Fifa 11 Xbox 360/PS3

Treetopp said:
Regarding that "Be a keeper video": I think I remember somebody saying that the keeper controls feels intuitive, but looking at that video the guy isnt even close to saving anything that is not rolling calmly straight towards him. Is he just shit or is that mode more to the difficult side?
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I was there while VIP2gaming (?) were filming/hogging (:)) ) that booth. They were dicking around a litte. I wouldn't read too much into that. I played as the keeper and you save very easily if you follow the marking on the fllor.
 
WILDSTER180774 said:
Confirmed..in Clubs....you can kick the keeper if he is acting like a tosser. That's not kick in the physical sense btw.
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But we still can't kick tossers in regular Online Team Play who score on their own squad. It's like they're forcing us to play Clubs and I can't stand that **** against cheesers.
 
Nick Cave said:
No, it's down to licences, which is odd seeing as both kits are licenced... :CONFUSE:
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I read somewhere/sometime that each kit is licensed seperately. That means blue-shorts/blue-shirts have their own unique license, and bringing white into the mix requires a new license. Stupid or greedy, I don't know. Both probably.
 
PES ftw, in terms of gameplay vids that have been shot from gamescom that I have seen so far. 180 passing (backheels and cutbacks) in PES has never been an issue for me as much as 90 passing in PES 2008 (PS2), your player catching up wildly to the ball swinging an inside of the foot kick his body going on way and the ball another but always perfectly paced and usually on target.
This video hits the mark for me as far as I'm concerned.
YouTube - PES 2011 gameplay live from gamescom #5
The "manual-ness" of PES on full showing.
I am actually looking forward to a good game. The fight has never been so on between PES and Fifa in a quite a bit of time.
 
Nick Cave said:
YouTube - FIFA 11 - Official Personality Trailer [HD].mp4

Easier on my fingers... :P

Or were you taking the proverbial Coopz... :P
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Cheers mate

I wasn't taking this piss i keep hearing people mention it here but didn't have a clue what it was :)

Edit: I have seen that video as well but didn't know it was to do with that P+ thing, i just thought that video was showing that there is more margin for error in the game now :DOH:
 
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Coopz said:
Cheers mate

I wasn't taking this piss i keep hearing people mention it here but didn't have a clue what it was :)

Edit: I have seen that video as well but didn't know it was to do with that P+ thing, i just thought that video was showing that there is more margin for error in the game now :DOH:
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Well that's theoretically that's what it's supposed to do.
 
Nick Cave said:
Now I'm FIFA:PIRATE: the main thing keeping me here is the full leagues as I play MM over anything else, and I love bringing a lower league team on...
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That's what I'm all about too. You really need to press those guys to add more lower league teams - it can get old always being English teams and for countries with two leagues, it's just not the same experience as starting out in the third or fourth division. (Hell, I'd even be game for fake lower leagues since I probably wouldn't know the difference anyways, but that's just me and certainly not ideal.)

It does sound like they have plans to expand Creation Center's use with CM in the future, so hopefully next year we'll be able to not only create a team but also add our own leagues as well (and hopefully incorporate those created leagues into a greater existing league structure - e.g. attach a created 3rd German league to the first two). You should press them on this too while you're at it, and hey, doing this would take the pressure off them from adding the leagues themselves (lazy bastards!). And since what you create on CC can be shared - I think that's right? - as a community we'd really be able to make some accurate teams, players, and leagues.

Regarding Dark/Light side, what's it going to make me this year since it looks like for the first time in a while (ever?) I could be spending considerable time with both?!

WILDSTER180774 said:
Confirmed..in Clubs....you can kick the keeper if he is acting like a tosser. That's not kick in the physical sense btw.
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You sure? Could've sworn I heard Rutter mention something about a new "I'll kick you in the nuts" animation?! lol

steph_wheeler said:
The "manual-ness" of PES on full showing.
I am actually looking forward to a good game. The fight has never been so on between PES and Fifa in a quite a bit of time.
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I'm right there with you. Might even be more excited for PES this year than FIFA, even if it's the lesser of the two when it comes to "total package."

One thing that is really bugging me though is the ground passing - the passes appear stuck to an invisible grid; they look like they're shot out of a cannon and are on a rigid, narrow line. Likewise, dribbling also appears too rigid and reminds me of a yo-yo. Not something that will ruin the game for me (I can imagine the fanboy rants already) but it's a visual hiccup for me.
 
steph_wheeler said:
This video hits the mark for me as far as I'm concerned.
YouTube - PES 2011 gameplay live from gamescom #5
The "manual-ness" of PES on full showing.
I am actually looking forward to a good game. The fight has never been so on between PES and Fifa in a quite a bit of time.
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It's improved a lot, if only they had tightened up the ball physics; the ball trajectory in Sagna's clearance at 1:22 looked ridiculously off. And there's far too many swerving ground passes, a problem made worst when those passes looked like they were performed by a simple sidefoot tap (this has always been one of my issues with the series anyway, where too often an effortless contact on the ball results in a well-delivered pass)
 
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From watching the be a gk tutorial i'm convinced it's going to be too simple. In a 1v1 situation (like the arena) there is no way a GK should be saving many shots if the attacker is truly intent on scoring. If you've ever been a GK in real life in this situation you'll know it's hard to stop the ball from being put into the back of the net when you've no defenders to help you and the oncoming attacker has a clear shot at the whole net. You can do your best but you can only cover so much of the net. A low shot into the corner would be damn hard to stop and damn easy to score.

