FIFA 10

liger05 said:
I love this online. Found plenty games tonight against people with semi. Its awesome.
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Your lucky your on 360, if your playing FIFA on PS3 the game repeatedly disconnects you from PSN. If your playing a different game then your fine, I've only completed one game online so far, in all the other games I've attempted to play the furthest I've got is HT before the bloody thing disconnects.

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Yes it is, mine is at 100% right now. We've tried countless times to play games in our AVF club and are stats still read 0-0-0.
 
What a ridiculously long list for MM bugs, they didn't even have that many improvements for the game. Guess that's why they need a 3 year plan.

Find it even more grating because of the fact that Rutter and Patton probably have a combined experience of 15-20 years in football management games!

Another little thing; WHen you get the end of game menu at anfield and it pans along the centenrystand the reflection is not of the stadium but of a brazilian flag?! Might have been in 09, but never noticed it before. Also in HT and FT menu's background your stadium is full again.
 
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Shocking. After EA winning over a lot of people and giving people more confidence over the last few years, they're probably close to losing a lot of people now with this mess.

I'm going to be checking out PES 2010 in any case. I didn't like the demo much at all but according to the PES crowd, as usual the final version is different. It's worth a try for me.
 
DagsJT said:
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Shocking. After EA winning over a lot of people and giving people more confidence over the last few years, they're probably close to losing a lot of people now with this mess.

I'm going to be checking out PES 2010 in any case. I didn't like the demo much at all but according to the PES crowd, as usual the final version is different. It's worth a try for me.
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I'm totally with you on that Dags.

Absolute crying shame, because for the first time (probably EVER!) I absolute love the gameplay of FIFA.

I was playing MM last night as Southend on Pro, Manual and it was superb. The 'bugs' (many of which I dont consider real bugs, but peoples preference and perception of football), didnt bother me and I had some cracking games and scored lots of varied goals.

Its when the game finishes and you are back in the hub that it all falls to shit for me and as previously explained, doesnt give you the feeling PES does of being a manager of a team.

I am going to give FIFA the benefit of the doubt and keep it (along with PES) rather than trade one in for the other this year.

I do fear though that on the the pitch, PES will feel like a massive step back and very basic compared to the FIFA experience now.
 
DagsJT said:
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Shocking. After EA winning over a lot of people and giving people more confidence over the last few years, they're probably close to losing a lot of people now with this mess.

I'm going to be checking out PES 2010 in any case. I didn't like the demo much at all but according to the PES crowd, as usual the final version is different. It's worth a try for me.
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Its fucking redicolous. i hope konami make a good effort next year. im sick and tired of the bugs in this game and past FIFA games. the sooner i ditch fifa the better. fuck this for a laugh, even at £25 its still too much for a "beta"

No doubt fifa fanboys will stick by this game though but me? im thinking of binning mine. Im not going to play it anymore until its fixed. IF its fucking fixed that is. if not i may trade it in for something else.
 
That's a scary list.

Chris Davies said:
33) When you have a player injured, the game forces you to remove him from your team before going to the pre-game screen. You don't want to remove him from your first-choice team, you want to remove him at the pre-match team management screen, like in FIFA 09. But now you can't do that.
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Man I hate this! Forcing you to go through several needless menu 'clicks' or you forfeit the fixture :LOL: , ridiculous!

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38) You lose respect with the board when losing a game on penalties. You should be given the same increase/decrease you would be given for a draw rather than a win/loss in these circumstances.
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I would imagine what is probably happening here is that there's a general respect loss associated with being knocked out of a competition. So the decrease is not from losing the fixture on penalties but from being eliminated.

Chris Davies said:
43) Some players will sign for a club and then the next week you’ll get a notice on the transfers screen that they’ve signed for that same club. Again.
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I'm not 100% sure this is the case. If you're talking about the same screen I'm thinking of, is it not just showing you the most expensive transfers that have happened this season, not necessarily new ones happening that week? They're always sorted by price and the same every week. I could be wrong.

Chris Davies said:
49) Player search parameters constantly reset when searching for a player. So if you search for e.g. a defender rated 60-70, then you want to search for a midfielder with the same rating, the parameters have been reset meaning you have to input them again.
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Did you bid for one of those defenders? In FIFA 09, the search parameters were reset if you went to the Negotiate screen to make an offer, then returned straight back to the search results and tried to edit your search. Is this what you're talking about, or are searches just being reset each time?

