FIFA 20 Discussion (Console Versions)

I know I’m going to pick this up..

Enjoyed 19 to much unpatched out of the box and although I have my concerns over game speed.As a overall package fifa gives me things I Just don’t get from the other game.

Still lots of potential here..Fifa can change so much in the latter stages of development and looking forward to experiencing the demo and extended play via ea access.

My hope is that game speed by default is reduced and late in the day we see a wholesale improvement to ground passing both interms of physics and feel(Imo it would make a massive difference).

I just don’t think I could live without that shooting.Play in the last third and the variety is still FIFA’s strength.
 
bsmaff said:
Anyone on PC - The game is now available to add to your library with Origin Premier.
You can select FIFA 20 Ultimate Edition.

Pre-load starts 13th September with the UK release date 18th September @4PM.

If you don't have Origin Premier it can be purchased for £50 using a Russian VPN - All games are downloaded in the region you live in.
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So, no demo. And nobody is saying anything? What is going on with us?
 
DigitalByDesign said:
My hope is that game speed by default is reduced
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The biggest complain of most Fifa players about Pes is that it's too slow,if you look on comments on youtube etc.
Everyone knows this,and pretty sure EA knows this too.
So they're not gonna shoot themselves in the foot like that by making the default speed slow enough and realistic and then have all them Fut heads busting their balls on social media that the game is ''boring'' and ''not fun''.
The default speed is still gonna be fast and arcady enough to please them.Either on release or with a patch a bit later.
It's the same repetitive story every year.
Hopefully if it plays realistic enough on Slow it will be very welcomed for offliners at least.
Maybe with some slider modifications also.
Although the more you try to ''fix'' it with sliders,the more it fucks up the game from my experience and you enter an endless loop of messing with them all the time and never be totally happy with the final result.
When the core is as it is and the game is built to play in a specific way,sliders can't do much about it.
It's just an aspirin and many times it creates even more issues instead of solving them.
 
Chuny said:
Little weasel's refined penalty kick animation


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Much better and more realistic run ups this year and with correct foot planting compared to 19's slidey animation butchered ones.Also the cycle target looks more modern and beautiful compared to the ugly ass huge arrow from 19.

I would like them also to rework the corners system and execution animations though.
It's still the exact same thing with the same ugly yellow cross on the turf (it really frustrates me that they don't put an on/off option for it in normal play.I hate seeing it and it kills the realism a bit.First thing i do on Pes is always to disable the ball cursor on pc) which looks like you're about to drop a missile and the kicking animation is always the same for every player for many years now.And the animation is not even realistic enough.Looks more like he's shooting than crossing.
 
Chuny said:
Little weasel's refined penalty kick animation

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And that is why I dislike EA, more concerned with making sure that overated diver has his correct penalty run up, than concentrate on making big game play changes and improving the game modes.
 
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Dennis_87 said:
The biggest complain of most Fifa players about Pes is that it's too slow,if you look on comments on youtube etc.
Everyone knows this,and pretty sure EA knows this too.
So they're not gonna shoot themselves in the foot like that by making the default speed slow enough and realistic and then have all them Fut heads busting their balls on social media that the game is ''boring'' and ''not fun''.
The default speed is still gonna be fast and arcady enough to please them.Either on release or with a patch a bit later.
It's the same repetitive story every year.
Hopefully if it plays realistic enough on Slow it will be very welcomed for offliners at least.
Maybe with some slider modifications also.
Although the more you try to ''fix'' it with sliders,the more it fucks up the game from my experience and you enter an endless loop of messing with them all the time and never be totally happy with the final result.
When the core is as it is and the game is built to play in a specific way,sliders can't do much about it.
It's just an aspirin and many times it creates even more issues instead of solving them.
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Thing is the core of 19 was excellent as was the speed(out of the box pre-patched)..For me it still has the best AI i have experienced in a football game.Team variation and positional awareness is also first rate.

Massive difference between a j league side for instance against a top league giant.Although subsequent patches for me watered down the experience some what.

I don’t think all is lost just yet..While I’m not overly impressed with what Ive seen.Im still open to trying the demo and extended play testing on ea access.

Calling fifa a arcade game is maybe a little strong and unfair.16 is still for me one of the best footie games ever made and i am someone that up until 2008 wouldn’t even touch fifa.

Room in my life for both games..Pes is already on pre-order for the PS4.

Chris summed it up best for me..Pes has a chess quality that’s very reminiscent of the ps2 days..While fifa offers me things in other areas that Pes doesn’t.Tactical variation and a feel around goal that’s more reminiscent of the modern game..

Whatever’s said..Imo fifa is still more fluid and feels more responsive..It plays like a modern game.
 
