FIFA 18 (Console Versions)

Deco said:
Scriptings a bummer Topaz. .but it has to be there not to the extent that it is though.
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I wish atleast it had some kind of pattern. Like form, mentality or the fact that I am facing a bigger and stronger club. But it's ridiculous how it is so random. I can beat Barca 5-0 and the next match lose against Leeds by 4-1 because of scripting. However I think when it comes to Superstar, it is to a less extent in PES 2018 than how it is now in FIFA 18.
 
Topaz said:
I wish atleast it had some kind of pattern. Like form, mentality or the fact that I am facing a bigger and stronger club. But it's ridiculous how it is so random. I can beat Barca 5-0 and the next match lose against Leeds by 4-1 because of scripting. However I think when it comes to Superstar, it is to a less extent in PES 2018 than how it is now in FIFA 18.
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Well I don't play Fifa and have to go by what you guys report.
 
I seriously don't enjoy every team defending like they have prime Maldinis on their backline with magnetic tackling. I tried with Hazard, Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Bale and i cannot get past Crewe Alexander(worst team in the game) with these players. Dribbling is so poor in this game compared to PES.
 
Topaz said:
I seriously don't enjoy every team defending like they have prime Maldinis on their backline with magnetic tackling. I tried with Hazard, Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Bale and i cannot get past Crewe Alexander(worst team in the game) with these players. Dribbling is so poor in this game compared to PES.
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Vehemently disagree. It's almost like you must be playing a different game. I absolutely love dribbling this year. If anything I'd say it's over powered. I have absolutely no issues getting past people. So much fun.
 
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Topaz said:
I seriously don't enjoy every team defending like they have prime Maldinis on their backline with magnetic tackling. I tried with Hazard, Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Bale and i cannot get past Crewe Alexander(worst team in the game) with these players. Dribbling is so poor in this game compared to PES.
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you can go past people especially against weaker teams even more so when they are tired ..you just have to time the movement right and also use right 2 button and also right stick to shield and shift the ball..in PES there's that much space almost any player can run 30 yards with the ball ..tnats not a good dribbling system
 
A lot of positive vibes about the game this year. Indeed it's good.

When that is said, i still think there is problems. Indeed overall its a good game. But in terms of Career Mode and transfers for example it isn't that much better than PES. It's prettier (cutscenes) and prices is better. But I still have 72 millions euro in my winter budget with Milan. I could sign whoever i want really. Not difficult at all. Also there way to many stars leaving by the bosman rule.

Also i think the game is less varied in the long run. I score the same type of goals more than in PES. FIFA is also scripted. Somrtimes i meet opponents who are missing to many chances.

FIFA is good. But in my opinion the feedback is a bit too positive.
 
I'm going to repeat myself here, sorry. I know I'll sound like a broken record.

Played three pre-season games in a new Career Mode game (started again after the latest patch just to be cautious).

I switched to assisted passing, which annoys me because I love semi. But when the AI's passing is never off-target, I just got fed up of putting myself at such a blatantly unfair disadvantage.

On Legendary, with nearly all default sliders (bar pass error 60, pass speed 40, FT error 60), it was phenomenal. I mean, amazing. The occasional AI driven pass, but other than that, it all clicked. Three different experiences.

Tactically, I had to read the game. I was playing one up-front (good header of the ball) and he was marked out of the game. I changed his individual instructions and managed to get him to play as a real target man, and I could get down the wings (in 2/3 matches anyway) but he couldn't get onto the headers.

Switched formation, put a CAM behind him and subbed him for a player to hit through-balls to, and bang. We were in business. (But the biggest scoreline was 2-0.)

Ended up getting to the pre-season tournament final and losing on penalties to PEC Zwolle. Looked, felt, perfect.

First game of the league season, against Leeds, and it was like the game switched from SLOW speed to FAST speed, and the pass error reduced to zero. It turned into PES.

It's either team styles, or (more likely) just that the "extremes" in terms of attributes are way too high.

As I've said before, I've got a FIFA 17 save going with Blackpool - on Professional! - and every game is very similar (but at least the midfield exists).

BUT, with FIFA 17 and those sliders that I think are genuinely perfect, if I play a Kick Off game as a Premier League team, the game isn't fun any more. Twice as fast and the AI twice as ping-pongy (though not quite as much as 18).

I'll just have to keep restarting the game on a different difficulty every time I start a match and see that it's going to be one of those where the AI's passes are so fast that they could set the fucking pitch on fire.

