eFootball PES 2021 Discussion Thread (PC)

I didn’t keep exact track, but after playing between 50 to 100 games over the past 6 months, I finally beat Fiorentina with my Sampdoria. Bonaventura and Alex were dominating me in midfield, capitalising on my mistakes, which mostly came forth from my tendency to play a bit too nonchalant. Every time I took the lead, their TS would kick in, and I’d get overwhelmed. I can’t say I kept my composure this time either—lots of nervous errors—but I parked the bus a bit more, made the most of my counterattacks, and found myself winning with an unbelievable 3-0 where I normally score maybe once every three matches. All that time I thought I was recording, but alas, it turns out that in fact I was merely creating a mandala, now vanished forever. The three goals where absolute beauties too 😭.

I could extend my challenge to 3 wins in a row but I think I will allow myself now to see if I can beat a top team like AC Milan with my renewed confidence. This time I will make absolutely sure to record each session, as for me the idea that I am also producing some sort of relic is an essential part of the whole experience. I've set the goal to always create a match that flows realistically and that showcases a variety of attacks, skills, passes. This puts a bit of the pressure on me, like in a real match, with a crowd that expects you to not only win and give it your best but also likes to be entertained.
 
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this basically sums up my feelings with pes 2021 as a whole, many times bugs like this happens and don t let u win a game, this can t happen tbh in the other game...period
 
Hatrickhero said:
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1. That animation almost always leads to a foul and a yellow card for the defending player anywhere else on the pitch and yet, in vanilla pes, I never saw a pen given when that foul animation happened in the box. Thankfully whatever frankenstein's monster combination of mods I'm using seems to have rectified that (at least somewhat). I get penalties with this animation now. Tbf I get a lot of penalties now. Think I've gotten a pen in 4 of the last 5 matches I've played.

2. Ah yes player switching. Straight up one of this game's most noticeable flaws. That happens more than it should and, at this point, there's no fixing it. A shame but ultimately not game breaking for me (at least not as much as other issues this game has).

3. Tbf, I don't see anything wrong with this one. In fact I wish more collisions in this game played out like this; too often a moving player will collide with a stationary one and they'll just stuck together instead of reacting like they actually have mass to them. Footballers don't absorb all contact. In fact they rarely do. And that's something that isn't reflected well in this game.

Hatrickhero said:
this basically sums up my feelings with pes 2021 as a whole, many times bugs like this happens and don t let u win a game, this can t happen tbh in the other game...period
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Oh we know how you feel. A couple old clips isn't adding anything much given that your last few contributions to this thread were already about your displeasure with this game. And that's fine. It's clearly a flawed game. We've just found a way to have fun despite those flaws (of course it can be argued that we shouldn't have to 'find a way', but I guess that's more of a philosophical conversation about modern gaming as a whole). You don't really need to remind people you don't like this game and you prefer fifa. You've made that point already.
 
aderow said:
1. That animation almost always leads to a foul and a yellow card for the defending player anywhere else on the pitch and yet, in vanilla pes, I never saw a pen given when that foul animation happened in the box. Thankfully whatever frankenstein's monster combination of mods I'm using seems to have rectified that (at least somewhat). I get penalties with this animation now. Tbf I get a lot of penalties now. Think I've gotten a pen in 4 of the last 5 matches I've played.

2. Ah yes player switching. Straight up one of this game's most noticeable flaws. That happens more than it should and, at this point, there's no fixing it. A shame but ultimately not game breaking for me (at least not as much as other issues this game has).

3. Tbf, I don't see anything wrong with this one. In fact I wish more collisions in this game played out like this; too often a moving player will collide with a stationary one and they'll just stuck together instead of reacting like they actually have mass to them. Footballers don't absorb all contact. In fact they rarely do. And that's something that isn't reflected well in this game.


