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Sounds like you can't be placed on the bench (subbed in or out) in the BAP mode of Career Mode. Actually it sounds just as unrealistic as BAP:Seasons, he didn't play well pre season and still got to start the first game as a newcomer? No reserve team, he had to sim games if he wasn't in the starting line-up? Sounds shit to me.

Seems like I will have to get my BAP fix in PES 2011, they've got a much more realistic approach in their mode.
 
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@EAUK_FIFA When does my ban get lifted please?

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@Placebo_obecalP I'll keep it to a 7 day timeout rather than a ban, please don't do it again!

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@EAUK_FIFA I still feel it was completely unfair & not handled well but when you have the admin power there's little else I can do is there?

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@EAUK_FIFA how come those who mirrored it onto Youtube were not banned/edited?
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@Placebo_obecalP YouTube is a different entity entirely and counts as syndication, direct download links are a different ball game

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@Placebo_obecalP I've unbanned you though, my reaction was a little too harsh I admit

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@EAUK_FIFA Okies thanks for the explanation, I will not post direct links on the EA forums again, and thanks for the early reprieve :)

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@EAUK_FIFA on a more pleasant note, good 2nd part on CM, 1 question when you loaned a player out did appropriate teams try to loan him?

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@Placebo_obecalP Yep, had some Championship / Div 1 teams come in for my Man U youngsters.
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Updated the ban saga and added some great news for us MM/CM fans! :)
 
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FIFA 11 : Digging Deeper into Career Mode
Phil Wride delves deeper into FIFA 11 Career Mode; Could he be the next up and coming manager to shine?

Following the great reception for the first article about the FIFA 11 Career Mode I thought I may as well look to write this second one to add a bit more detail and talk around some of the other areas of the mode I only briefly touched on last time. Having now spent a bit more time with it I have finally started to get to grips with some of the ins and outs but that doesn’t mean I’ve mastered it by any means.

The first article started with a look at a Player-Manager career and I want to carry this on before I jump into the Player Career. So I managed to take Man Utd to FA Cup victory but only managed a 5th place finish in the league after simming all the matches to get through the season. Whilst there wasn’t a celebration or cutscene for winning the FA Cup what happened at the end of the season was quite interesting. I got a few emails from the board stating that they weren’t very happy with my performance during the season as I hadn’t met the objectives they set me (Top 4 finish). They did however offer me a contract extension on the basis that I had showed some potential and that hopefully what I had learnt from the first season would put me in with a chance for Season 2. The contract was offered and surprisingly I was also offered a contract offer by Man City at the same time. Tough choice being a Man Utd fan so I opted to stay where I was to see if I could build on my FA Cup victory from the first season. One thing I did notice as soon as I started the new season though (or rather the summer transfer period) was that my reputation had dropped down a bit and I was still a half-star manager. Looks like my failure to meet the board objectives for the first season have tarnished my reputation.

In the forums there have been some questions about transfers, training, player growth and a whole bunch of other things. To try and answer some of these here is what I experienced whilst playing; West Ham sold Matthew Upson to Sunderland and then made a bid on Paul Scholes when I put him on the market. I loaned some of my youth players out and you have the option to set for a 3 month loan or a season long loan. You can also cancel a loan if you want to bring them back at any stage but there is a penalty fee attached if you bring them back early. In the build that I am playing there doesn’t look to be an option to offer cash and a player or do a player exchange when negotiating to buy a player. There is a plus side though with the two-tiered transfer system, you can now be outbid and “sniped” when making transfers. Given that you have to first get the club to accept a bid and then discuss terms with the player the club could accept two bids and you could still lose the player if they accept personal terms from a rival.

Player growth does happen, I had a series of emails from the coach telling me that a player had improved, and those that were getting older were losing their overall rating (Giggs went down by a point over the course of the season). I also got emails telling me that a player had hit form and suggesting that I should include them in my line-up for the next match or give them a bit more responsibility. On the player growth screen you actually get comments from the coach like “Has reached his potential, isn’t going to grown anymore” or “could develop quickly if given game time”.

Given that this is completely new code and doesn’t borrow from FIFA 10 there are a couple of things that have been stripped to ensure that this fresh start for Career Mode lives up to expectations. For now there are no training options, or those to improve your stadium, negotiator, coaches etc. One of the new elements when it comes to budget and transfers though is the “Budget Allocator”, you can change the proportion of your budget allocated to transfer fees and to player wages based on a sliding scale. So I may start with a 80/20 split with £50 Million to spend and £200K wage budget, change the slider to 60/40 and that may be £40 Million to spend and £250K wage budget. This gives some flexibility if you are trying to buy specific players but haven’t got the wages to cover it, or don’t need the wages and want a bit more free cash. There is a limit however, when doing this you get the notification this is only available 3 times so you need to make your decisions wisely.

Playing Career Mode as a Player

Having flirted with Player-Manager I thought I better get to grips with what it is like in the Player Mode, what was essentially Be a Pro Seasons in FIFA 10. For this I created my VP, the fantastically named C. Elito and joined Arsenal for a bit of a change. I got the option to take long socks or short socks, shirt tucked or untucked, ankle tape or no ankle tape and a few others when creating my VP and I think I can go back and change them at a later date if I get bored of how he looks.

When I jumped into the friendly matches before the season started I had a 0/8 rating as a “Prospect” and was given the opportunity to play all the matches to show the Manager how good I was. Things didn’t quite go to plan, I managed to get reasonable ratings but didn’t score in any of the matches so my rating stayed at 0/8. I did however get an email from the coach telling me that one of my team mates had been injured in one of the friendly matches along with notification of how long he would be absent for, quite a nice touch I thought.

