FIFA 12 Discussion Thread

Ajaxkevi said:
Probably your crossing is still set on manual. If you're not used to that you should try semi ;).

As for youth. Form plays a role in it. If your 25 year old is getting high grades he may get improved. Are you playing your 18 year old regurarly, what's his form and morale? Could also be he has nearly reached his potential, thus grows more slowly. Is this a scouted player or a 'real' one?
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Thanks for help - he is a 'real' player: Ravel Morrison at Man United. Have played him at least 10 times - though mostly as a sub. Maybe that's the problem, but seen other players improving even just on the bench (youth goalkeeper for example)

Seems odd that you can't see it somewhere.
 
Anyone feels that on professional the CPU always seems to cross way wide out straight away? Not sure whether it's my sliders though but shldnt be..
 
Hi
First post on Evo Web and its in the Fifa section!

Im a long time PES fan until the release of PES11 so went back to PES10.
I bought PES12 and after a few games ended up trading it for Fifa12.

Anyways - really enjoying it and bearing in mind that the last time I played Fifa was on the PS1 it has come on leaps and bounds.

Ive decided to be the manager of Newcastle and have got rid of the rubbish.
Ive brought in Chelsea duo McCrachen and Lakatu on loan. Purchased Wigan due Figueroa and Rodellaga for £7.5m. Also brought in Beckham (£1m) and Owen (£2.5m)

Played 3 friendlies - won, lost and drawn.

Arsenal await in the first game of the season.

What I like about Fifa is that you put the game in and its all there. No option files and constant mucking around with colours and gameplay settings.
I have got some good sliders from another site so tweaked them a bit and thats it!
 
My mate left his copy of Fifa round mine yesterday so i decided to give it a go in exhibition. To be honest some things struck me instantly.

1) The way players move (flail their limbs about) reminds me of the whacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man from Family Guy.
2) If you decrease acceleration using sliders then it destroys defending because if an attacker is sprinting with the ball then it takes ages for the defender to get up to any real speed. Happened to both me and the CPU. At time they had 5-10 yards on me but were only lightly jogging and i just ran through them with Sessegnon before they could get up to any real speed. It is horrible.
3) A player's first touch is a turn 90% of the time. What this means is that gameplay is sped up because rather than looking to bring the ball under control a player just pushes it in the direction he wants to go (usually towards goal) with instant success in his control.
4) I still don't think AI is up to much. At one point i was running down the wing with Bendtner looking to get a cross in. When i got in line with the 18 yard box I saw Sessegnon making a run and then for no reason he just stopped way outside the box and ran backwards leaving me with absolutely nobody to aim for at all.

It feels like football if it was dreamed up by people who don't like player limitations (body or otherwise) and want fun fun fun over realism for the most part. I was winning 3-0 at HT before i turned it off (10 minute match) and none of my goals felt rewarding either. One goal was a cut back and two were me just running past a crowd of helpless defender's who couldn't cope catch up with me despite having 5-10 yards on me (once using the right stick, the other time not). Before you say up the acceleration again then i have to point out that i can't because i find that the game is so fast (everything, not necessarily just player running speeds) even on slow.

I have a problem with PES 2012 favouring attacking over defending but i find Fifa to be on a whole new level.

As for my slider settings in general. I followed LTFC's preferred set up in the slider thread.
 
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Northzzz said:
My mate left his copy of Fifa round mine yesterday so i decided to give it a go in exhibition. To be honest some things struck me instantly.

1) The way players move (flail their limbs about) reminds me of the whacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man from Family Guy.
2) If you decrease acceleration using sliders then it destroys defending because if an attacker is sprinting with the ball then it takes ages for the defender to get up to any real speed. Happened to both me and the CPU. At time they had 5-10 yards on me but were only lightly jogging and i just ran through them with Sessegnon before they could get up to any real speed. It is horrible.
3) A player's first touch is a turn 90% of the time. What this means is that gameplay is sped up because rather than looking to bring the ball under control a player just pushes it in the direction he wants to go (usually towards goal) with instant success in his control.
4) I still don't think AI is up to much. At one point i was running down the wing with Bendtner looking to get a cross in. When i got in line with the 18 yard box I saw Sessegnon making a run and then for no reason he just stopped way outside the box and ran backwards leaving me with absolutely nobody to aim for at all.

