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I for the life of me dont understand why people think this demo is shoddy

If you have played alot of 09 like i have you should see that 10 fixes most of the gripes that 09 had
 
Doc you know i like you right? And you always make decent posts but on this one it's time for your afternoon nap old boy.This has moved on a great deal from 09,ofcourse you have to have played 09 alot to know this.
 
The problem is Cam that it just does not feel as though it has moved forward. It seems the incramental tweaks are quite fine and I just do not see why it has taken 12 months to produce this.

I also think the graphics have taken a step backwards, especially on the close ups, it looks almost cartoon like in places.

I am dissapointed with the effort, I know they have listened to fans and all that but its so much like 09 its frightening.

360 dribbling is not showing a massive difference IMO and its the games biggest sell.

Utterly mental. It's so far ahead of FIFA 09 it's untrue, and 360 dribbling makes a world of difference to me. I really struggle to understand where people are coming from with this; it does seem to be a minority view, at least.
 
People should lay of the DR Force. He is a respected member as everyone should be.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether it's agreed with or not.

Anyway, started playing this on slow and like it, but i also like the frantic pace of normal. its a mood thing i think.
 
The people knocking Dr Force and co; I think it comes down to the fact that if you could play PES 2009 and think "I still love this engine", you'll never appreciate FIFA.

I notice it's mostly the older crowd. I'm not trying to say that people are living in the past but everyone I know in my personal life, who plays football regularly, says PES 2009 is nothing like real football because the passing, movement, everything about it is so computerised (everything feels like it's on rails and there's lack of control in a lot of circumstances - again some people like this because it's supposed to be using their real-life attributes to decide things for you but when you're on a pitch kicking a ball, nothing is decided for you).

This demo isn't perfect but there's not a lot wrong with it either, and if auto-passing (if I need to explain that then I'm in the wrong place) etc. is your idea of a football game - which it is in some people's minds and that's fine - you're never going to appreciate FIFA.

Dr Force has said before that for him fun is key. I think that's what it comes down to. If you still love that old PES engine by now, after all these years where other people have started to dislike it more and more each year, then you're only going to enjoy playing a football game with that engine. So good luck to you, PES 2010 will be great I'm sure.
 
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I have a question for those that have played Human vs. Human:
Is stamina depleted really fast? Can you do pressure all the time? Is secondary defender's pression making a real impact on stamina? It's very important for me that someone who simply holds sprint button all the game should finish the game totally exhaust.

I actually think they've nailed it (I just hope not everyone's as good as Barca at it). I picked Bayern and my brother picked Barcelona and it was just torture from my perspective, Im also sure Xavi and Iniesta's passes are much faster and crisper than anyone else's. He received the ball with his midfield and you can't just charge in any more IMO, it takes longer now (It feels really heavy when running towards the target) and he was just passing around me for a while, I then had to change to trying to block his passing lanes which got me more success but due to their passing being so good it hardly helped. I really thought that was brilliant and if you can run the show with your CM's.

I for the life of me dont understand why people think this demo is shoddy

If you have played alot of 09 like i have you should see that 10 fixes most of the gripes that 09 had

110% Agreed, I think some of the people who are saying it hasn't changed much probably haven't played 09 for a while and have probably forgot the feel for that game because apart from visually it looking 90% similar the gameplay is a whole new world, Shooting, Passing, Defending and Dribbling have all changed or been improved .
 
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110% Agreed, I think some of the people who are saying it hasn't changed much probably haven't played 09 for a while and have probably forgot the feel for that game because apart from visually it looking 90% similar the gameplay is a whole new world, Shooting, Passing, Defending and Dribbling have all changed or been improved .

Yeah to me every part seems to have had something done to it and its alot better for it plus you have all the new stuff like the battles in ball winning and tussles that make it more random which just blows 09's kind of magnetism in tackles out of the water

and of course all the new more realistic animations that make the games flow so realistically
 
Hi Brunnoce

I agree that the shooting is so much better, it's just i can't feel these so called big differences in all other area's.

I'm glad you are happy with it and I am sure it will give hours of endless fun, however it's just not my cup of tea and the more I try to like it the more frustrating it is becoming. Anyway I can't really contribute muct to the thread so i am signing out, but hope you all enjoy it chaps:TU:

Its all good m8, i really hope u can at least enjoy PES2010(heck, ill be trying it too :D ) or maybe evan change your mind after trying the full version on a proper 6mim half macth.