At one point it says
Saves - 6
Goals - 3
Misses - 3

6 out of 12 shots resulting in the gk making a save in a direct 1 v 1 situation is way too many for my liking. It suggests GK's are still being overly good like in Fifa 10. If a real GK makes 6 saves in a full 90 minute match then that is usually a good day for him (see getting points on fantasy football for saves :))

It's a bit hard to judge because in the actual matches in the video the defence is doing a good job and often covering in the box. What happens when this doesn't happen and the defensive AI lets you down by moving a cb out of position and letting a through ball through to a striker who is now 1 v 1. That's what i want to know. Will it be easy to save 1v1s?

I know it's a game but if GKs are as good as they are in Fifa 10 then it's going to be annoying again.
 
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Nick Cave said:
I was a dyed in the dyed in the wool, PES fan(boy), well WE mostly but I would never have even dreamed of switching even with my hate of the ML fantasy league structure until the fateful PES2008... :RANT:

It took a month or more to cross to the dark side, for me they are or were two different animals, I think FIFA has moved on a great deal since then and the gap and learning curve between the two has narrowed! All I would say is give it time, a week of even solid playing is not really enough, I'd advise the same for anyone going to PES from FIFA too, you have to stop playing FIFA like PES and visa versa, and this does not happen overnight...

Now I'm FIFA:PIRATE: the main thing keeping me here is the full leagues as I play MM over anything else, and I love bringing a lower league team on...


From the playtime I got FIFA 11 is a step in the right direction, I know some of us more core players were hoping for a leap but it is better, as for the new CM's I'll hopefully find out more next week, hope that helps?...


Edit: the double dye is not a double post I was that much of a fan, I once posted "FIFA sucks ass big time" somewhere I'm sure... :P
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i get what you mean. have no freaking idea why Konami keeps removing things as important as taking control of CPU teams in customised cups. They must have their heads up their asses.

I am seriously considering getting my first Fifa since 1999 or 2000. lol. I'm gna let the videos closer to the release do the talking for Fifa. for now, I'm still pretty surprised by how much they've improved PES back to pre-2008 it seems. Pity they're stupid enough to not follow proper feedback from the community.
 
In the Be A Goalkeeper tutorial, the 'Select Sides' screen is brought up from within the Arena - does this finally mean we'll be able to have more than one outfield player?

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Nice to see it's only taken until 2010 for a playable football game to incorporate nets of a different shape:

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SXFuzz said:
In the Be A Goalkeeper tutorial, the 'Select Sides' screen is brought up from within the Arena - does this finally mean we'll be able to have more than one outfield player?

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Nice to see it's only taken until 2010 for a playable football game to incorporate nets of a different shape:

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:SHOCK: FIFA 98 is back! :WORSHIP:

I loved the nets in that game!
 
Coopz said:
So what should be in the game anyway they are naming as a new "feature"

Tossers
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It is true, their big additions this year, P+ and PP, are really more about fixing weaknesses in the game than innovation. On one hand we can be cynical about it, and we maybe should be to a degree (I've certainly had my moments), but on the other hand you could say that it's a positive from the standpoint that they're trying to address traditional weaknesses in the FIFA franchise, and are at least, hopefully, going in the right direction.

I think EA are really taking a beating this year because they don't have a "wow" feature, something innovative and new under the sun. That's why they're forced to give big names - P+ and PP - to refinements.

What else can they say, "um, yeah, so this year our big gameplay additions are we've improved passing and player individuality." Man they'd get destroyed!

Not sure I'd go as far as calling them tossers though.
 
steph_wheeler said:
PES ftw, in terms of gameplay vids that have been shot from gamescom that I have seen so far. 180 passing (backheels and cutbacks) in PES has never been an issue for me as much as 90 passing in PES 2008 (PS2), your player catching up wildly to the ball swinging an inside of the foot kick his body going on way and the ball another but always perfectly paced and usually on target.
This video hits the mark for me as far as I'm concerned.
YouTube - PES 2011 gameplay live from gamescom #5
The "manual-ness" of PES on full showing.
I am actually looking forward to a good game. The fight has never been so on between PES and Fifa in a quite a bit of time.
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It's ridiculous how much better the lighting is in PES vs. FIFA... and how much of a difference that makes to the overall quality of the presentation on the pitch.

EA really needs to hire the lighting designer away from Konami, looks amazing.
 