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19 out of the box was almost brilliant I dare say. For example I remember even players of lesser or not big teams anyway playing a lot to their attributes and traits. The patches later however heavily changed that feel for the worse at least for me, I remember in particular a moment in which they all more or less used to play very directly and with a lot of short passes.
 
Flipper the Priest said:
Game of opinions - I thought 19 was atrocious out of the box! It was like beach football with overhead kicks and flying volleys galore. Patches subdued that and it became any other Frostbite FIFA.
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Bicycle kicks was the only thing they really nerfed a bit. It was becoming a negative internet meme, which is what it takes for EA to do something. Otherwise I'm pretty sure they would leave it like that! The game was mostly the same thoughout the year, positions like the full backs were broken from the start I think. But they also def. sped it up a bit. I still have version 1.0 backed up somewhere on my hard drive. Fifa gameplay/speed can be highly inconsistent (hope they fix this before I die) but sometimes I think player movement felt a bit better on v1. But apart from that it was pretty much the same game, at least until december when I finally realised that nothing else is getting fixed/improved and I uninstalled it, lol.
 
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If I was a defender and someone did this moonwalking thing for more than 2 times in a row I would break his legs. But it seems EA has thought of that too, because I see they are trying to tackle him in the video but the tackles do nothing, as if the guy with the ball is surrounded by a force field. So yeah, "another game for 5 year olds" is all i can think of.
 
manmachine said:
If I was a defender and someone did this moonwalking thing for more than 2 times in a row I would break his legs. But it seems EA has thought of that too, because I see they are trying to tackle him in the video but the tackles do nothing, as if the guy with the ball is surrounded by a force field. So yeah, "another game for 5 year olds" is all i can think of.
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FIFA 21 will come with a brand new feature.
Two new button combinations.
-Roll-over and fake pain
-Intentional attempt to injure a rival.

I'm totally in by the way.
 
actually what lets it down is the ball doesn't roll correctly on the grass, watch the first 30 seconds and you'll see it actually unnaturally slows down when the boot touches it, also there should be more give in the ball as the weight of the boot comes down on it
 
goalgerd said:

It looks really good close up though
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That's the problem for me, it doesn't look bad close up and slowed down but in game it looks horrendous. The sideways movement isn't too bad but the one going backwards is so awful it's laughable, how can they seriously have done that and thought "yeah that looks good".

It doesn't help of course that your average FIFA player will chain loads of them together which makes it look even more silly (Top example at 1 min 25 secs in that video, looks like he's skating on ice backwards!). I guess this is the price you pay for having such fast gameplay, everything else has to be sped up to match and some things end up looking silly.
 
goalgerd said:

It looks really good close up though
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Strafe dribbling was terrible in the beta. Didn't mind the side to side but the moving backwards was terrible. FIFA keeps adding these bullshit mechanics that just have no place in football. Or like shielding they add something but it takes years to get it working right.

It got panned by everyone pretty much, so hopefully it's better in the full release.
 
Chuny said:
FIFA 21 will come with a brand new feature.
Two new button combinations.
-Roll-over and fake pain
-Intentional attempt to injure a rival.

I'm totally in by the way.
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I'd really love to see those features back in the game.

It was fun playing Fifa Rtwc 98 with my friends cause we used to fool around doing BS instead of playing the match.
Oh, also they should bring back the ability to beat the shit outta GK.
 
I think in FIFA on Frostbite, you are almost too free from the ball (the total opposite to PES).

That's probably why the game is all over the place at times.
 
The biggest problem with strafe dribbling is the inability to effectively just win the ball when this is being performed.

In real football doing that would allow the opposing player to easily win it..

Tricks are nice but completely disregarding the fundamentals.First touch error ect..

Imo there biggest focus this year should of been ball physics and ground passing..It’s the bread and butter of any football game..And should be laced with feel and variety.Its really lacking and one of my biggest bug bares.
 
DigitalByDesign said:
The biggest problem with strafe dribbling is the inability to effectively just win the ball when this is being performed.
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In fifa 19 you could do certain skill moves completely wrong, randomly bumping into a defender instead of avoiding him, and you wouldn't lose the ball or your balance. This is the 1st reason skill moves are a joke. The second one has to do with the reason for using them in the first place: Theoretically to create space when there is none. But game is designed to create the space for you (crap AI positioning, retreating defending line), all you have to do is make the pass the game wants you to make at the right moment. I think people use these skills all the time, not to create space, but because they know they're broken and can't be defended properly.

Like you said, just fix the fundamentals. Just make both tackles and regular left stick dribbling viable again. Instead, every year they fix the broken gimmicks they added last time around, and then go on to add a couple of new broken gimmicks.
 
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