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Has anyone noticed that they re-ordered the Player Roles? In 09, it went: Direct FK Short, then Direct FK Long, then Penalty Taker. Now they've moved Penalty Taker up one so it's between the two free-kick roles. Why on earth would you do that? :BLINK:

In the Squad Management screen before a fixture, set it to display the OVR rather than fatigue bar, then select a Reserve and swap him with another Reserve. I've seen both of their OVRs change, as if swapping them updated the number somehow. I could understand it if they were placed in the starting XI and it reflected their rating in a different position, but they're in the Reserve list.

Why did they remove the OVR from a player's Bio? Pretty important element of a player to display, no? It used to be next to the player's list of positions.

The Edit Formation screen is buggy. If you nudge one position around, then go to change the role of another position, it thinks the second position is where the first is. Sometimes it'll move it so they overlap, and you have to drag it back to where you want it. This was the case in 09, they haven't touched it.

I'm playing in the Polish league as one of the worst teams in the division. My board objectives for the first season are to get to the QF of the cup and to 'Avoid the Relegation Zone'. There's no indication on the league table of where the relegation zone is. Bottom three? Bottom two? One? Four? I'm 14th out of 16, how am I supposed to know if I'm on course to complete that objective? :ANX:

Speaking of the board, they've also told me that I should consider investing money in new players... when the transfer window was still closed. And I'd love to invest, but even a 49 OVR Polish free-agent with no other offers would rather sit at home than come down the road to play for me.

When I go to save my MM, when that's finished saving why does it always prompt me to save my profile too? Anyone else get this? I have autosave turned on as well.

Last night, after viewing and uploading a replay of a goal, I resumed the match and all the ball sounds were gone. I could still hear the crowd and the ref's whistle, but all impact sounds on the ball had vanished for the remainder of that match.

I thought 09 was a buggy game but 10 is taking the biscuit. I know I'll perservere because there's some lovely football being played out there on the pitch.
 
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Shocking bug list there, but well done Chris for compiling it. We need people like yourself get these issues over to EA. Let's hope they do something about it...
 
nerf said:
In the Squad Management screen before a fixture, set it to display the OVR rather than fatigue bar, then select a Reserve and swap him with another Reserve. I've seen both of their OVRs change, as if swapping them updated the number somehow. I could understand it if they were placed in the starting XI and it reflected their rating in a different position, but they're in the Reserve list.
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I've had that one too, very odd.
 
I disagree about this "25) Friendly games include matches against teams in your own division. This doesn’t usually happen in reality." in the MM bug list as it really happens.Maybe not in England but for the other leagues it does really happen
 
Couple more:

54) Sometimes strange things happen with the amount of transfer funds, one person reported going from having millions to spend to being 2.5 BILLION in debt.

55) For the new season you're supposed to receive new transfer funds, new wage budget to reflect new income for that season, people are reporting they start the new season with the same money they ended the last one.

Also here's a short URL link to tweet around, include #Fifa10 and this URL: http://is.gd/3ZZqj it leads to an EA forum post with the 55 (so far) bugs posted.
 
Scutch said:
That is outrageous. It could take months for all that to be sorted out.
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Can you really see them bothering?!

Only thing I'm hoping is that they knew about most of them and were already working to fix them before they were forced to release to meet the street date.

Still awful... makes you want to contact Watchdog! :LOL:
 
There seems to be far too many bugs where a patch will come and sort them out. I can see EA looking to fix some of them but unfortuantly many will still be there.
 
liger05 said:
There seems to be far too many bugs where a patch will come and sort them out. I can see EA looking to fix some of them but unfortuantly many will still be there.
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Well they should have a team set aside for just that whilst the others get on with fifa 11.

Even if it's addressed over 2-3 patches it needs to be done as it's shocking the quality control that the MM has gone through.

Even playing on MM i've not heard all this additional commentary that has supposed to be included? Anybody that has?
 
jonneymendoza said:
Its fucking redicolous. i hope konami make a good effort next year. im sick and tired of the bugs in this game and past FIFA games. the sooner i ditch fifa the better. fuck this for a laugh, even at £25 its still too much for a "beta"

No doubt fifa fanboys will stick by this game though but me? im thinking of binning mine. Im not going to play it anymore until its fixed. IF its fucking fixed that is. if not i may trade it in for something else.
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I ain't no fanboy but I certainly won't be binning this for the other pile of shite. If it doesn't get sorted soon then I will trade for 360 version.

Best footy game around IMO and when it does work online (I don't play offline so I feel for you guys who do), it's been a great game. The dropouts are very annoying though!!! Aaarrgghh!!!!!

My DNF is still at 0% opposed to tobi's being 100%. Not sure what's happening there. Everybodies should get reset as I pride myself on a 0% DNF as I can't stand quitters.
 
