So you understood it, ok us then instead of their, now we don't have budget and we will have our engine maybe at v2 cause Database for V1 is very crazy work for us, we must research first for the best players of every team, then create them, very crazy work!! So we don't have time to create DB and also develop our new engine!!
So we've already gone from "maybe at v1, surely at v2" to "maybe at v2 otherwise dunno".
they=us we are more than one person but I am the leader of this project!!
Database for V1 is very crazy work for us, we must research first for the best players of every team, then create them, very crazy work!!
I know it's a crazy work, man!
Look one game with little database and levels is quite different than a football game(you need kits,faces,stadiums,boots,gloves for more than 10.000 players and more than 100 teams), if you have all of them , you have the game!!!
who said something like that?
I am not asking a big amount for our game, just the basics we need to continue!!
No, that's not how it works.
Nope, I stand by what @rojofa said here.
one game is more real than a flying car,haha, but anyway maybe you are right one demo is better than an idea only, but nowadays is difficult to work without payed for this cause the lack of free time, that's why we need those funds. as for pes 2017 we will have those stadiums at our Game but for now we don't have this game, so we used pes 2017 only for previews, not to sell them!!! With those funds we can make miracles, we are very experienced team!!
The problem is mate, like @*aLe mentioned, We already have a concept similar to yours, also on not only one good football engine but soon to be another: FIFA Classic Patch - And they made that for free! So you're already swimming upstream if you're trying to convince people to PAY for your version with literally no proof of concept, no prototype & you expect people to wait god knows how long before they see any of this let alone play it themselves.
I am not a person like them you said, and everyone who Co operated with me at past already know this! Fifa 14 patch is just a patch, I am speaking for a new game, new gameplay a lot of new things like new modes, etc. Fifa 14 patch just patched fifa 14!
I'm sure that as soon as you show us a demo of this gameplay people will start supporting you.
PREPAID version I don't know if can be real, if be real we will have some exclusives!! yes at 2022 sure we will have something more to show!! Demo idea is very good idea but personally I prefer demos like Konami 10 licensed teams 2-5 stadiums etc. more completely job!
I agree but is quite bit difficult to provide demo right now, I like completely jobs even for demo, like Konami demo! The main reason I want the money is this, I wanted this game production to be my job, so I will do better job. One demo with ~10 teams and some new things that till now don't exist to fifa and pes, and one special completely game!!Even EA use simple red/blue generic players with no stadium when they are showing and talking about gameplay details in their "Pitch Notes";
You need something as simple as this to develop/test gameplay before any emphasis whatsoever is placed on the database/assets... You're also not going to get any licensed content so if anything it's probably illegal to be asking for money and selling the game on the basis that it will include all this supposed content for the entire history of football, or for the same individuals behind the development of the game to be also producing (or even endorsing) the modded content with real player/club likenesses.
This is the last time I will mention anything about this until you show something to make it even slightly believable, and tbh it feels like the conversation is going in circles anyway. No point in talking about it further, until it's at least shown to exist in some form other than grand promises and PES screenshots.
never sell a patch, all the patches I made at past are always free at web, check pes-hellas 2 blog!
The problem is that you're not a small company with history of making games, so unless you show progress of an actual game it will be almost impossible for your project to be funded. There's no previous work, an interview with the leader of the project, etc. People won't trust it unless the presentation of the project is well polished and/or with actual proof of a game being developed.
As I already said above I prefer completely jobs, like fifa, one great DB and then one completely game, new cinematics, new gameplay,new 3D models,new game modes, we can do it from 0 or edit one game and change everything(for me personally is the same, cause in both cases you have a new product), for licenses is a big conversation better leave it for now!!
I am the leader of the project