Please dont take any of this personally, WE all know how realible user u are here..u dont need o explain yourself if u dont like a game or another, unless u feel like it.

cheers man.
 
and if auto-passing (if I need to explain that then I'm in the wrong place) etc. is your idea of a football game - which it is in some people's minds and that's fine - you're never going to appreciate FIFA.

Chris, I for one am a guy that really enjoys assited stuff, for the simple reason that when i use that i feel the ratings working a lot more, i love the idea that the player ratings will play a big role weather a shoot is on or off target, its just how i roll, aways have been and thats problaby the main reason why i still like PES6(cant play pes08, 09 tough).

And still with all PES PRO taste I really liked those 2 last versions of FIFA...and 10 is looking really promissing to me, i love the demo.
 
I think you didn't get the point entirely of my post. If I play Juventus or Chelsea, my central midfielders are gods and I do what I want. Playing weaker players, all the glory goes away fast and you can't let the cpu get 1 meter away of you or they will just dispossess you.

I play long passes, through balls, dribbles, etc.. I do everything I can dream of in the game, except mantain possession in midfield with the more skilled players.

Gab, I know I can "shield" the ball with a button, but I would like to be able to simply turn with a weak player and make impossible for the opponent to knock the ball off of me from behind so easily. I know 30% of times there's the chance of grabbing a free kick, but most of the times you simply loose possession and your player does that kind of "stumbling" animation.

It's the fact that strength is way overacted that pissess me off because it diminishes creative players.

I like Essien a lot, but Xavi is a completely different player and one of the best passers in the world. Probably the man with less turnovers in history.

On the other side, forwards are really well represented. In fact, Fifa 10 shows he best attack and defense ever seen in a game. Now it's only midfield left!

I have a question for those that have played Human vs. Human:
Is stamina depleted really fast? Can you do pressure all the time? Is secondary defender's pression making a real impact on stamina? It's very important for me that someone who simply holds sprint button all the game should finish the game totally exhaust.

Ok that's fair enough I guess then. Most people who pick up a football game look to pass or shoot or run as soon as they get it - its an instantaneous reaction after years of constant pressure through PES and every other football game - it's action oriented and until now, we've never had the ability or option to hold the ball and try to create space.

It will take time for people to get the rails and constant pressure out of their system - IMO those who consistently pressure in 09 and 10 (playing against mates) are the easiest to beat - if this gets around, people will pressure less and less.

I have played against humans in 10 - I can't say Ive noticed any stamina effects, but the people I play against dont 'hold' the pressure button like some - although they will close me down fairly quickly.

As for the Essien vs Xavi argument that I seem to have started hehe...Xavi is no doubt a magician with the ball, but I feel that sticking him in a lesser team without the drive of iniesta beside him would make him seem a little bit anonymous...sort of like a rich man's liam miller if you get my drift.

I love the drive that Essien and Iniesta can initiate - they take the game by the scruff of the neck - Xavi is often a talented bystander who will step in to provide the final link to the goal - obviously important, but I just prefer the drive of these other two.

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Ok that's fair enough I guess then. Most people who pick up a football game look to pass or shoot or run as soon as they get it - its an instantaneous reaction after years of constant pressure through PES and every other football game - it's action oriented and until now, we've never had the ability or option to hold the ball and try to create space.

It will take time for people to get the rails and constant pressure out of their system - IMO those who consistently pressure in 09 and 10 (playing against mates) are the easiest to beat - if this gets around, people will pressure less and less.

I have played against humans in 10 - I can't say Ive noticed any stamina effects, but the people I play against dont 'hold' the pressure button like some - although they will close me down fairly quickly.

As for the Essien vs Xavi argument that I seem to have started hehe...Xavi is no doubt a magician with the ball, but I feel that sticking him in a lesser team without the drive of iniesta beside him would make him seem a little bit anonymous...sort of like a rich man's liam miller if you get my drift.
I love the drive that Essien and Iniesta can initiate - they take the game by the scruff of the neck - Xavi is often a talented bystander who will step in to provide the final link to the goal - obviously important, but I just prefer the drive of these other two.

