doesnt mean a thing though... doesnt change what happens in a game, was playing fifa 09 2 v 2 last night, im starting to hate fifa 09. If you dont have a the right team mate, or patience, the game on manual is a nightmare hodge podge of shitty running into each other constantly, sprinting, and completley unsmooth gameplay... i was dying to try pes 2009, but no one wanted too(just to see if it gave us more fun, I think it would have), in 4 straight games one team scored ZERO goals.. very frustrating fifa is. I after many months of playing the various fifa modes, I have to say the game is not that great, it's just better then the alternative(for 2 vs 2 Im thinking PES 2009 Patched is actually better). I hope fifa 10 runs alot smoother and has less collisions