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Fifa 11 Xbox 360/PS3

Robo1979 said:
I'm not being defensive mate I'm just stating facts.

Let's be honest PES has been poor since PES 5/6. Although PES 2011 is a massive improvement it's still lacking in so many areas. It's almost like the PES we should have been given 2 or 3 years ago.

Animations are terrible, the passing is too assisted, the player movements are clunky, the shooting is too assisted, keepers are awful, AI is piss poor... I could continue...
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What the hell? Where does that come from? Have you even played the full version of PES 2011? Animations are pretty decent in PES 2011, they are fluid and seem very realistic. Sure they aren't as many and as varied as in Fifa 11 but it really plays a smooth and responsive game.

The player-movements aren't clunky, it just happens that they have some inertia like real players have, in Fifa 10/11 they are too easy to move around and change direction, as there inertia is missing. In comparison PES 2011 might feel clunky but it's really not, it's that Fifa misses something.

The passing in PES 2011 is similar to Fifa's semi-assissted control with power-assistance off, it feels just right.

The fascinating thing is that short passes are more assisted than longer passes and if you want to go manual you can press L2 and it's manual.

The shooting is indeed assisted but not too assisted, you can direct shots high or low, right or left, volley, lob... it could though be a bit more free.

Keepers are actually very good, they are reliable, the only problem with them is that they need more animations to make them look better while making their saves and parries.

AI is very good, the team-AI is way better than in Fifa 11, realistic and varied. The individual's AI is not as aware as in Fifa but in the full game of PES 2011 it's way better than in the demo. The opponent's CPU-AI in attack at top-player is really challenging, much better than in the demo.

PES 2011 is imho the best PES, better than even my beloved PES 5 and definitely a credible alternative to Fifa 11.
 
WILDSTER180774 said:
I've tried default squads, downloading squads. It makes no difference and just freezes and locks up my ps3. I tried about 10 times then gave up and went to bed very angry. Christ knows what harm it's doing to my ps3. Every year we ask for a FIFA that is relatively bug free. I know there will always be some bugs etc etc, but what EA have once again churned out is a total disgrace. What am I to do if I can't even access the main mode within the game. They didn't give me a free copy, I paid good money for it and am entitled to moan as much as I want. It's ok ppl saying "don't worry they will patch it". Well when will that be? And my trust in them doing anything right is well and truly diminished.
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I have the Xbox 360 version as soon as i hit advance it would freeze and i had to reset my xbox.
I took off the hardrive and disconnected my internet and it worked fine.
I deleted all my downloaded squad and player data and reset the squads to default and it worked.
Good luck.
 
Robo1979 said:
Animations are terrible, the passing is too assisted, the player movements are clunky, the shooting is too assisted, keepers are awful, AI is piss poor... I could continue...
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AI "piss poor" :LOL:. Way to make every single one of your critical remarks invalid.
 
Placebo said:
Hard to get a post noticed these days with all the whinging and bitching and complaining, if Fifa sucks stop playing it...
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Says the bloke who made a huge list "whinging and bitching and complaining" about how much FIFA 10 manager mode sucked...

Please try not to be such a hypocrite...
 
Trying to make some players in creation centre and really dissapointed that there aren't more options for the appearances? made Dennis Bergkamp and Henry, but they look nothing like them and there is nothing I can do to make them look like them. Very frustrating!
 
BobbyBox said:
Trying to make some players in creation centre and really dissapointed that there aren't more options for the appearances? made Dennis Bergkamp and Henry, but they look nothing like them and there is nothing I can do to make them look like them. Very frustrating!
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Can't you do a base copy of the Henry in the game already?
 
Better someone who whines about a game they actually play and enjoy to someone who comes here to tell us how EA does not understand football and how Konami understands football fundamentals. Why not play that and shut up then...
 
Placebo said:
Aren't you thinking of Chris?
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I thought it was you, sorry if I'm mistaken :P.

But you've still complained about aspects of FIFA, particularly Manager Mode, so I think it's a bit rich to flame people who have genuine complaints for expressing them...

Sbu said:
Better someone who whines about a game they actually play and enjoy to someone who comes here to tell us how EA does not understand football and how Konami understands football fundamentals. Why not play that and shut up then...
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So enjoying something makes your opinions on it more valid? Nice logic :LOL:.
 
Placebo said:
Can someone with the UK manual please list the ports that need to be forwarded? I have the Nordic manual and I can't find the list of ports in there.
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Found these ports in a post on another fifa forum:
TCP: 80, 443, 9980-9989, 10000-10500, 42100-42199
UDP: 3659, 6000, 9570, 10500-12500

Even though its not directly from the manual it might be worth a shot....
 
henrys hand said:
What the hell? Where does that come from? Have you even played the full version of PES 2011? Animations are pretty decent in PES 2011, they are fluid and seem very realistic. Sure they aren't as many and as varied as in Fifa 11 but it really plays a smooth and responsive game.

