60 yard diagonal from Trent to Mane. But I'm misplacing simple 5 yard passes and am absolutely useless in front of goal 🤣. Takes bit of the immersion out hut that's on me I suppose.

Stick at it it’s amazing when you start to get to grips with it. You will never go back. I started with fifa 08.

fifa on assisted is a waste of time it’s far too easy. The cpu basically aims for you and it’s a flat experience. You should be able to miss with the likes of mane and salah because they do in real life.

 

[PRO_TOO]

Ha ha I switch shoot to x and cross to b on Xbox. And on defending I put push pull on x and slide on b

Na. That’s a habit I took over to the good old Konami titles. Shooting is on ⭕️, your B.
Sprinting I switch to R1 and close controls to R2. Team pressure on square, slide tackle to ⭕️, X is my tackle button.

 

[pepper63]

Entirely agree with all of this.

I set everything to "semi" and I was fairly disappointed, playing as Burnley, at how it felt. Couldn't tell the difference between assisted and semi. Then, I started a Tranmere career and... Now I feel it. But poor passes still rarely lead to giving away possession simply because AI teammates seem to hoover up the ball much more easily, because they don't seem to run to where they think you'll put the ball, but start running to where you DO put the ball, much more quickly.

Chris has a semi

 

[jaygrim]

Chris has a semi

Are you still shit at this @pepper63?

 

[Madmac79]

Started my first trial career with Wolves, at World Class. Tinkered a bit the sliders, inspired by the ones of @Redhat (tweaked FTE, shooting and passing error/speed, reduced my sprint speed, raised inury frequency to 80, even if I think I'll probably have to go even higher as I'm still not seeing enough). Had three really nice games; was hammered by Leicester (3-0) and Spurs (4-0), but managed to beat Norwich in the EFL Cup by penalties; nice to notice that the latter game had a completely different feel compared to the other two, since Norwich certainly doesn't have the same quality of the former both and it was perfectly reflected on the field, by them being a lot less dangerous and failing way more passes and actions.

From this three games I also noticed that CPU feels much, much tighter in career than in friendly; should be kinda expected of course, but the way the spaces became narrow in the field felt so better compared with plain kick off matches. Love how the late game feels heavier and slower and, when that's the case, reflect low stamina as well. Last 20 minutes against Tottenham in particular come to my mind as particularly vivid, when I was 2 down, with both teams being tired and me having an hard time attacking, and them equally struggling in trying counters (until Son came in from the bench.. and they indeed put in the other 2). Really curious to try a less glamorous league, will probably do after this one.

Random thoughts;
-with lower sprint speed I'm seeing more physical play; of course still next to none fouls, but that's another matter.
-keepers are really too OP. Was meditating on lowering their slider as well, but as of now scores are balanced this way so I'll probably wait it out.
-I'm having such an hard time defending. I think against great teams I've never held a clean sheet, to the contrary I've never took less than 2 goals; but considering that with weaker sides I can hold my own it's fine. I don't like easy games anyway and the field makes sense according to the team stats, exactly as I've always wanted, so maybe I just need to, uh, get better.

As an ending note, this Fifa 22 was such a big surprise I'm still a bit stunned. I was already resigned to another year without a new football title, and now I'm spamming matches whenever I have some gaming time. It's not perfect and there are things I surely wish were different.. but after more hours I can only confirm that the game is damn fun, in the current state one of the most enjoyable I've played in modern era.

p.s. inevitable whine; why Serie A must suck even worse than the usual right this year. Those fake kits break immersion so bad. They gave only to my Lazio a decent light blue fake shirt, I wonder why couldn't they produce better, decent imitations for the rest of the teams. I would have been satisfied with that, but with the horrid things they worn them in are so off putting.

 

[saturator]

Some highlights on FUMA :

 

[vialli82]

About serie A if they just "unlock" a simple system like the team creator to build +- some kits and renamming, i'll be happy enough.
Because Serie b is also touched by this. Well, we care a bit less about it, but at least name and logo without nothing on it just the shape would be cool.

I don't really a super carrying guy about kits but just having a very simple minimum would be pretty great.
That's annoying for an Italy fan (even if for Fifa, if i start a career it will be on Bundes 2, 3 or EFL, League One)

 

[Emroth]

Some highlights on FUMA :

Holy shit that ball is absolutely gorgeous!!!

 

[Emroth]

Im loving this game more and more. When you find your sweet spot with sliders and settings - its so organic! Some passes are Straight Outta Match Of The Day..
Its still Frostbite Fifa, but they did so well this year to make it play like this against AI. Its so fun!

But those player stats in your Career Mode squad really annoy me...

+3
-7
Orange Exclamation Mark
Red exclamation mark
Arrow up
Arrow down
Smiley Face
Grumpy Face
Some fucking Diamond

Squad Sheet looks like my 7 year old daughters drawing... just chaos!
Who thought putting so much shit into it was a good idea is beyond me..

 

[saturator]

Holy shit that ball is absolutely gorgeous!!!

Yes man, i'm in love with this game. I have sonmany videos to share.
Milik goal on Ultimate with my sliders

 

[vialli82]

I think they did all they think the game needed. Now they add tons of stuffs who is a bit confusing.
Like the + for position system with +8 +5 +7 etc. I think the + and - with form was enough.

I don't want it for Season, it's too "forced" i hate when you modify stats like this, and players will be a bit too strong just because, you obviously put him on your formation to his natural position. That's seriously blocking me to play online in competitive seasons (not FUT), like i always did for each FIFA from the 8 to the 17 (well i played 2 months on the 18 and 2 weeks on the 19 so won't count it).

At that time, Online was very fresh, their servers weir pretty great. FIFA was especially for online to me even if i gotted many rage quit and insult or the worst is when you reach 2nd or 1st divsion : you meet very annoying non sportive player and trolling you when they wen for making you quit the game. But i didn't. Just for annoying them 🙂
Also it was difficult but i sometimes spended 30 minutes to found a Manual player on some version... But they aren't that cool as you think. I also received insult after a won or rage quit haha but whatever. That's more or less the principal reason i never completely switched to Manual, but just sometimes. Too hard to found opponent, and 90% of the friend from PSN didn't played manual so

 

[saturator]

A spectacular draw 0-0

 

[ninety3twenty]

Those huge flags get on my nerves. I don't think most people wave huge ass flags throughout entire matches.

Or maybe it's been so long since I have seen proper crowds.

When I was 15, at Coventry away in the fa cup. A city fan hit me hard in the back because I stood on my seat. So I imagine if I had one of those flags, I would be buried and he would be in strange ways now.
Those were the days, lobbing snowballs at Gordon Strachan as he ran down the right wing.

 

[Mathgamer]

👀

A lot of positivity, I'm finding it strange. Update is coming 😅

 

[ninety3twenty]

OK so, this EA play thing, it will give me discount on the price for Fifa 22 (and more titles I suppose) but I will be stuck with EA play as long as I want to have access to the games, right?

edit: I just found this

• 
  If your membership expires, any purchases you made with your member discount are yours to keep.

So I could theoretically have EA Play for one month and get the discount? Because it looks like I can get the first month now for 0.79 pounds.

Yeah, that’s correct pal.

if you buy the game, it’s like a normal purchase except you get the EA play discount upon purchase .