SJP76 said:
I ain't no fanboy but I certainly won't be binning this for the other pile of shite. If it doesn't get sorted soon then I will trade for 360 version.

Best footy game around IMO and when it does work online (I don't play offline so I feel for you guys who do), it's been a great game. The dropouts are very annoying though!!! Aaarrgghh!!!!!

My DNF is still at 0% opposed to tobi's being 100%. Not sure what's happening there. Everybodies should get reset as I pride myself on a 0% DNF as I can't stand quitters.
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well i agree. tthe actual gameplay is bloody brilliant but everything else just "doesnt" work
 
Well I'm having a good time with Live Season at the moment, which is basically a toned down manager mode with no transfers (other than as they happen in reality) and a distinct lack of bugs.
 
I'm getting really fucked off with BAP Seasons now.

I was playing on professional, but my teammates were acting like morons and running into the opposition instead of passing it etc, so I bumped it up to world class, only to get results like Fulham 5-1 Manchester United! I scored the one goal right at the end when my teammates finally managed to get a decent move going, Andy Johnson and Bobby Zamora tore Rio and Vidic to pieces the rest of the time.

Now I've changed to a CCC team, and the problems are the same. Constant running into the other team and not making obvious passes.

Also I've had it where a player just jogs along with the ball completely ignoring another player making a nice run into space, eventually when I get in the box (I think he must have been waiting for me :ROLL: ) he whips over a poor cross which the defender easily heads away (my VP is 5'8) wasting a decent scoring chance.

Another thing that happens is you play a nice pass into space, your teammate is easily going to get there first (you think), only he then doddles around and lets the defender nip in infront of him and you get a negative mark for a misplaced pass!

It really is starting to piss me off now.

I'm not even starting a MM.
 
Played 4 hours of MM last night, the bugs were making it annoying as hell at points.

There also seems to be a few more instances of players having to run the full animation before responding, especially in defence when you have the ball to clear and as Mr Rutter claimed the defence was more reactive it does annoy the hell out of you as the AI slots the ball home while your player does a jig...

EA need to act and act big on the bug issues, a half ass ed patch in a months time won't cut it, the MM has gone back-wards it's now a 4 year plan and were back to the old 2011 is what 2010 should have been, monkey...

56) ....In the tactic creation screen you are unable to push your strikers as forward as before or place players into certain areas, I know this happened in 09 but it's worse in 10. But the main bug is sometimes you go back to a tactic and more than one player will be put in the same spot, freaked me out at first as I thought I only had 8 players on the pitch, three players were all pushed into the exact same spot... :CONFUSE:
 
Chris Davies said:
Anyone have anything to add to this list of Manager Mode issues / issues that affect Manager Mode?

Oh and while I'm here, does anyone else feel that on Pro you can play as a 1 star team against a 4 star team and control the game, whereas on World Class you can play as a 4 star team against a 1 star team and get mauled? Or is it just me?

1) The Manager Mode freezing bug (where you can’t progress without your console locking up) is still there. One person has suffered from this and noticed that in his last save before this occurs, one of his strikers has no name and next to the form icon it says “-10118”.

2) It has been reported that transfers “lock” altogether after a certain amount of seasons (being linked to a disc problem).

3) All teams below the Premier League have their tactics set to all-70s. Applies to other leagues/teams as well, see Australia, Brazil and others.

4) All assists are credited to the goalkeeper.

5) Players you loan out can be sold by the clubs you loaned them to.

6) Newly signed players vanish from your squad with no warning. They just disappear, and then if you look them up they’re playing for someone else.

7) When trying to sign a second loan player, sometimes I am told by the game that I already have two – when I only have one.

8) When signing two loan players, I then tried to (permanently) sign two free agents, and I’m told I can’t sign them because I “already have two players on loan”.

9) 90% of matches in England are played at night in the rain regardless of stadium choice. I’ve yet to see a match played in the daytime with sunny weather.

10) Seasonal changes don’t seem to affect the weather. So in England, in the summer, you will see rain and even snow with no games being played in sunshine.

11) Signing players is practically impossible, even when offering maximum wages and maximum bonuses, even if you can get their interest level up to 85%+. (Even if you start out as a manager with no reputation, you should be able to sign really poor players with no reputation who aren’t getting first-team football elsewhere.)

12) Signing your own players is just as difficult, regardless of how well the team is doing. They refuse to sign even when you offer the maximum wages allowed. But if you wait until the end of the season, you get the same screen you get in FIFA 09 where you can just tick a box to re-sign a player and they will sign for peanuts! Strange one!