To me, it's the Schrödinger's Cat of football games. Before the match, you don't (and can't) know whether it's going to play at 1x or 2x speed / accuracy.

It exists as the best virtual football I've played and (some of) the worst, both at the same time. Quantum football.
 
Chris Davies said:
I'm going to repeat myself here, sorry. I know I'll sound like a broken record.

Played three pre-season games in a new Career Mode game (started again after the latest patch just to be cautious).

I switched to assisted passing, which annoys me because I love semi. But when the AI's passing is never off-target, I just got fed up of putting myself at such a blatantly unfair disadvantage.

On Legendary, with nearly all default sliders (bar pass error 60, pass speed 40, FT error 60), it was phenomenal. I mean, amazing. The occasional AI driven pass, but other than that, it all clicked. Three different experiences.

Tactically, I had to read the game. I was playing one up-front (good header of the ball) and he was marked out of the game. I changed his individual instructions and managed to get him to play as a real target man, and I could get down the wings (in 2/3 matches anyway) but he couldn't get onto the headers.

Switched formation, put a CAM behind him and subbed him for a player to hit through-balls to, and bang. We were in business. (But the biggest scoreline was 2-0.)

Ended up getting to the pre-season tournament final and losing on penalties to PEC Zwolle. Looked, felt, perfect.

First game of the league season, against Leeds, and it was like the game switched from SLOW speed to FAST speed, and the pass error reduced to zero. It turned into PES.

It's either team styles, or (more likely) just that the "extremes" in terms of attributes are way too high.

As I've said before, I've got a FIFA 17 save going with Blackpool - on Professional! - and every game is very similar (but at least the midfield exists).

BUT, with FIFA 17 and those sliders that I think are genuinely perfect, if I play a Kick Off game as a Premier League team, the game isn't fun any more. Twice as fast and the AI twice as ping-pongy (though not quite as much as 18).

I'll just have to keep restarting the game on a different difficulty every time I start a match and see that it's going to be one of those where the AI's passes are so fast that they could set the fucking pitch on fire.

To me, it's the Schrödinger's Cat of football games. Before the match, you don't (and can't) know whether it's going to play at 1x or 2x speed / accuracy.

It exists as the best virtual football I've played and (some of) the worst, both at the same time. Quantum football.
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I'm not arguing but I genuinely don't see any of these fast speed slow speed variations you're describing. At all. The game speed for me is constant, some teams get the run of the ball, other times it's me. That's football.
 
Chris Davies said:
I'm going to repeat myself here, sorry. I know I'll sound like a broken record.

Played three pre-season games in a new Career Mode game (started again after the latest patch just to be cautious).

I switched to assisted passing, which annoys me because I love semi. But when the AI's passing is never off-target, I just got fed up of putting myself at such a blatantly unfair disadvantage.

On Legendary, with nearly all default sliders (bar pass error 60, pass speed 40, FT error 60), it was phenomenal. I mean, amazing. The occasional AI driven pass, but other than that, it all clicked. Three different experiences.

Tactically, I had to read the game. I was playing one up-front (good header of the ball) and he was marked out of the game. I changed his individual instructions and managed to get him to play as a real target man, and I could get down the wings (in 2/3 matches anyway) but he couldn't get onto the headers.

Switched formation, put a CAM behind him and subbed him for a player to hit through-balls to, and bang. We were in business. (But the biggest scoreline was 2-0.)

Ended up getting to the pre-season tournament final and losing on penalties to PEC Zwolle. Looked, felt, perfect.

First game of the league season, against Leeds, and it was like the game switched from SLOW speed to FAST speed, and the pass error reduced to zero. It turned into PES.

It's either team styles, or (more likely) just that the "extremes" in terms of attributes are way too high.

As I've said before, I've got a FIFA 17 save going with Blackpool - on Professional! - and every game is very similar (but at least the midfield exists).

BUT, with FIFA 17 and those sliders that I think are genuinely perfect, if I play a Kick Off game as a Premier League team, the game isn't fun any more. Twice as fast and the AI twice as ping-pongy (though not quite as much as 18).

I'll just have to keep restarting the game on a different difficulty every time I start a match and see that it's going to be one of those where the AI's passes are so fast that they could set the fucking pitch on fire.

To me, it's the Schrödinger's Cat of football games. Before the match, you don't (and can't) know whether it's going to play at 1x or 2x speed / accuracy.

