FIFA 15 News & Discussion Thread

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Kunio_Kun said:
Players have no weight in Fifa 13 at all..That's why it's too fluid..Instant turns, instant reactions,sliding on the pithc etc..No thanks..Fifa 13 was the worst Fifa in the last gen..I hope we never see this kind of game again..
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In fifa 14 ng players still move like they are above the field, and it's hard for me to enjoy a game like that.
 
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Thats the problem with all the games to me.

Fifa = Focus on everything outside of the actual pitch and men/feel gameplay which comes last with attention

PES = Pure focus on men/pitch and feel and gameplay ignoring things outside of it too much.

Ive said this elsewhere if you can get a happy medium of pes on the pitch/anims/physics and controls and merge it with everything Fifa has outside the pitch it would be the best game.

Like posted above, you never saw NG come and then "feel"/see a complete new difference to players/controls/movement .. that simulated weighted feel and look of real players in FIFA it was just CG with outer things added to it (eye candy). I cant see so far that this is happened even into another year on NG either going by the leaked vids.

The game(s) exists purely because of controlling players and having a game of actual football but Fifa seem to not work that right and get lost in everything else thats for me why I switched to PES, and forgot about the surrounding modes and fluff, I havent missed it that much either to be honest as much as I thought. Just want to get on a pitch and feel as close as controlling a game of footy as possible on a controller/PC and (for me) PES satisfies this.

I said this another place too when it comes to the feel and control/anims of the actual on the pitch game in comparison of a skate game ..

FIFA = Tony Hawks Series
PES = Skate/2/3
 
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PES' on pitch anims/physics are woeful, definitely do not want to see them in a game I'm playing thank you very much!
 
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Good for you. Enjoy your PES and leave us on the dark side enjoying our inferior football game.
 
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pesmonkey2013 said:
Fifa = Focus on everything outside of the actual pitch and men/feel gameplay which comes last with attention
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Sometimes it can feel like guys in here are talking about FIFA from 2004, not 2014. To say that the focus has been on everything non-gameplay related is absolutely ridiculous.

In reality, it's been quite the opposite: gameplay systems have received almost all the attention in recent years, whereas the team management system, game modes (aside from UT, which is it's own beast), and graphics have received only minor upgrades.
 
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Good for you. Enjoy your PES and leave us on the dark side enjoying our inferior football game.
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Oh FFS another Touchy fifa thread where no one can distinguish logical comparisons and non hate for both sides and still get lampooned like a fifa hater or pes lover. I came to pes from fifa 12/13/14 and released a few mods for fifa too, so you might be reading my posts wrong.

PES' on pitch anims/physics are woeful, definitely do not want to see them in a game I'm playing thank you very much!
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And fifas animations and speed are 'close' to real life and have become closer? I would say the anims in PES are like NBA2K to basketball in many ways, but again its a taste thing and of course we will never find a happy medium, just wish Fifa would do more in terms of fluid look and feel. Anim transitions seem too quick & snappy, things seem a little ridged and if you watch pes and simply watch the ball only for a few hours, then goto fifa and watch the ball only its interesting to see what you dont notice right away about its trajectory and behaviour (compared to real life ball behaviour).

BTW Im talking in terms of what I see on a TV not game to game comparisons or "what I expect in a computer game" if you get me. I feel PES overall when you run an AI V AI game on broadcast cam at -1 speed resembles more to TV than fifa at this current time.

Sometimes it can feel like guys in here are talking about FIFA from 2004, not 2014. To say that the focus has been on everything non-gameplay related is absolutely ridiculous.
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Is it? When fifa went from current gen to next gen, at what stage were you blown away from the complete overhaul and upgrade to the next gen look and feel of the players on the pitch, honestly, was it a next gen leap in progression compared to prior releases? They are micro step changes/teaks over each release I experienced this from Fifa 12-14 and when I saw the next gen 14 consoles and the leaked 15 footage, nothing shows me this has been dealt with like they deal with UI/soundtrack licences faces / FUT / Online modes .. and thats what I meant.

There is just "something" about fifa controlling and the way the move and overall speed of the play that just (for me) doesn't quite sit right and hasn't come on far considering its next generation and doesn't warrent a next gen name against that aspect of it. If it did, guess what, I would be buying it.