13) The board sack you even if you occupy first place. You can expect to be fired at the mid-way point of the season if you lose a cup game, even if you’re in the top four of the league, especially in the Premier League. Even in the lower leagues, I’ve seen situations where games are won 6-0 every week for months and suddenly you’re fired the moment you draw 1-1.

14) When playing against teams who are better than you, your board always expect you to beat that team. I mostly play as a League 1 team, and if I’m beaten by a Championship or Premier League side I get a board comment that states I was “expected to win the game”, and occasionally you will get the sack for this. This may be because teams aren’t recognised in their correct division; for example, when losing against a team from the league above you, you will occasionally get a message that says you should have done better against “lower league opposition”.

15) The assistant manager, even when turned off, will sometimes swap your players around.

16) The assistant manager AI is terrible. It will choose players with no fitness (10%-20%) to play out of position, over players with 100% fitness who can play in that position. See below for more info.

17) The AI management of other clubs is terrible. Examples; Chelsea play Terry at LB with Cole at CB in the same match, Man Utd play Vidic and Ferdinand as LB/RB with Brown and Evra as CBs in the same match, Giggs gets played at LB occasionally, etc. etc. etc.

18) The effect of form is far too severe. It makes your team go up/down by a whole star rating within a few games, so with a 3 star team you can yoyo to 2 star and weeks later 4 star.

19) The form system seems to be totally random. I can win 2-3 games in a row by 2-3 goals and the form will get worse. A striker can score six goals in a game and his form will DROP!

20) I’ve seen one injury in two seasons; Marcel promised this lack of injuries – and especially this lack of SERIOUS injuries – was fixed for FIFA 10. This is simply not true.

21) Injuries don’t last for a long enough period of time. For example, a hamstring injury should keep a player out for a month – in FIFA 10 it’s a week.

22) When playing in the snow the ball used is white, which is incredibly difficult to see, and you can’t change the ball yourself.

23) Only 5 benched substitutes are allowed in FIFA 10 below the Premier League. All English league and cup competitions now allow 7 substitutes in reality.

24) Friendly games should allow 12 substitutes on the bench (and also you should be allowed to use all 12). Currently it’s restricted to 7 on the bench (with only 3 substitutions allowed).

25) Friendly games include matches against teams in your own division. This doesn’t usually happen in reality.

26) FA Cup games are all played at night when they’re only ever played in the daytime now, including the final.

27) The shortlist was supposed to allow up to 20 players to be stored, but seems to only allow 10 players.

28) The overall rating of a player changes before/during the game. So if one of my strikers has an overall rating of 83 (including his form), when I pause the game and go to Team Management his rating can drop by 10+. What value is actually being used by the game? The pre-game rating or the paused-game rating?

29) Form should never affect physical attributes. For example, a striker who is on hot form wouldn’t see his strength increase.

30) Playing as a League 1/2 team, you have literally no fit players left after 3-5 games of the season. I don’t care how bad your fitness coach is, a group of professional players would have enough players fit to start a game after 3-5 games of the season. (You’re forced to spend £1m to upgrade your fitness coach to a realistic level.)

31) The league table that shows up at the start of each game is never correct (same as FIFA 09). It always shows you in 6th-9th position regardless of whether you’re in the top half or the bottom half of the table, and your opponents are shown in an incorrect position as well.

32) When simming games instead of playing them, two things to note. Firstly, the level of your fitness coach isn’t taken into account, so the players lose 25%-75% more fitness than they should. Secondly, when simming, you actually get to see some injuries! Plus they last for a decent period of time (e.g. metacarpal fracture, player out for four weeks)!

33) When you have a player injured, the game forces you to remove him from your team before going to the pre-game screen. You don't want to remove him from your first-choice team, you want to remove him at the pre-match team management screen, like in FIFA 09. But now you can't do that.

34) Often you are not told why a player has refused to sign for you. No explanation is given on the Negotiation History screen for these players and it seems that they are never permitted to sign for your club, for no apparent reason. You never get an explanation for the affected players.

35) Sometimes when trying to sign a player they’ll say e.g. they get a “bad vibe” from your current players. Try to sign them again next week and they’ll sign for you. Doesn’t make much sense.

36) You can list a player for sale/loan who is garbage, e.g. 42 overall when the rest of the players in your squad/division are 60+, and instantly you get offers from the top teams in your division/country for him. Sometimes even top-flight teams from other countries make an offer; they have no possible reason to loan in a player who is literally twice as bad as any other player they have. It seems that every player you ever list you MUST receive an offer for, even if they are terrible, and it’s always a good team that has no need for a poor player which shows interest.