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You're stupid
 
I don't quite understand how some think that using manual on FIFA makes players attributes null and void. For instance if you are using a player like Zlatan, Eto, Drogba, C. Ronaldo the shooting will have a higher percentage of going on target (especially in situations where said players are in bad angles, off-balance, being challenged, etc...) than if you are using a lesser known player where you'd need to be in a good position to have a high percentage shot. This also translates to passing; for instance if I'm using a player like Xavi, X.Alonso, Gerrard, etc...you don't need aim 100% accurately to hit your target or if you're trying to hit a long ball you don't need to fill the power bar all the way so that you can reach your target. These are a couple of instances where I feel the difference between using player A compared to B.
 
You're stupid

Thanks for that, much appreciated.

I form my own opinions on players and dont have posters of Ronaldo or Xavi in my room just because the media drools over them.

Just via you rounding the keeper with Molinaro, I know which type of football fan you are.

If Miller was still at United and playing well, I'm sure you would take me seriously. But no, since hes moved on to a club not under the glamorous lights of the champions league or the premier league, he's all of a sudden crap. My other comparison, probably more well known to you, would be Deco. Devastating when involved, but rarely involved enough.

Oh, and for those who are trying to do the bridge - it doesnt require the 'trick' button - you need to time your push of the right stick (in the right direction for a bridge obviously) when the defender lunges in at you. I have managed to do it twice, but both times the nudge has hit the side of the defender's foot and the ball has bounced away from me. Looked very odd initially as the player ran away from the ball...
 
Thanks for that, much appreciated.

I form my own opinions on players and dont have posters of Ronaldo or Xavi in my room just because the media drools over them.

Just via you rounding the keeper with Molinaro, I know which type of football fan you are.

If Miller was still at United and playing well, I'm sure you would take me seriously. But no, since hes moved on to a club not under the glamorous lights of the champions league or the premier league, he's all of a sudden crap. My other comparison, probably more well known to you, would be Deco. Devastating when involved, but rarely involved enough.

Oh, and for those who are trying to do the bridge - it doesnt require the 'trick' button - you need to time your push of the right stick (in the right direction for a bridge obviously) when the defender lunges in at you. I have managed to do it twice, but both times the nudge has hit the side of the defender's foot and the ball has bounced away from me. Looked very odd initially as the player ran away from the ball...

I am a match going football fan, who spends thousands a year wtahcing his team, who has formed his own opinion of Xavi over countless years of watching him, way before Iniesta was in the side. And that includes watching him live twice in the past couple of years against my team, including his wonderful performance when United couldnt get near him in Rome. He was the standout player as he always, always played the right ball.

Liam Miller is absolute shite, not fit to be mentioned in the same sentence as him. One decent CL game for Celtic when he scored in front of Fergie.

And to be honest saying Xavi is a talented bystander is nothing short of stupid as I'm sure dekkard agrees as he has no doubt watched more Xavi than us both. Everything goes through Xavi for Barca and Spain. Everything. Hardly a bystander. He's the best midfielder in the world.

That said, Essiens the best midifelder in England IMO, but come on. Liam Miller compared to Xavi is retarded.

And the Molinaro clip was in response to people discussing difficulty of rounding keepers, and it was the first time I've done it on the demo.

No need to get so defensive, you deserved to be told you were stupid for comparing Liam Miller and Xavi
 
Strange bug I had :

Drogba got injured but the referee let the game continue. After the ball was out of play, a cinematic shown A. Cole injured with "11 Drogba" written on the screen.
I was expecting to see the subtitution menu but it never happened, instead I was playing with 10 players and I couldn't press start until the ball was out !!! Is that normal ?
 
I am a match going football fan, who spends thousands a year wtahcing his team, who has formed his own opinion of Xavi over countless years of watching him, way before Iniesta was in the side. And that includes watching him live twice in the past couple of years against my team, including his wonderful performance when United couldnt get near him in Rome. He was the standout player as he always, always played the right ball.

Liam Miller is absolute shite, not fit to be mentioned in the same sentence as him. One decent CL game for Celtic when he scored in front of Fergie.

And to be honest saying Xavi is a talented bystander is nothing short of stupid as I'm sure dekkard agrees as he has no doubt watched more Xavi than us both. Everything goes through Xavi for Barca and Spain. Everything. Hardly a bystander. He's the best midfielder in the world.

That said, Essiens the best midifelder in England IMO, but come on. Liam Miller compared to Xavi is retarded.

And the Molinaro clip was in response to people discussing difficulty of rounding keepers, and it was the first time I've done it on the demo.