I dont hate either one, its just that i moved into something for more satisfaction hoping the latter would jump back out at me with new improvements on what I like and it just hasnt. No need for side taking or anything else. I guess as I have been all "pes'd up" :) this last year and then I took a peak at fifa15 and saw the on pitch speed/anims etc .. I just had that .. "oh, ok, so its like 14 then in that dept, but things around it are updated clearly".
 
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Nobleknight said:
Good for you. Enjoy your PES and leave us on the dark side enjoying our inferior football game.
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Pes is probably just as bad as Fifa atm.

None of the Two really gave me real satisfaction.

I liked Fifa ng at the beginning, but I got bored of it really quickly. I may be contradcting myself here, but maybe Fifa is not actually bad as a game, maybe it's simply because it doesn't "fit" to what I think a football game should be, it's just my personal view.

Pes, on the othe hand, sucks hard for me atm (2014) not because I can get bored of it after some matchs, but because it's easily the most frustrating game I have ever played.

Right now I have very low expetacions for both, but despite the fact that EA is much more competent to produce a game that feels polished and well done than than konami, I tend to give more attention to Pes because I personaly Think that a just playable PES can offer a more adicting gameplayed than a very polished Fifa product from EA.

Currently, Pes is not even playable based on my own experiences. Just don't assume that just because I don't like how Fifa plays, that means that I'm suggesting that Pes is some kind of "the definitive game of football" you know

Sorry if I caused any trouble here, the Last thing I wanted to make here is a Pes vs Fifa war.
 
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pesmonkey2013 said:
Is it? When fifa went from current gen to next gen, at what stage were you blown away from the complete overhaul and upgrade to the next gen look and feel of the players on the pitch, honestly, was it a next gen leap in progression compared to prior releases? They are micro step changes/teaks over each release I experienced this from Fifa 12-14 and when I saw the next gen 14 consoles and the leaked 15 footage, nothing shows me this has been dealt with like they deal with UI/soundtrack licences faces / FUT / Online modes .. and thats what I meant.
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Well now you're just defending your previous statement by talking about something else entirely. And you criticize others for their use of logic...

Regarding whether the focus is not on gameplay (your original argument), go back and look at the last five years or so and the biggest changes to the game have NOT been UI/soundtrack/licences/or online modes. That's just absurd. The biggest changes have been things like the impact engine, attacking AI, the new player inertia system (which any long-time FIFA player would surely agree is a major change for how the game plays), dribbling, defending (for better and worse), etc.

Whether the next gen leap and yearly updates are enough, that's an entirely different debate and one that's going to be purely up to personal expectations. I'd argue that nothing so far next gen has blown me away, and by that standard next gen FIFA has been a very solid first year next gen game. And though it might have some serious deficiencies, it's also a pretty big improvement over old gen FIFA 14, both in terms of graphics and gameplay.
 
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Apparently FIFA15 players will use the Heart/Emotion and it will effect they way they play. I read in game mag that if you are winning and get fouled in the 89th minute the player will just get up and shake hands but if you are losing he will get up and get pissed off and start shoving the player. So may be they are knicking some of PES stuff or just implementing it better. Will will have to see.
 
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Well now you're just defending your previous statement by talking about something else entirely. And you criticize others for their use of logic...
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Not really, point always was focus is more "around" on the pitch than the anims and flow on the pitch, and so, they haven't made much of a leap for next gen and so that's my point, was my point about pes comparison, all the other features you mention are fine and a given but the way it feels and looks with my example hasn't progressed, my point again. Also I welcomed the inertia in 14 and was impressed, until I played Pes2014 and realised that was inertia, I had nothing to compare it too until then.

So if you want to get me on "nothing is done" then fine, I explained it wrong, I meant nothing much has progressed to it looking more real and feeling as such (a "next gen" badge award for any game). Thats what I wanted to see when next gen was announced with all the waffle about new levels of AI thought and animations, but in the end it looked like 14CG play and didnt meet the claim. I dont see it in 15 leaks either which is a shame. Yet they make that great pitch idea (but will not effect ball) and will no doubt update modes and other such things with plenty of focus.

To me its like showing off a car race game with road textures and skid marks full dynamic and everything else, plus new gear and steering options but the driving physics are still the same.

Maybe in the end thats fifa's style and market, and maybe in the end as an older player I want something else and PES will just be it I guess which I found out later on. I always keep looking back at both to see though.
 