It feels like football if it was dreamed up by people who don't like player limitations (body or otherwise) and want fun fun fun over realism for the most part. I was winning 3-0 at HT before i turned it off (10 minute match) and none of my goals felt rewarding either. One goal was a cut back and two were me just running past a crowd of helpless defender's who couldn't cope catch up with me despite having 5-10 yards on me (once using the right stick, the other time not). Before you say up the acceleration again then i have to point out that i can't because i find that the game is so fast (everything, not necessarily just player running speeds) even on slow.

I have a problem with PES 2012 favouring attacking over defending but i find Fifa to be on a whole new level.

As for my slider settings in general. I followed LTFC's preferred set up in the slider thread.
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Sounds like you played on semi-pro?

Well if not PRo and you are very good? 3-0 at half time with sunderland? versus who?

ON higher difficulties or modded sliders scorign goals feels rewarding especially agaisnt good oppponents as they are not easy to score.

Same coudl be said for any game put Pes on easy and score goals= no feeling.

Put cod on easy and kill all the bad guys.

Yuo cant judge a game if nots on a level challenging for you
 
pes4lyfe said:
Sounds like you played on semi-pro?

Well if not PRo and you are very good? 3-0 at half time with sunderland? versus who?

ON higher difficulties or modded sliders scorign goals feels rewarding especially agaisnt good oppponents as they are not easy to score.

Same coudl be said for any game put Pes on easy and score goals= no feeling.

Put cod on easy and kill all the bad guys.

Yuo cant judge a game if nots on a level challenging for you
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I just checked and it must have been on World Class as i haven't altered anything since this morning. I'm quite surprised about that because i was questioning earlier what level it was on. It was against Wigan though. It wasn't my first ever game either. I played a couple of matches a few weeks ago when i started a career mode. The points i made in 1-4 are things i noticed before too. I don't think they themselves really have much to do with how challenging the game is or isn't.
 
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fair enough I notice a lot of cons and bad stuff in PES and FIFA.

I guess we neeed to decide what we can get by on and what we can enjoy.
 
Sorry if this issue has been already discussed..

I'm a little bit concerned after reading this on another forum about the abnormal growth of players physical attributes in career mode:
"" They grow entirely fast and to easy I'm in my 3rd or 4th season with valencia and more then the max players that can be searched, i think its 150 have 95+ sprint speed and 95+ acceleration. Its absolutely ridiculous. Its takes away the specialty of being fast. Its not a specialty if everyone else is too. ""

May anyone confirm this issue (maybe a bug) in career mode?
 
It's been covered before yes. The issue has been raised with EA and specifically Simon Humber which he confirmed via Twitter (I may or may not have posted the "conversation" history with him regarding it on here).
 
Northzzz said:
As for my slider settings in general. I followed LTFC's preferred set up in the slider thread.
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Well to be fair I did also state my findings with my slider settings, and complained that the AI defence for some reason does fail to tackle when you lower it a certain amount. Try setting acceleration and speed as the same, and lower them just a bit to 47 or so. Works fine after that. You can even lower sprint speed to 44 or so and keep acceleration at 47, slows players down still and doesn't seem to come with the 'non tackling' issue.
 
I'm keeping both CPU speed and acceleration at 47. Both user at 48. I'm finding realistic and fair games very much.

Just curious, what dyou guys have your runs frequency on? Mine's on 65, might just raise it to 67-68.
 
Rooney10 said:
I'm keeping both CPU speed and acceleration at 47. Both user at 48. I'm finding realistic and fair games very much.

Just curious, what dyou guys have your runs frequency on? Mine's on 65, might just raise it to 67-68.
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80 i think?

I had 100 but I read somewhere something weird happens if you go above 80. cant remember what though?
 
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FYI: Big patch coming for #FIFA12. Working at putting all the details together now. Live on PC. With MS/Sony now for testing.
 
After 4 weeks of playing this ... (i cant say its a game) ... i stopped. I cant believe how fu**ed up fifa 12 is. Ok you can say its great game etc. - but for this is most non-realistic game ever made, e.g.:
- I lose mostly (even when I practice Im not better): I can Play Barca-Osasuna and lose 0-2, this is crazy;
- On professional level which is still very hard CPU dont shoot from outside gole field and CPU players dribble me like every one is Messi;
- this game is only nice in menu, graphic, sound, etc. but - this is my opinion - gameplay is terrible and I can say that new games are going worst all the time - fifa or pes 2018 will be totally f**ked up!!
 