Northzzz said:
From watching the be a gk tutorial i'm convinced it's going to be too simple. In a 1v1 situation (like the arena) there is no way a GK should be saving many shots if the attacker is truly intent on scoring. If you've ever been a GK in real life in this situation you'll know it's hard to stop the ball from being put into the back of the net when you've no defenders to help you and the oncoming attacker has a clear shot at the whole net. You can do your best but you can only cover so much of the net. A low shot into the corner would be damn hard to stop and damn easy to score.

At one point it says
Saves - 6
Goals - 3
Misses - 3

6 out of 12 shots resulting in the gk making a save in a direct 1 v 1 situation is way too many for my liking. It suggests GK's are still being overly good like in Fifa 10. If a real GK makes 6 saves in a full 90 minute match then that is usually a good day for him (see getting points on fantasy football for saves :))

It's a bit hard to judge because in the actual matches in the video the defence is doing a good job and often covering in the box. What happens when this doesn't happen and the defensive AI lets you down by moving a cb out of position and letting a through ball through to a striker who is now 1 v 1. That's what i want to know. Will it be easy to save 1v1s?

I know it's a game but if GKs are as good as they are in Fifa 10 then it's going to be annoying again.
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Whether goalies are as good in 1v1s generally I'm not really sure - not enough playtime - but in regards to being the goalie, I found it pretty hard to save in 1v1s if the player was shooting from close. No-one takes the arena so seriously that he's going to be trying to score everytime - people try things which are hard - so a lot of the shots were probably longshots.

Generally, if the striker was in the area, I found it pretty difficult to save as the keeper - as you say, too much space to cover.

In other news, around 4000 words into a mega review :X

Coopz said:
So what should be in the game anyway they are naming as a new "feature"
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It is a new feature. You can't have it both ways. Either don't care that there is little personality, or be happy that it's coming. Should it hve been there all along.. probably. You can say that about a lot of features which both games bring in.
 
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mfmaxpower said:
It is true, their big additions this year, P+ and PP, are really more about fixing weaknesses in the game than innovation. On one hand we can be cynical about it, and we maybe should be to a degree (I've certainly had my moments), but on the other hand you could say that it's a positive from the standpoint that they're trying to address traditional weaknesses in the FIFA franchise, and are at least, hopefully, going in the right direction.

I think EA are really taking a beating this year because they don't have a "wow" feature, something innovative and new under the sun. That's why they're forced to give big names - P+ and PP - to refinements.

What else can they say, "um, yeah, so this year our big gameplay additions are we've improved passing and player individuality." Man they'd get destroyed!

Not sure I'd go as far as calling them tossers though.
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Not even. What gets them stick is things like MM being rewritten into CM in effect restarting their 3 year plan for MM. They get stick for introducing Creation Center where you cannot use your created teams in CM and have capped the limit on created teams to around 30. When in comparison the CC is not as deep as PES' edit mode then you get stick for it. They already knew what people wanted with the edit mode. PES style simple as that.

Things like that. It's not the WOW features. I just want the current modes refined.
 
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Rodelero said:
Whether goalies are as good in 1v1s generally I'm not really sure - not enough playtime - but in regards to being the goalie, I found it pretty hard to save in 1v1s if the player was shooting from close. No-one takes the arena so seriously that he's going to be trying to score everytime - people try things which are hard - so a lot of the shots were probably longshots.

Generally, if the striker was in the area, I found it pretty difficult to save as the keeper - as you say, too much space to cover.

In other news, around 4000 words into a mega review :X
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Blinking eck! good going matey. Can't wait to read it.
 
ant0n said:
Not even. What gets them stick is things like MM being rewritten into CM in effect restarting their 3 year plan for MM. They get stick for introducing Creation Center where you cannot use your created teams in CM and have capped the limit on created teams to around 30. When in comparison the CC is not as deep as PES' edit mode then you get stick for it. They already knew what people wanted with the edit mode. PES style simple as that.

Things like that. It's now the WOW features. I just want the current modes refined.
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They should allow us to import our own png templates similarly to how we can import pictures of our face for the virtual pro!

that is the future!
 
EatonTJ said:
It's ridiculous how much better the lighting is in PES vs. FIFA... and how much of a difference that makes to the overall quality of the presentation on the pitch.

EA really needs to hire the lighting designer away from Konami, looks amazing.
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Agree completely, glance at a still image of the new PES and you think it's a still from a real match.
 
Placebo said:
Agree completely, glance at a still image of the new PES and you think it's a still from a real match.
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Agreed, especially daytime lighting.

I also think the players are far more detailed looking from the gameplay cameras. FIFA's face details are fantastic for those that got the special treatment, but during gameplay, which by far matters the most, imo, FIFA players look, I dunno, chunky and blocky. Just look at their boots - in PES they are a more distinguishable feature, whereas in FIFA they kinda blend together with the socks, unless the colors sharply contrast. I'm not talking about movement or animations, just how detailed and lifelike they look during gameplay.
 
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