Moving to the first game of the season I was picked to start against Man Utd playing alongside Fabregas and Co. The game ended in a draw, 1-1, with Fab scoring a penalty I created by bustling my way into the box but overall my performance wasn’t great. After the match I got an email from the Manager letting me know that although I played well I wasn’t yet ready for the limelight and that I wouldn’t be playing the next match. I advanced through the days and had to sim the next match, and the one after that, and the one after that so much like in real life, if you don’t take the opportunities presented with both hands you will spend time on the sidelines watching. I need to make sure that next time I get to play I score a hat-trick and then see what the Manager has to say.

Other bits and pieces

I’ve also dabbled with the pure Manager element of Career Mode and this leans quite heavily to what you experience in Player-Manager however the playing element is a little different. You can still do transfers, select the team, alter the formations and have the board challenges to go against but when playing matches you control the whole team as you did last year. There is also no option to create a player or VP and have them as part of your squad. I guess this is where the line is drawn between the 3 elements of Career Mode. Player Mode you can play as your VP, get accomplishments and develop aiming for individual and international glory whilst Player-Manager you have the stresses and strains of management whilst also being able to develop a VP if you want to. All 3 have playing options in them but they each differ; Player Mode has you playing in the BAP camera mode controlling just your VP or the full team, Player-Manager has you playing in a traditional camera view (although you can change it) and who you control depends on the management decisions you make, put yourself in the starting line-up and you will only control yourself, leave your playing self off the starting 11 and you can control the whole team. As a Manager you control the whole team in the traditional kick-off style.
 
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Loving the new player models, just can't imagine they'll be consistantly this good. I hope the players who haven't been captured don't look too generic and out of place.
 
Is it me or does the photo of Kaka used on the cover not look very much like Kaka?

romagnoli said:
They've removed the staff/stadium sliders, I see.
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They won't be missed. A pointless waste of time in the past.

"I created my VP, the fantastically named C. Elito and joined Arsenal for a bit of a change."
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Another five star team in the exact same division, really branching out there.

"As a Manager you control the whole team in the traditional kick-off style."
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Traditional kick-off style, what does that even mean :P
 
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Haha yep, you sure are mate.

This isnt the first time EA have blocked/banned you from something is it mate?
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Hmm I think it is as far as I remember, I'm usually behaved, somewhat ;)

Rodelero said:
How do you feel Placebo to be put in the same boat, temporarily, as Marty "Ice Hockey" Neale?
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Hmm, that would depend on who he is? :)

Nick Cave said:
Man, been out all day what happened?...
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I got banned from the forums for mirroring a video, then I got unbanned :)
 
Read through the part two, nothing to get me excited, nice to see loans have a had a tweak, shame they are now 3 or 12 months, why not anything from 3 to 12 but at least you can recall them!..

Nothing on playing games as manager mode so as MrBannoBan has said we have no clue on long term injuries yet, I'm still concerned at this to be honest, this has been a major issue for thee years I would have thought we'd have a big promise on this instead we're still fishing..


For now no training options, I assume this means no setting corners up etc and no Cup celebrations this I hope will change with final builds as the cup celebrations were another huge global complaint...

Over all not overly impressed so far with MM, the transfer system seems to be there big push, that and improving the BAP side, to be honest I feel a little short changes as I thought the MM nuts among us would be, I hope I'm wrong and when I get hold of it I find there is more to it...
 
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For now no training options, I assume this means no setting corners up etc and no Cup celebrations this I hope will change with final builds as the cup celebrations were another huge global complaint...
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I assume the set-piece creator will still be there, because it is separate to the MM anyway. Or did you mean choosing who was on posts etc?

I'm also guessing that the lack of trophy celebration was because he simmed the match rather than playing it?
 
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I assume the set-piece creator will still be there, because it is separate to the MM anyway. Or did you mean choosing who was on posts etc?

I'm also guessing that the lack of trophy celebration was because he simmed the match rather than playing it?
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I was thinking of the Set-piece creator to be honest, is this not classed as Training mode as you can play 10 v 10 etc?...

Have I been missing something in FIFA 10... :SHOCK:

And yes I'm hoping that's the case on the celebration front, I'm also hoping these will be far better along with the old injuries bugbear...
 
:lol @ The jagged edges on the close-up Juve shirt. At least we know they're realtime images.

TBH I'll be happy if we get a non-bug riddled career mode. It sounds good enough for me. They've started from scratch basically. Last year was a total misstep and EA know it.

On another issue, they never should have banned Placebo. It's clear Placebo must have irritated them with his harsh but fair comments on their precious game. These comments only serve to push the game in the right direction. They should like it or lump it. We've been waiting for a decent loan system in CM/MM for YEARS.

Finally, man i'm loving the kaka news and scans. It looks fantastic imo. I know it's all rendered but it shows that EA is heading in the right direction regarding player shapes and face scanning. Can't wait to see a vid of the game in motion. I hope they've redone the cutscenes and celbrations otherwise all the hard work they put into the models and faces will be for nothing.

I saw something in the kaka press release that mentioned something about kaka finding pockets of space to play in etc. I hope this means we have more intelligent off the ball movement in Fifa11. It was like playing with a pack of spuds for teammates in Fifa10 at times.
 
Holy shit :lol: i can't believe that is the actual Juve shirt deisgn. Look just like videogame "jaggies". I prefer the new AC Milan shirt though :) *swoon*.

Anyways Patterson should make a celebration where Kaka takes off his shirt and reveals an "I belong to EA" wife-beater ahaha!!

Seriously though I saw in the youtube comments and on EA forums that kids are asking why EA put Kaka and not Ronaldo on the cover.

A. Ronaldo is signed up to PES.
B. EA are promoting a passing and intelligent style of football with this game. You can tell with new cover stars Kaka and Iniesta.
C. Ronaldo is a preening single dad. Kaka is a model citizen.

:)
 
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