It exists as the best virtual football I've played and (some of) the worst, both at the same time. Quantum football.
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Yep, I've been seeing this too. To a less degree with my career mode with QPR, but getting it a lot in exhibition mode. Played spurs Vs WBA yesterday, on slow, and the game was faster than I've ever seen it, just ridiculous. Something weird must be triggering it. It's like the frame rate drops or something.
 
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Chris Davies said:
I'm going to repeat myself here, sorry. I know I'll sound like a broken record.

Played three pre-season games in a new Career Mode game (started again after the latest patch just to be cautious).

I switched to assisted passing, which annoys me because I love semi. But when the AI's passing is never off-target, I just got fed up of putting myself at such a blatantly unfair disadvantage.

On Legendary, with nearly all default sliders (bar pass error 60, pass speed 40, FT error 60), it was phenomenal. I mean, amazing. The occasional AI driven pass, but other than that, it all clicked. Three different experiences.

Tactically, I had to read the game. I was playing one up-front (good header of the ball) and he was marked out of the game. I changed his individual instructions and managed to get him to play as a real target man, and I could get down the wings (in 2/3 matches anyway) but he couldn't get onto the headers.

Switched formation, put a CAM behind him and subbed him for a player to hit through-balls to, and bang. We were in business. (But the biggest scoreline was 2-0.)

Ended up getting to the pre-season tournament final and losing on penalties to PEC Zwolle. Looked, felt, perfect.

First game of the league season, against Leeds, and it was like the game switched from SLOW speed to FAST speed, and the pass error reduced to zero. It turned into PES.

It's either team styles, or (more likely) just that the "extremes" in terms of attributes are way too high.

As I've said before, I've got a FIFA 17 save going with Blackpool - on Professional! - and every game is very similar (but at least the midfield exists).

BUT, with FIFA 17 and those sliders that I think are genuinely perfect, if I play a Kick Off game as a Premier League team, the game isn't fun any more. Twice as fast and the AI twice as ping-pongy (though not quite as much as 18).

I'll just have to keep restarting the game on a different difficulty every time I start a match and see that it's going to be one of those where the AI's passes are so fast that they could set the fucking pitch on fire.

To me, it's the Schrödinger's Cat of football games. Before the match, you don't (and can't) know whether it's going to play at 1x or 2x speed / accuracy.

It exists as the best virtual football I've played and (some of) the worst, both at the same time. Quantum football.
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On a good day what pass percentage does the CPU have,and I'll guess it's up in the 90's on a bad day right?
This is why I never play Semi or manual on FIFA,on 16 they had 90-93 % every game,Blackpool or Real Madrid,find it to be less on my 17,but is it those numbers on 18 to?
I really don't enjoy manual unless pass is pretty even for both.
Which sucks,since the game opens up with semi or manual
 
CPU and myself have never gone above 85% even on assisted passing on my games from what I have seen.

I am still loving it, hopefully it lasts.
 
shez said:
LOLZ

Would be nice if we can save and upload our gameplay sliders like NBA2k.
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Would be fantastic,that's the next step,I hope!
Have you got your 18 in order yet?
Buying it next week,unless it reports to be a mess.
Enjoying 17 and Pes a great deal,don't really have the need for it,yet!
 
Playing the journey today and loving it, game plays great, team identity is fantastic, I'm on chapter 5 playing as DW at Newcastle, had matches against Arsenal and West Brom and they were fantastic, both played very true to life.

Edit: Err spoiler tags seem to be broken?
 
Placebo said:
Playing the journey today and loving it, game plays great, team identity is fantastic, I'm on chapter 5 playing as DW at Newcastle, had matches against Arsenal and West Brom and they were fantastic, both played very true to life.

Edit: Err spoiler tags seem to be broken?
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How's the scripting compared to normal player career,where it sometimes gets very noticeable.
You know running in to space and your team mate hits a screamer in the back of your head instead of a smooth pass on your feet
 
mfmaxpower said:
Vehemently disagree. It's almost like you must be playing a different game. I absolutely love dribbling this year. If anything I'd say it's over powered. I have absolutely no issues getting past people. So much fun.
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Professional and World Class too easy. Defenders don't even try. Legendary, defender have magnetic boots. Play with Real Madrid against Crewe Alexander in Legendary and try to use Bale or Ronaldo. Their 40-50 rated CBs and FBs are like great wall of china. However you can easily score goals by a through pass but unless you do skills, no way going past any defenders in Legendary. By the way I am on PC on the newest patch.