37) As a manager with a reputation level of half-a-star, you sometimes get comments from the board that “a manager of your calibre should be performing better”.

38) You lose respect with the board when losing a game on penalties. You should be given the same increase/decrease you would be given for a draw rather than a win/loss in these circumstances.

39) The leader of the assist list seems to be the player who keeps the most clean sheets.

40) Players who are substituted show no ratings at full-time. So if my striker gets a hat-trick and I substitute him, his rating is blank after the game. (Yet substituted players can receive Man of the Match awards, so a rating must be getting calculated by the game? I presume they’re just not being displayed?)

41) Goals/assists that occur in cup competitions, e.g. the FA Cup, aren’t counted in the player’s statistics.

42) When scouted players are presented to you for purchase, they are always said to play on the opposite side to their preferred foot. For example, a left winger will always be shown to prefer their right foot. Yet if you buy the player, most of the time, they will actually prefer the appropriate foot.

43) Some players will sign for a club and then the next week you’ll get a notice on the transfers screen that they’ve signed for that same club. Again.

44) Some players will sign for a club and then the next week they’ll have signed for somebody else!

45) When searching for players their form ratings are displayed, rather than their actual ratings. This means you have no idea what the player’s actual ratings are.

46) When selling a player, the whole squad gets moved around. Player roles are also moved around.

47) When buying a player, they are given a squad number already in use, and it messes up the squad numbers for the entire team. Why can’t they be given a number that isn’t in use?

48) Stadia never fill up with people. I can play a Champions League match against a five-star team and all stands will still have large empty sections.

49) Player search parameters constantly reset when searching for a player. So if you search for e.g. a defender rated 60-70, then you want to search for a midfielder with the same rating, the parameters have been reset meaning you have to input them again.

50) Occasionally the wrong stadium picture is displayed pre-game. For example when playing at the Emirates a picture of (what looked to be) the training ground was displayed.

51) Creating a player (not a Virtual Pro) to sign in your Manager Mode career seems incredibly difficult/buggy. If you create a player and assign him to the free agents pool, the game freezes. If you assign him to a national team, he doesn’t show up as a free agent in Manager Mode. If you assign him to a national team and THEN move him to the free agents pool, you won’t be able to find him anywhere but in the “Created Players” section and you’ll see that his assigned team is referred to as something like "team1932as12309" – you can’t then find this team/player in Manager Mode to sign the player.

52) Commentary gaffes happen every 1-2 games, e.g. “5 minutes to go and they lead 1-0” when it’s 1-1, “I have to say he’s on one of the worst runs of his career” when he’s already scored in the match you’re playing, etc. etc. etc. and also, when playing as your Virtual Pro, you find the commentary refers to you scoring your 20th goal every time you score once you’ve reached that point. So for example when you score your 21st goal the commentator will say it’s your 20th, etc. (not sure if this only applies to Manager Mode or other modes as well).

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53) People playing as League Two teams (e.g. Bury) are reporting that they are not entered into the English league cup competition.
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Shocking, absolutely shocking.

I doubt I'll even be touching MM this year, unless some of these major bugs are sorted.

Where the hell is Marcel Kun? he has hyped up MM on the Fifa forums all fucking year. What a fucking joke.
 
ant0n said:
In FIFA 08 I remember just the corner glitch. In 09 it was the throughball,dream teams, corner glitch, halfway line shooting. This year it's 50+ bugs
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Don't forget the literal 6-3-1 bus parking formation, INCREDIBLY primitive tackling system (still hasn't been changed), almost every goal from a 1v1 situation, finesse shot guaranteed goals, terrible long ball physics, no defender-striker marking, no fullback marking, PLAYER SWITCHING...

I'm just gonna cry from remembering that $50 I gladly forked over to EA.
 
Geefiasco said:
Where the hell is Marcel Kun? he has hyped up MM on the Fifa forums all fucking year. What a fucking joke.
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He's on honeymoon conveniently enough, I hope someone warned him as to what kind of reception he's going to get when he returns! Nobody will ever trust a word the guy says again.
 
DagsJT said:
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Shocking. After EA winning over a lot of people and giving people more confidence over the last few years, they're probably close to losing a lot of people now with this mess.

I'm going to be checking out PES 2010 in any case. I didn't like the demo much at all but according to the PES crowd, as usual the final version is different. It's worth a try for me.
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If FIFA10 isn't enough for KONAMI to produce another stroke of genius next year, I don't know what will. It's like trying to destroy your biggest rival, and suddenly he's had a heart attack and you have the chance to FINISH HIM.
 
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