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I don't believe that any of them have done a true NG game yet and we have a couple of years before it comes. It seems that the little pretty things are getting done but game play is the major issue. Online is just a fucking nightmare, played last night and just had some silly twat spamming the over the top chip pass. So i haven't missed playing that. I believe the more and better realistic animations will make for a better game experience.
 
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I agree that none of the two games get off lightly and room for improvement for all concerned for sure.

That was another thing with Fifa with online I enjoyed it in 12/13 for playing on a team and some of the other modes. They never expanded on the team mode and actually lessened it in 14 which put pay for me playing the only mode I really enjoyed. I became infuriated with the other modes because you had to stick to the default speed of fifa and the spammers/afro midgets/cheap stat taking quitters/ball hoggers scoring own goal cut scene spamming ... drove me insane.

I ended up at the point of 14 to completely ignore it as an online game and that further made it less appealing. I dont think PES is super fantastic in that dept, but I am pretty much an offline player anwyay.

I always wanted the "lock to player" feature in competition mode (as you got with career mode) and asked for it 2 years in a row on official places but nothing was done.

Am I right that as with next gen 14, fifa15 also has excluded competition modes? I may be wrong of course on this part.
 
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temporaomores said:
Hmm, but now players like Messi get stuck on the field. Plus AI pressuring all the time doesn't help either.
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Hey Info, its GiftedFingersXavi here. What a coincidence. :WORSHIP: Anyway, keep up the great work. FIFA13 was more balanced than FIFA14 in truth.
 
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@PESMONKEY ermmm Fifamonkey :) the only said thing about your situation that u started to play PES now and you think this standard of the game is good. Have you played any PES back from the PS2,PSX era? From the golden age? You wouldnt think PES is any good nowdays mate. :)

Todays FIFA is more like PES from back then. Thats why so many PES gamer go and play FIFA instead nowdays.
 
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gabe.paul.logan said:
@PESMONKEY ermmm Fifamonkey :) the only said thing about your situation that u started to play PES now and you think this standard of the game is good. Have you played any PES back from the PS2,PSX era? From the golden age? You wouldnt think PES is any good nowdays mate. :)

Todays FIFA is more like PES from back then. Thats why so many PES gamer go and play FIFA instead nowdays.
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Well, PES 5 was a brilliant game, but it's not a realistic football simulation by today's standards anymore. Same goes for FIFA.
 
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gabe.paul.logan said:
Todays FIFA is more like PES from back then. Thats why so many PES gamer go and play FIFA instead nowdays.
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Disagree in both statemets.

Fifa nowdays is not close to what pes was in old good days. Pes 1-5 had individuality, momentum, inertia and passion (or football soul). Fifa still can't achive these elements.

...and why pes gamers now play FIFA is because KONAMI can't deliver what they had achieved.

PES for me is the last chance for football fans to play a decent football game. But i have no faith in their technical skills.
 
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cowden_harley said:
Fifa needs to have nets that look and react like the World Cup ones.

Theyre superb!

Yes im a net freak
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This is it!!!

Hate EAS nets/goals. I don't know why but it looks weird. Always PES is winning that battle between these two games if I mean about how the goal basically looks like.

I hope EA change that fu.ing horrible goals and its texture of netting. :SHOCK:
 
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broxopios said:
Disagree in both statemets.

Fifa nowdays is not close to what pes was in old good days. Pes 1-5 had individuality, momentum, inertia and passion (or football soul). Fifa still can't achive these elements.

...and why pes gamers now play FIFA is because KONAMI can't deliver what they had achieved.

PES for me is the last chance for football fans to play a decent football game. But i have no faith in their technical skills.
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both are scripted bullshit imo. even in player-player matches, no matter what else say i played around 600 matches already with it and its there in some ways. at least EA can deliver a quality game, so why should i choose PES again?

and yes Fifa14 is the closest thing to the old PES feeling;
- you have to play like in real football
- the feeling that everything can happen on the pitch

this what the old PES was about, i think you are overreacting a bit, you should play with old PES games now to see only your memories make those game perfect and inertia and such things in it ? LOL. they were great games back then no doubt but very arcade but fun, balanced games without scripting and heart a chemistry bullshits (but they are very dated games you would really need time to adapt the gameplay to enjoy today).

thats why they were so good. FIFA could be that good without so many bullshits implemented in it. as for PES wihout so many bullshits it still would be a broken piece of unprofessional shit.

and im talking current gen titles.


so im eager to see how will both games deliver in 15. so far FIFA is more promising for me because already better than PES
 
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new move in fifa15 or bug?