Edit: Switching to PS4 fixed the dribbling issue for me.
 
rockstrongo said:
How's the scripting compared to normal player career,where it sometimes gets very noticeable.
You know running in to space and your team mate hits a screamer in the back of your head instead of a smooth pass on your feet
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I play as the team I don't like playing as the one player, can't say I've noticed any troubling scripting to be honest, just enjoying the matches!
 
Placebo said:
I play as the team I don't like playing as the one player, can't say I've noticed any troubling scripting to be honest, just enjoying the matches!
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Sounds good,I always do the same,but sometimes my team mates ( which I control) makes insane passes,probably be good passes if they'd reached anyone else.
Thanx
 
Placebo said:
I play as the team I don't like playing as the one player, can't say I've noticed any troubling scripting to be honest, just enjoying the matches!
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Oh, you can do that in the journey? Nice. I've never tried it thinking I had to control the one guy. Never seen the appeal with that. So nice! Thanks. :)
 
Really good game I can not give up on it yet.
Some games are super scripted when EA release patch notes saying they have toned down semi-pro and beginner difficulty you know something is seriously hard baked into the code. So after playing a 5 or 6 games of semi-pro and losing some of those games even on assisted settings. I get to the point of pasting semi-pro 4-0 and then the CPU sends me a prompt saying congratulations you have mastered semi-pro go to pro difficulty. With the 3options of Yes No or Disable Dynamic Difficulty. Of course I choose Disable Dynamic Difficulty. Fired up a pro game using PSG vs Monaco and had a fair fight against the CPU winning 2-0.

Still a really good game but the fellas will be going to the lab on this game that's for sure.
 
So I log on tonight and fire the game up, it informs me about the update which was nice.

First game I played Chelsea and Bakayoko was breaking everything up at first, found a way around him and scored eerily similar winger left unmarked for through ball goals, ok I thought.

Next game was against Man City in the carabao cup, thought I'd play my reserves, I beat them 7-1 :(
Whatever they say they've done to shooting by making it more error prone has had the opposite effect, my passing is now not with error at all, first time or anything it's just perfect.

I played a few more games and absolutely steamrollered teams.

What on earth have they done and why? It was almost perfect without patch, I don't understand they have turned it into last years game, I'm trying not be all hyperbole but I'm genuinely upset by this, I can't even play it even more, I tweeted them and said to roll it back.
 
While trying to find a balance on my own, I changed my mind on one thing.. acceleration needs to stay at 50/50. It gets buggy in a way or another, more or less like it happened the other years touching those stats. Putting me at 49 and cpu at 50 was the worst experience ever with this Fifa 2018.. not only the stamina becomes irrelevant as known but it felt like my stats were nerfed in an horrible, dull way and the cpu became an assassin, winning any contrast and impossible to stop.. it was like old Fifas once again, the excellent variety of the game gone.. and again, in some conditions pace and animations are more than fine even with 50/50, in some others they are flashy even when I put those values down. So they'll just gonna stay as they are.

tl;dr: I think I'll not gonna touch sprint and acceleration ever again as they completely screw the game when changed.
 
Madmac79 said:
While trying to find a balance on my own, I changed my mind on one thing.. acceleration needs to stay at 50/50. It gets buggy in a way or another, more or less like it happened the other years touching those stats. Putting me at 49 and cpu at 50 was the worst experience ever with this Fifa 2018.. not only the stamina becomes irrelevant as known but it felt like my stats were nerfed in an horrible, dull way and the cpu became an assassin, winning any contrast and impossible to stop.. it was like old Fifas once again, the excellent variety of the game gone.. and again, in some conditions pace and animations are more than fine even with 50/50, in some others they are flashy even when I put those values down. So they'll just gonna stay as they are.

tl;dr: I think I'll not gonna touch sprint and acceleration ever again as they completely screw the game when changed.
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Do you feel as if changing that also adds a bit of input lag?
 
Placebo said:
Playing the journey today and loving it, game plays great, team identity is fantastic, I'm on chapter 5 playing as DW at Newcastle, had matches against Arsenal and West Brom and they were fantastic, both played very true to life.

Edit: Err spoiler tags seem to be broken?
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Did Arsenal played their possession game with having +60% of it?
 
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