Oh we know how you feel. A couple old clips isn't adding anything much given that your last few contributions to this thread were already about your displeasure with this game. And that's fine. It's clearly a flawed game. We've just found a way to have fun despite those flaws (of course it can be argued that we shouldn't have to 'find a way', but I guess that's more of a philosophical conversation about modern gaming as a whole). You don't really need to remind people you don't like this game and you prefer fifa. You've made that point already.
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I also get penalties, not a lot, but 3-4 per season, an ok amount of freekicks.
But what i havent seen so far, after a season and a half of ML is a red card or two yellow cards for any cpu player.
The only reason i play PES 21 on pc over my PES 20 on xbox is mods, making the game okay and obviously all the licences etc, but from a pure gameplay aspect, i prefer PES 20.
Heres why
Player switching like you mentioned is ass on 21,super smooth on Pes 20
Players are much more alive/responsive
If i only could see past a fake CL/EL id play it over 21 any given day.
With that said, PES 21 is a very solid game, player switching and awerness isnt
 
rockstrongo said:
I also get penalties, not a lot, but 3-4 per season, an ok amount of freekicks.
But what i havent seen so far, after a season and a half of ML is a red card or two yellow cards for any cpu player.
The only reason i play PES 21 on pc over my PES 20 on xbox is mods, making the game okay and obviously all the licences etc, but from a pure gameplay aspect, i prefer PES 20.
Heres why
Player switching like you mentioned is ass on 21,super smooth on Pes 20
Players are much more alive/responsive
If i only could see past a fake CL/EL id play it over 21 any given day.
With that said, PES 21 is a very solid game, player switching and awerness isnt
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I bait the AI constantly, especially in the box, looking for free kicks and penalties. Hence why I get as many as I do.

Man I don't even remember what 2020 was like. It's been so long. 17 and 19 I remember as I've played them recently. 18 I remember too, but man I don't remember 2020 at all.
 
aderow said:
I bait the AI constantly, especially in the box, looking for free kicks and penalties. Hence why I get as many as I do.

Man I don't even remember what 2020 was like. It's been so long. 17 and 19 I remember as I've played them recently. 18 I remember too, but man I don't remember 2020 at all.
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Bought 20 when it came out (console) then when 21 popped out, as a season update with fake Milan/Inter and no San Siro, i never bought it for console, so i played it a lot, still think the gameplay is above Pes 21 (console/vanilla)
 
Couple clips

First and my favorite is this goal from Casemiro. Sheesh:


Sometimes route one is the best route. Højlund to Eriksen:


I played a lot of winger growing up. I can still remember my coach tell me to get to the byline, pick out the late runner, and cut it back to him. Simple as:

As always, 20 minutes, super star, game speed -2, fixed cursor
 
For those that played both PES 21 and FK24...whats your take as far as which one is better ? Can you use PES 21 mods etc on FK 24 ? I don't know if its me and the placebo effect but modded PES 21 looks better than FK24
 
guys are you trustful in a future for this game? i mean if one day we would have all current competitions and format
 
Hello Guys,

i need help. I Started to play PES2021 with the Latest VirtuaRed Patch. I only play the Become a Legend mode.

But unfortunately the AI behavior is.. uhm.. boring? Every match i played results in a 0-0, 0-1 or 1-1. Even when my small beginner Club plays against a big one. Every match feels the same and the CPU is mostly passing the ball in midfield.

Is any AI Mod or something like this out there to fix this "problem" ?
I Found some Gameplay mods, but it seems there are not compatible with the VirtuaRed patch.

thank you
 
I wish the defensive AI was more aggressive in this game, they’re super passive and sometimes back away from challenges, not to mention the lack of fouls in the box
 
more and more i play pes 21 (fk24) more i realize its scripted and might look realistic but gameplay it does not provide realistic football fundamentals. i went and tried pes 6 and we9le and those games are just legendary compared to anything else
 
killerfliege said:
Hello Guys,

i need help. I Started to play PES2021 with the Latest VirtuaRed Patch. I only play the Become a Legend mode.

But unfortunately the AI behavior is.. uhm.. boring? Every match i played results in a 0-0, 0-1 or 1-1. Even when my small beginner Club plays against a big one. Every match feels the same and the CPU is mostly passing the ball in midfield.

