eFootball PES 2020 Discussion Thread (PC)

Negatrev said:
I'm not sure whether it affects other monitor speeds. On my 60hz TV running in 1080p (or as a test QHD, using the over-res method, whatever it's called) I just needed VSYNC adaptive (not half this time) and 60fps in game settings for smooth.

Rather than not optimised, I feel they might have only tested it on 60hz monitors/TVs (as that's the main console focus) and, for at least some setups, non-standard refresh rates are causing weird timing issue in how frames are displayed and/or how this coincides with vsync.

Like perhaps vsync, when reducing the framerate, is splitting down the frames to a number divisible cleanly into 60, but not 75/144, so it then has to keep splitting down the frames until is has a number divisible by both on the 60fps frame scaling options? But who knows, I'm just guessing.
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fair shout. When researching vsync, adaptive vsync and fast vsync etc - I am now even more convinced that vsync itself is set to be permanently 'on' inside PES20, causing the micro stutter people experience. Vsync enabled can introduce input lag online especially; and tearing/stutter when FPS drops below standard. (60 on a 60hz or whatever) So some guys on nvidia forum suggested vsync adaptive as the best option. But obviously the best solution of all would be when konami bring the 3 vsync options back into the settings.exe

I have no idea why they thought it a good decision to remove the options tbh, bizarre
 
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is there a way to play the demo when the finished game is installed as well (on PC) ?

Somehow the folder is still existing, but the exe fil is gone and I cannot install it anymore through steam ?

I think the finished game somehow deleted the demo, is that possible ?
 
acealive said:
is there a way to play the demo when the finished game is installed as well (on PC) ?
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There's a thread here how to redownload/reinstall the the demo manually. The full game deletes the demo, but after installing it manually (and staying offline) both versions can peacefully coexist. :)
 
Does anyone know why I can't connect my game online.

Constantly says 'New data assess download unsuccesful'. I guess it's mod related but is there any way I can connect online to update the game when needed?
 
remjohn said:
Turn the difficulty down. This kind of CPU ‘bullshit’ and cheating has always been prevalent in PES and FIFA at higher difficulty levels. It’s how they make it harder.

I know that’s not ideal if lower levels are too easy but maybe try manual controls or play with a worse team to up the challenge. You see less of the bullshit on professional for example. I do think these games are tuned to a certain level and things like superstar and world class just increase the CPU’s psychic abilities.
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This. Playing Second Spanish League with Malaga on Professional. Yes, it‘s a bit too easy but games feel organic, random, lots of different goals. Halfway through ML season, still enjoying it a lot.

Sure, it‘s still full of „PES bullshit moments“ but on that level it’s tolerable in my opinion.
 
greenmachine said:
Just played more ML , my midfielder 10 yards inside his own half, back to halfway line. One of my defenders plays it to him as he has his arm up looking for a pass. Pass made ball nearly there and player about to get ready to take ball under control, a CPU player 2 footed assault right through the back of his legs putting up in the air before ball as gotten to him. Ref pulls Red card , no he doesn't , ok Ref pulls Yellow card , no he does not ? he wags a finger at him. That in a REAL game of Football is a RED card but not in PES20. Last ML before coming here , right winger gets onto a through ball in the CPU penalty box moves forward about 8 yards out plays a ball right across front of 6 yard box. My AMF is coming onto the ball about 7 yards out about to fire it into the back of the net , CPU defender dives in from behind 2 footed right through the back of my players legs and brings him down. Not only is a 2 footed assault , It was a goal scoring opportunity, ref blows - Penalty but no Red card that is a Red card offence in FIFA's and UEFA's rule book, Ref never issued any card. What is it that in PES 2020 2 footed lunges right through the back of a player legs is not a Red card .. anywhere on the park ...

ps before anyone jumps in , yes i know in UK a player brought down in a wide position ie Not a Goal Scoring Oppertunity is not a Red Card , either Yellow or none. If it is a goalscoring oppertuniny its a pen and a red. That reminds me, AMF running at defender outside the D , UI Super Canx at the last moment and swerve by him into the D before I can take one more step further into the D for a 1 v 1 with keeper I am pulled down from behind by the deferder I just swerved pasted. That is another straight Red card .. he gets a Yellow.
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out of interest what difficulty do you play?