Currently the manager of Newcastle - sold all the deadwood and brought in some good players. Lakatu & McCrachen on loan from Chelsea. Bought Beckham, Owen, Aimar, Jagielka, Figurea & Rodellaga
I just cant stop conceeding late goals. Ive currently played 5 w1, d1, l3 and all my loses have come from goals in 90th minute.
Im playing on Pro which may be a bit high but I find that semi-pro is too easy.
 
michael4321 said:
After 4 weeks of playing this ... (i cant say its a game) ... i stopped. I cant believe how fu**ed up fifa 12 is. Ok you can say its great game etc. - but for this is most non-realistic game ever made, e.g.:
- I lose mostly (even when I practice Im not better): I can Play Barca-Osasuna and lose 0-2, this is crazy;
- On professional level which is still very hard CPU dont shoot from outside gole field and CPU players dribble me like every one is Messi;
- this game is only nice in menu, graphic, sound, etc. but - this is my opinion - gameplay is terrible and I can say that new games are going worst all the time - fifa or pes 2018 will be totally f**ked up!!
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I´m starting to agree with you. I played PES till pes 2011, I don´t likePES 2012 a lot and I decided to buy FIFA 12.
Well, It´s ok, but something is wrong with this game that, despite its graphic and players movement, I´m not enjoying it a lot. Modifying the sliders may help but the game doesn´t fulfill my desire to play over and over again.
 
michael4321 said:
After 4 weeks of playing this ... (i cant say its a game) ... i stopped. I cant believe how fu**ed up fifa 12 is. Ok you can say its great game etc. - but for this is most non-realistic game ever made, e.g.:
- I lose mostly (even when I practice Im not better): I can Play Barca-Osasuna and lose 0-2, this is crazy;
- On professional level which is still very hard CPU dont shoot from outside gole field and CPU players dribble me like every one is Messi;
- this game is only nice in menu, graphic, sound, etc. but - this is my opinion - gameplay is terrible and I can say that new games are going worst all the time - fifa or pes 2018 will be totally f**ked up!!
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juliovodoo said:
I´m starting to agree with you. I played PES till pes 2011, I don´t likePES 2012 a lot and I decided to buy FIFA 12.
Well, It´s ok, but something is wrong with this game that, despite its graphic and players movement, I´m not enjoying it a lot. Modifying the sliders may help but the game doesn´t fulfill my desire to play over and over again.
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Sounds like you or at least 1st guy never modded lsiders.
I had same issues until I got my sliders improved.
 
pes4lyfe said:
Sounds like you or at least 1st guy never modded lsiders.
I had same issues until I got my sliders improved.
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I really would like to test your settings but I didn´t do it yet.
Everytime I modify the sliders I feel that I´m "cheating" what I don´t like. I have custom modified sliders playing in world class and althoguh I´m near to my perfect sliders for me gamplay style I think I have to check "something not to win 4-0 in the first 30 min or not to loose being desperated.
 
juliovodoo said:
I really would like to test your settings but I didn´t do it yet.
Everytime I modify the sliders I feel that I´m "cheating" what I don´t like. I have custom modified sliders playing in world class and althoguh I´m near to my perfect sliders for me gamplay style I think I have to check "something not to win 4-0 in the first 30 min or not to loose being desperated.
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Ive edited my sliders again.

TBH its a personal thing. And not cheating. I change certain aspects to improve gameplay.

Eg. increase run freuqncy for me and CPU means we both have more attacking options.

I decrease marking off CPU so I get a bit more time on ball and space.

I increase shot power to make long range shooting more possible.

Changing depends on what you want. GAme to fast, CPU to fast? CPu mark to tight, not tight enough, defend to low, defend to high. I play about until I get something

1. I enjoy
2. Has realistic outcomes..eg. results, match stats.
 
pes4lyfe said:
Ive edited my sliders again.

TBH its a personal thing. And not cheating. I change certain aspects to improve gameplay.

Eg. increase run freuqncy for me and CPU means we both have more attacking options.

I decrease marking off CPU so I get a bit more time on ball and space.

I increase shot power to make long range shooting more possible.

Changing depends on what you want. GAme to fast, CPU to fast? CPu mark to tight, not tight enough, defend to low, defend to high. I play about until I get something

1. I enjoy
2. Has realistic outcomes..eg. results, match stats.
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Yes I agree with you in some points except shoting 51 because I think is not so realistic as by default.
I also decreased CPU marking to play a little free and sprint and aceleration is on 52/49 I think is a reasonable difference.
Run frequency is increased for both equal as well as width heigh and other things at the bottom are equal for both.
What I don´t like at all is changing everyday sliders and I would like to stuck on tne ones in the sweet spot for gameplay.
I´m nearer.
By the way, thanks for your commentaries.
 