No need to get so defensive, you deserved to be told you were stupid for comparing Liam Miller and Xavi

Take Xavi out of Barca - they basically play the same way but lack killer balls/touch. Take Essien out of Chelsea - they lose their shape, lose their drive and lose their power. Xavi will always be applauded more because he's the one playing through the balls. Comparing the two is difficult though b/c they are, as drekkard said, very different players in their roles, the teams they play in and the requirements of their respective leagues.

I'll admit Liam Miller was probably a poor choice - the point of the comparison was that both have the vision and touch to split defences, but like alot of players in their role, can sometimes become a little anonymous. (Deco?)

Everything goes through Xavi because they play through Xavi, not because he wins the ball or pushes them forward. Clearly this is because both Barca/Spain know how devastating he can be and give him the ball, but I will always be more inclined to give my respect to a player who can win his own ball, be a leader, cares about his club, AND play through the balls and strikes when he has to.

Xavi is the consummate professional. Essien is a footballer.
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This is surely going to ruffle a few feathers as Im well aware my opinion is far from popular, so lets just agree to disagree.

People and barcelona...:NO:
 
Take Xavi out of Barca - they basically play the same way but lack killer balls/touch. Take Essien out of Chelsea - they lose their shape, lose their drive and lose their power. Xavi will always be applauded more because he's the one playing through the balls. Comparing the two is difficult though b/c they are, as drekkard said, very different players in their roles, the teams they play in and the requirements of their respective leagues.

I'll admit Liam Miller was probably a poor choice - the point of the comparison was that both have the vision and touch to split defences, but like alot of players in their role, can sometimes become a little anonymous. (Deco?)

Everything goes through Xavi because they play through Xavi, not because he wins the ball or pushes them forward. Clearly this is because both Barca/Spain know how devastating he can be and give him the ball, but I will always be more inclined to give my respect to a player who can win his own ball, be a leader, cares about his club, AND play through the balls and strikes when he has to.

Xavi is the consummate professional. Essien is a footballer.
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This is surely going to ruffle a few feathers as Im well aware my opinion is far from popular, so lets just agree to disagree.

People and barcelona...:NO:

Accepted, you're just lucky you didnt have to sit through matches of Liam Miller, Kleberson and Djemba Djemba. Xavi, Iniesta and Yaya Toure they were not.
 
Ok that's fair enough I guess then. Most people who pick up a football game look to pass or shoot or run as soon as they get it - its an instantaneous reaction after years of constant pressure through PES and every other football game - it's action oriented and until now, we've never had the ability or option to hold the ball and try to create space.

It will take time for people to get the rails and constant pressure out of their system - IMO those who consistently pressure in 09 and 10 (playing against mates) are the easiest to beat - if this gets around, people will pressure less and less.

I have played against humans in 10 - I can't say Ive noticed any stamina effects, but the people I play against dont 'hold' the pressure button like some - although they will close me down fairly quickly.

As for the Essien vs Xavi argument that I seem to have started hehe...Xavi is no doubt a magician with the ball, but I feel that sticking him in a lesser team without the drive of iniesta beside him would make him seem a little bit anonymous...sort of like a rich man's liam miller if you get my drift.

I love the drive that Essien and Iniesta can initiate - they take the game by the scruff of the neck - Xavi is often a talented bystander who will step in to provide the final link to the goal - obviously important, but I just prefer the drive of these other two.

Anyway...
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Absolute rubbish.
1) Pes can be played to a slow pace if you play like a man that's been with a woman before. i.e. A kid tries to hump her as quick as possible.
2. Did you see Xavi pulling strings in the CL final. My god the man placed the ball for a -1,70m midget magician between 3 -2m oafs.
 
Everything goes through Xavi because they play through Xavi, not because he wins the ball or pushes them forward. Clearly this is because both Barca/Spain know how devastating he can be and give him the ball, but I will always be more inclined to give my respect to a player who can win his own ball, be a leader, cares about his club, AND play through the balls and strikes when he has to.

They play through Xavi for a reason. Because he is probably the best playmaker in the world with a fantastic eye for a killer pass and his pass completion rate is out of this world.

Pretty good for a talented bystander. He would slot into the first 11 of any team in the world.
 
They play through Xavi for a reason. Because he is probably the best playmaker in the world with a fantastic eye for a killer pass and his pass completion rate is out of this world.

Pretty good for a talented bystander. He would slot into the first 11 of any team in the world.
This.
 
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