Is any AI Mod or something like this out there to fix this "problem" ?
I Found some Gameplay mods, but it seems there are not compatible with the VirtuaRed patch.

thank you
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Jeffafc said:
I wish the defensive AI was more aggressive in this game, they’re super passive and sometimes back away from challenges, not to mention the lack of fouls in the box
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I'm sure this was done before but if your in master league you can go can change the tactics of your opponent through participants settings and then stack your opponent with tactics and with fluid formation. And all support settings are all set to on. This would make the AI change tactics throughout the game. Do this for all three preset tactics and when the game starts switch back to your team. I found that the AI would be play so much more dynamically.

Usually include gegenpress

Blacklisted tactics - Don't use
Deep Defensive Line - Replace or use Swarm the box instead
Anchoring

 
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Sometimes I wish I could bring myself to play BAL again. I know I never will given how terrible the AI is in regards to transfers and squad management. I've found a way to enjoy myself in ML, but the problem is the mode is entirely too dependent on team spirit. If it's too low, it's impossible to win. When it gets high enough, you can sim every match and you're almost guaranteed to win all of them.

In my fixed cursor save, my player got injured for 2 months so I simmed all the matches while I was out. We won every single one of them. It really takes the tension out of things.

I've considered playing on lower difficulties to mitigate how dysfunctional your team can be on low team spirit and then increasing it as team spirit improves. But the reality is team spirit will eventually improve so I'll eventually get to the point where winning matches, at least simmed matches, becomes easier.

Idk I'm just rambling at this point. Long story short, team spirit is and has always been an awful mechanic. I'd love if there was a way to remove it.
 
aderow said:
Sometimes I wish I could bring myself to play BAL again. I know I never will given how terrible the AI is in regards to transfers and squad management. I've found a way to enjoy myself in ML, but the problem is the mode is entirely too dependent on team spirit. If it's too low, it's impossible to win. When it gets high enough, you can sim every match and you're almost guaranteed to win all of them.

In my fixed cursor save, my player got injured for 2 months so I simmed all the matches while I was out. We won every single one of them. It really takes the tension out of things.

I've considered playing on lower difficulties to mitigate how dysfunctional your team can be on low team spirit and then increasing it as team spirit improves. But the reality is team spirit will eventually improve so I'll eventually get to the point where winning matches, at least simmed matches, becomes easier.

Idk I'm just rambling at this point. Long story short, team spirit is and has always been an awful mechanic. I'd love if there was a way to remove it.
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Lately i've been playing league mode instead... Controlling all teams in the league and doing tactics and picking starting 11s for both teams. And i'm having fun! League mode doesn't seem to have the team spirit mechanic from what I've gathered.
 
brakenclaw said:
Lately i've been playing league mode instead... Controlling all teams in the league and doing tactics and picking starting 11s for both teams. And i'm having fun! League mode doesn't seem to have the team spirit mechanic from what I've gathered.
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Yeah league and cup modes don't have team spirit. I understand what Konami was trying to do when they introduced team spirit but they really didn't flesh it out properly. For instance why it only impacts your team and no other teams and not to mention how linear? it makes the experience (feels like it takes the variance out of results if that makes sense).

League mode was an option I'd considered in the past. I just like the evolution and progression that comes with a proper career mode.
 
aderow said:
Yeah league and cup modes don't have team spirit. I understand what Konami was trying to do when they introduced team spirit but they really didn't flesh it out properly. For instance why it only impacts your team and no other teams and not to mention how linear? it makes the experience (feels like it takes the variance out of results if that makes sense).

League mode was an option I'd considered in the past. I just like the evolution and progression that comes with a proper career mode.
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I don't know if this minimizes team spirit and its a bit unorthodox... but in ML i've been starting the game as the opponent team for the first half and then switching back to my team in the second half.

Don't know what it does to that mechanic but the games in the mode have been fair for the few games i've played like this.
 
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