(i'm going to take a guess and say professional- and in case you already said, i missed it)
 
pazdzioch564 said:
Are there any problems with matchmaking? I can't find opponent in MyClub and Online Divisions...
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probably spent like 15 mins to find an opponent in brazil on a sunday. was only getting 1 bar ppl. decided to play against one
a guy from israel who won one of the most scripted stupid matches ever, first loss from the weekend (aside from handicap/match day who doesnt count). the guy was a pos kept passing to the gk and flashing pause button
alt+f4 and time to stop i guess
 
when i do play against ppl with good connection the game runs like 3 times faster. or it can just be the handicap being on my side also...
 
NorD. said:
Tactical qouestion. Does a amount of sprint using button during a match affect on player stamina ?
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I've not made any surefire tests without the ball, but sprinting more with the ball almost definitely makes a difference. I have played the same full back in games where I dribbled with him and I ran him to injury. So the same player with the same stamina stat (the injury was only 3 days) and the same motivation in another game and he had almost half his stamina by the end game (when I chose to barely run with him at all).

I can't think of an easy way (except perhaps deliberately running tests using BAL mode) to find out if off the ball sprinting makes a difference.
 
Negatrev said:
You might want to consider trying out this
https://www.evo-web.co.uk/threads/pes-2020-tactics-discussion-real-teams-thread.80854/
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I did it and to be honest, don't really see a big difference. The AI still sits deep and since they still have super human reflexes, it's a desperate job to even get a shot outside the box. Shame the one step easier level is too easy. I probably ain't good enough, but this game doesn't make it too fun to try.

Maybe it's the ML. The cpu does what it feels best to make it a challenge. It only succeeds in making it boring.
 
NobleSavage said:
I did it and to be honest, don't really see a big difference. The AI still sits deep and since they still have super human reflexes, it's a desperate job to even get a shot outside the box. Shame the one step easier level is too easy. I probably ain't good enough, but this game doesn't make it too fun to try.

Maybe it's the ML. The cpu does what it feels best to make it a challenge. It only succeeds in making it boring.
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The klash tactics make an obvious difference in exhibition mode.

In ML, I'm hoping they can have good effect too but I also think that this will only occur once the TS is above a certain value.

Could be false hope but the theory keeps me on a slow burn. [i'm still editing and playing exh matches for now]
 
NobleSavage said:
The cpu does what it feels best to make it a challenge. It only succeeds in making it boring.
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Spot on, but it does it so subtly now but it's still very much there. Players not responding, running in mud, cursor change not happening when you press, R2 tricks suddenly become wishy washy and delayed, touches are huge and unnecessary, when AI gets the ball it can just turn its back and you ain't getting nothing - the CPU just turns this stuff on and off throughout the game (but usually more when you're in the last third). Oh yea, I can certainly stroke it about at the back and turn and twist and turn until my heart's content (ofc the AI just stand back looking at me in between mimicking my actual moves like a sadistic mime artist) but the moment I cross that halfway line and head toward their box suddenly I'm flanked by two terminators and Neymar suddenly becomes a Sunday league large lad with the turning ability of a bus.

I can't stand this dichotomy and I'm supposed to close my eyes and call it realism?

To sum it all up, I love the idea of playing PES 2020 but not the reality which is sad because there are some great touches in there but the things I mentioned overwhelm me and I just want to turn it off. In fact I can't stomach a full game and to be fair I've never said that about ANY Pes game, until now.
 