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gabe.paul.logan said:
both are scripted bullshit imo. even in player-player matches, no matter what else say i played around 600 matches already with it and its there in some ways. at least EA can deliver a quality game, so why should i choose PES again?

and yes Fifa14 is the closest thing to the old PES feeling;
- you have to play like in real football
- the feeling that everything can happen on the pitch

this what the old PES was about, i think you are overreacting a bit, you should play with old PES games now to see only your memories make those game perfect and inertia and such things in it ? LOL. they were great games back then no doubt but very arcade but fun, balanced games without scripting and heart a chemistry bullshits (but they are very dated games you would really need time to adapt the gameplay to enjoy today).

thats why they were so good. FIFA could be that good without so many bullshits implemented in it. as for PES wihout so many bullshits it still would be a broken piece of unprofessional shit.

and im talking current gen titles.


so im eager to see how will both games deliver in 15. so far FIFA is more promising for me because already better than PES
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Yeah i agree. Both games are scripted and not good enough. But i prefer fifa to pes these days only because i find it more fun to play and also it's the only playable football game.

However if pes or another football title offer the fundamental elements right, fifa probably would have the same outcome as nba live.
 
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gabe.paul.logan said:
@PESMONKEY ermmm Fifamonkey :) the only said thing about your situation that u started to play PES now and you think this standard of the game is good. Have you played any PES back from the PS2,PSX era? From the golden age? You wouldnt think PES is any good nowdays mate. :)

Todays FIFA is more like PES from back then. Thats why so many PES gamer go and play FIFA instead nowdays.
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You havent read my posts very well and are just picking holes because I mentioned pes, comparing history when I am talking about current versions is pointless, as If im going to now play all the older games in order to decide if I dont enjoy what I enjoy now?? BTW If you think about it, I am not tarnished by the history of PES and came from Fifa 12/13/14 so in some respects thats a more balanced view don't you think, in terms of current time? I dont care about who plays what and what games fan base is whoes or anything else, all have good and ba points and my point was about on the pitch physics and anims/speed, not the overall fan base and game hate, the past is the past.
 
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i havent read your comments at all. just looks a sad story that you changed FIFA to PES !NOW!. sure refreshing feeling probably but its just the worst time in my opinion....and maybe you think the same about my move dunno xD
 
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There I was thinking there might be some new FIFA 15 info and all I see is the same old PES v FIFA bollocks. Boring. Been done to death. Move on... or at least bugger off to the relevant thread. Every bloody year it's the same crap. Just copy and paste last years convo in here and be done with it.
 
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PU6HY said:
There I was thinking there might be some new FIFA 15 info and all I see is the same old PES v FIFA bollocks. Boring. Been done to death. Move on... or at least bugger off to the relevant thread. Every bloody year it's the same crap. Just copy and paste last years convo in here and be done with it.
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I agree
 
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*aLe said:
It doesn't look like belonging to a videogame to me...
Real life GK wanting to have a laugh, more probably. :P
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its from Germanys last world cup game a few days ago
 
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gabe.paul.logan said:
i havent read your comments at all. just looks a sad story that you changed FIFA to PES !NOW!. sure refreshing feeling probably but its just the worst time in my opinion....and maybe you think the same about my move dunno xD
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Its always worth in a thread actually reading the comments, thats how it works :) Interesting end to that post, why would i think the same as yourself? If you are into Fifa currently good job I hope you enjoying it mate. IM certainly interested in what does come later rather than just the leaked clip, nothing sad about anything.

There I was thinking there might be some new FIFA 15 info and all I see is the same old PES v FIFA bollocks. Boring. Been done to death. Move on... or at least bugger off to the relevant thread. Every bloody year it's the same crap. Just copy and paste last years convo in here and be done with it.
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Hmmm, having no other example to speak about how fifa hasn't come forward with its animations and flow (my posts relating to "fifa" and the leaked footage of 15) and if it did I would be into it big time this year (again "fifa") .. then thats your assumption that I posted some game vs game kiddy flame shite, which I didnt, if you read my posts of course. My posts are about what was disappointing and wanting to see better (same balance I post in pes threads).. again in the game thats is what this thread is about.

No one did answer one of my questions (about "fifa") and that was the competitions modes being removed in last NG version, doubt much news yet about 15 though. BTW new fifa info is probably going to come from fifa before here :)
 
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