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juliovodoo said:
Yes I agree with you in some points except shoting 51 because I think is not so realistic as by default.
I also decreased CPU marking to play a little free and sprint and aceleration is on 52/49 I think is a reasonable difference.
Run frequency is increased for both equal as well as width heigh and other things at the bottom are equal for both.
What I don´t like at all is changing everyday sliders and I would like to stuck on tne ones in the sweet spot for gameplay.
I´m nearer.
By the way, thanks for your commentaries.
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Yes I have similar.

Shooting is a bit funny. IMO 51 can be OTT with the power you can do but sometimes very often 50 is underwhelming. When there is a range 0-100 its crazy that 51 can be so OTT compared to 50. I mean why have 50-100? It shoudl just be default or crazy power lol. I mean what the hell is 100 like? Shoot from your own goalline?
 
pes4lyfe said:
Yes I have similar.

Shooting is a bit funny. IMO 51 can be OTT with the power you can do but sometimes very often 50 is underwhelming. When there is a range 0-100 its crazy that 51 can be so OTT compared to 50. I mean why have 50-100? It shoudl just be default or crazy power lol. I mean what the hell is 100 like? Shoot from your own goalline?
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Hahaha yes, 100 may be a rocket or something like that. But with 51 nearly everytime I shot is a goal. But I´m thinking about changing it to 51.
Well, the sliders are ok but there are too many things to be considered when changing these sliders, not the same for professional or world class and not even for normal speed or slow.
With my sliders I score easier on world class on normal speed but on slow It´s a little more difficult. Besides depending on the other team, you may loose 0-3 versus a great top team and next match win 3-0 versus another great top team.
I think EA should have focused on specific level of dificulty in teams and not leave this on sliders configuration because some players even of 2 stars can dribble like Messi.
 
I have it at 51. I prefer 51 to 50 because it gives you that "I could score from anywhere" feeling that PES 5 had. I don't have high scoring games though, with the sliders I'm using shooting chances are hard to come by. Good combination IMHO
 
juliovodoo said:
Hahaha yes, 100 may be a rocket or something like that. But with 51 nearly everytime I shot is a goal. But I´m thinking about changing it to 51.
Well, the sliders are ok but there are too many things to be considered when changing these sliders, not the same for professional or world class and not even for normal speed or slow.
With my sliders I score easier on world class on normal speed but on slow It´s a little more difficult. Besides depending on the other team, you may loose 0-3 versus a great top team and next match win 3-0 versus another great top team.
I think EA should have focused on specific level of dificulty in teams and not leave this on sliders configuration because some players even of 2 stars can dribble like Messi.
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So true. Sliders have to be considred with other variables plus also individual teams.

I for example and starting to win all games to easy on Pro now but if I find world class hard I will need to remodify the sliders.

Another option is to stay on Pro but increase difficulty by increasing CPU marking or increasing CPU speed etc..

StayingPower said:
I have it at 51. I prefer 51 to 50 because it gives you that "I could score from anywhere" feeling that PES 5 had. I don't have high scoring games though, with the sliders I'm using shooting chances are hard to come by. Good combination IMHO
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I agree somewhat. I like having that ''feel''. BUt then again I dont want it to easy. I had it on 52 and 55 and I score 30 yarders every game its silly. 51 still quite easy also but 50 just really lacks any ooomphh!! if you know what I mean. Well its to rare to hit a power long ranger on 50 and many shots feel scraped or miskicked.
 
Although FIFA has everything you want for some reason I'm shit at it. (been playing footie games for nearly 30 years)
I've tried lowering levels, sliders etc but I never feel like I know what I'm doing and never seem to get the best out of my players.
Just bought Aimar but the way I play with him I might as well have bought Jay spearing!
There's something about this game that prevents me from totally loving it.
It's the best game out there without a doubt but for me it's no pes5 or 6.
I will persevere but I'll doubt I'll ever be as good as I was at classic pes
 
Finally got around 6 hours play yesterday and quite enjoying it, playing as mainly Athletico Madrid, Malaga, Valencia and Barca I am not seeing any sort of full back attacking really, without going into some unrealistic over offensive formation is there anything you recommend to get them overlapping?
 
Simply raise the slider for player run frequency to 70. IMO, it's the most realistic point after tweaking and playing around with if for the past month.

Players make realistic runs and I haven't had to use the l1 to trigger runs manually at all. By realistic I mean being intelligent enough to hold their backs against defenders at times too.
 
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