NobleSavage said:
I did it and to be honest, don't really see a big difference. The AI still sits deep and since they still have super human reflexes, it's a desperate job to even get a shot outside the box. Shame the one step easier level is too easy. I probably ain't good enough, but this game doesn't make it too fun to try.

Maybe it's the ML. The cpu does what it feels best to make it a challenge. It only succeeds in making it boring.
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Just to make sure. You started a new ML after applying his tactics? As changes in tactics in the editor won't apply to an already started ML.
 
I think I actually hate this game. Konami has forgotten about the single-player modes. ML got a cosmetic upgrade because people complained last year but they forgot about BAL. PES 2013 had a better version of BAL even the PS2 version (Had tutoring). If they worked on these modes they would have seen how bad the ai and single-player experience is. There will be a Euro 2020 DLC I wonder if they have plans for the AI
 
ML is horrible

Superstar is too scripted and top player is too passive

I played 20 games, very few fouls, no need to rotate any players as there are no injuries,fatigue effects.

All AI teams do the same thing and score the same goal, They rarely shoot from distance and their def line is so deep coz Konami can’t fix the gk glued to his line bug

Still better than fifa lolz
 
So it is the same old story like every year. I made a decision to apply two year rule to Pes and I will stick to it.

One good thing is that pace is slower now, so if you got the game - don't give up, just follow Inca's dt18s - he always finds a solution.

Test 2019 gameplay in your last active ML with whatever dt18 is your most played, by deleting SYSTEM00000000 creating a new one to reset the stats and you will notice that same dt18 plays different. Do the same for every new dt you try.

Too many factors influence gameplay, it is weird.
 
Is it possible to dowload the demo when you bought the final version on steam ? When I select download demo in steam page, the full game is downloading and not the demo. Is there a possibility to play it without entirely removing the final game from my library ?

It's just annoying in the final game that referee don't whistle like the demo. It causes a brainless defense press one button to take the ball back + finesse dribble seems useless at the moment
 
fatehasfans said:
Spot on, but it does it so subtly now but it's still very much there. Players not responding, running in mud, cursor change not happening when you press, R2 tricks suddenly become wishy washy and delayed, touches are huge and unnecessary, when AI gets the ball it can just turn its back and you ain't getting nothing - the CPU just turns this stuff on and off throughout the game (but usually more when you're in the last third). Oh yea, I can certainly stroke it about at the back and turn and twist and turn until my heart's content (ofc the AI just stand back looking at me in between mimicking my actual moves like a sadistic mime artist) but the moment I cross that halfway line and head toward their box suddenly I'm flanked by two terminators and Neymar suddenly becomes a Sunday league large lad with the turning ability of a bus.

I can't stand this dichotomy and I'm supposed to close my eyes and call it realism?

To sum it all up, I love the idea of playing PES 2020 but not the reality which is sad because there are some great touches in there but the things I mentioned overwhelm me and I just want to turn it off. In fact I can't stomach a full game and to be fair I've never said that about ANY Pes game, until now.
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i hope you didn t pay a lot for this game :)
 
Bruno28 said:
Is it possible to dowload the demo when you bought the final version on steam ? When I select download demo in steam page, the full game is downloading and not the demo. Is there a possibility to play it without entirely removing the final game from my library ?

It's just annoying in the final game that referee don't whistle like the demo. It causes a brainless defense press one button to take the ball back + finesse dribble seems useless at the moment
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Literally asked few posts above
https://www.evo-web.co.uk/threads/g...emo-version-1-0-first-version-released.80852/
 
Hello guys. Excuse me if I post this question in this topic but I need your help. Could you give me PNG pictures of GP coins, myclub coins and ball of myclub? (Black ball, gold ball, ecc.). If is it possible I need also PES start menu pictures and icons (myclub icon, efootball icon, ecc.). I'm working on a picture for the return of PES Shop in the future PES.
I already make a picture for chants and published that picture on my Twitter.


Where is possible to discuss about feedback? Thank you in advance, Antonio.
 
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