The player-movements aren't clunky, it just happens that they have some inertia like real players have, in Fifa 10/11 they are too easy to move around and change direction, as there inertia is missing. In comparison PES 2011 might feel clunky but it's really not, it's that Fifa misses something.

The player movements are clucky and there are clearly animations missing. If you zoom in to a step over for example you can see the players foot jump insted of a smooth transation and thats just one example i saw last night

The fascinating thing is that short passes are more assisted than longer passes and if you want to go manual you can press L2 and it's manual.

Why not just make a full manual control option rather than having to press 2 buttons

Keepers are actually very good, they are reliable, the only problem with them is that they need more animations to make them look better while making their saves and parries.

Mate the keepers are awful. Ive seen it on a several occasions where they dive with two hands and the ball just goes through them. Its so frustrating.
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And yes I have the full version
 
Rob92 said:
I thought it was you, sorry if I'm mistaken :P.

But you've still complained about aspects of FIFA, particularly Manager Mode, so I think it's a bit rich to flame people who have genuine complaints for expressing them...

So enjoying something makes your opinions on it more valid? Nice logic :LOL:.
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Which game do you prefer between FIFA 11 and PES 2011?
 
hitmanuk said:
The player movements are clucky and there are clearly animations missing. If you zoom in to a step over for example you can see the players foot jump insted of a smooth transation and thats just one example i saw last night
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From widecam I saw no such things or anything that wasn't smooth as butter. Maybe if I zoomed in and analysed the moves I could spot problems, but for me in actual play I have zero problems with the animation... no comparison to PES 2010.

hitmanuk said:
Why not just make a full manual control option rather than having to press 2 buttons
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I agree, there should be an additional option to play it fully manual without pressing L2. But it should be additional cause it's also nice to play semiassisted and when wished for a special pass or whatever to bring in manual with a single button.

hitmanuk said:
Mate the keepers are awful. Ive seen it on a several occasions where they dive with two hands and the ball just goes through them. Its so frustrating.
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That's bad, but for me never anything like that happened, there was never a situation where a goal happened because of the keeper's mistake or because of a bug like that, they parry a bit too much but always out of danger, and they even come out of the box when needed, for me they are very reliable. The only thing is that some of their movements don't look good, they could definitely use some good and more animations.



hitmanuk said:
And yes I have the full version
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Which platform do you play the full version of PES 2011 on? For me on xbox360 it plays like a charm, only some bugs like the jog-bug and greenzone-bug need to be ironed out. It would be also nice if the referee would let advantage be played more often, but other than that, it's great.
 
Treetopp said:
Found these ports in a post on another fifa forum:
TCP: 80, 443, 9980-9989, 10000-10500, 42100-42199
UDP: 3659, 6000, 9570, 10500-12500

Even though its not directly from the manual it might be worth a shot....
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Thanks for that I'll check them against the ones I already tried (without success) :)
 
klashman69 said:
Hi, sorry nothing against you and all, you a very good member here but from your negativity leading up to release, i don't see why you even bothered with this game?

You must of know if the demo wasn't good for you, don't buy?

I mean, i knew you would return this game in disgust way back months ago, why go through he motions :LOL: ?
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I've been enjoying it today :LOL: My internet is terrible on Sundays and the reactions were horrible, (even in 1v1 manual matches). Been playing today on my day off and seems a lot better :)

http://www.ea.com/uk/football/videos/ugc/40086592

Scored that in my most recent game :LOVE:
 
Rob92 said:
So enjoying something makes your opinions on it more valid? Nice logic :LOL:.
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Seems to when you're talking about PES 2011 :) (which is equally flawed by the way, it's just because Fifa has been so disappointing and PES has actually improved very, very slightly).
 
Weird bug.

Changing a player's boots in edit mode lowered that player's overall stats.

Fabio dropped to 72 when I gave him some Nike boots.
Changed Valencia's boots to another pair of adidad preds aand his stats dropped by 1 point.
 
jimbo69 said:
Weird bug.

Changing a player's boots in edit mode lowered that player's overall stats.

Fabio dropped to 72 when I gave him some Nike boots.
Changed Valencia's boots to another pair of adidad preds aand his stats dropped by 1 point.
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That happened to me in real life, i swear a pair of Nike's made me shit, either that or i became unfit and too old.... probably the shoes though.
 
jimbo69 said:
Weird bug.

Changing a player's boots in edit mode lowered that player's overall stats.

Fabio dropped to 72 when I gave him some Nike boots.
Changed Valencia's boots to another pair of adidad preds aand his stats dropped by 1 point.
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Bit of a guess, but I wonder if their position changed when you saved it. Even if you didn't edit his position specifically, it could still change because of the messed up way they record positions this year (I think it's related to Virtual Pro). If so, that would recalculate the overall based on position.
 
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