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janguv said:
They've switched off MTX purchases until next week, basically so they can ride out the review cycle without being criticised for their monetisation scheme.

As to how others have amazing teams already: think there was a hefty "veteran's bonus" if you met certain criteria from playing myClub last year, and then there's probably also some bonuses people accrued from playing v0.9.1 too, giving them more GP to spend.
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Thanks for the reply mate, you're saying then there's no way to earn anything in game at the moment? Or I'm misunderstanding?

If I can't play to earn better players then why play.
 
A trick for offline players. You can play on Training mode with all the teams of all the countries and all difficulties. The inconvinients: you can't choose stadium, match lenght (it's infinite) and you can't keep record of the goals scored.
 
Playing FUMA I can't really make out when I am using the "stunning" bit, the only thing I see is the long wind up when shooting, which seems to indicate I have indeed used it. Not sure why they won't change the bar to blue like in assisted, there are still changes to the trajectory and power of the shots/passes. You should have a harder manual shot just like you have a harder assisted shot. Also the crosses just look way different. Just have the bloody blue bar in there.
 
Isslander said:
Playing FUMA I can't really make out when I am using the "stunning" bit, the only thing I see is the long wind up when shooting, which seems to indicate I have indeed used it. Not sure why they won't change the bar to blue like in assisted, there are still changes to the trajectory and power of the shots/passes. You should have a harder manual shot just like you have a harder assisted shot. Also the crosses just look way different. Just have the bloody blue bar in there.
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Yes so with FUMA is there still stunning things? cause the bar doesnt change colour
 
captain8lunt said:
Yes so with FUMA is there still stunning things? cause the bar doesnt change colour
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I am pretty sure there are. Someone mentioned it and like I have said I have seen some really long animations when shooting. Plus a couple of hard shots. Not really got the hang of crosses though.
Plus there is no real reason not to have on it manual, manual is mostly for direction.
 
captain8lunt said:
Yes so with FUMA is there still stunning things? cause the bar doesnt change colour
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Played around a bit with it. I thought combining R2 and passes/crosses put more whip on them, without a bar colour change. Felt similar with shots too, and then randomly one turned purple for me. Still on FUMA. So, frankly, I dunno what the hell is going on there.

I was concerned going into it because the Stunning effect is being advertised as improving accuracy, which none of us who play FUMA will want.
 
janguv said:
Played around a bit with it. I thought combining R2 and passes/crosses put more whip on them, without a bar colour change. Felt similar with shots too, and then randomly one turned purple for me. Still on FUMA. So, frankly, I dunno what the hell is going on there.

I was concerned going into it because the Stunning effect is being advertised as improving accuracy, which none of us who play FUMA will want.
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If one did turn purple then maybe I'm just really shit at pulling them off.
 
janguv said:
Yeah there's no way to earn in-game, I think.
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Okay, looks like now is just practice then for events and features to come, guess it makes sense even if I was expecting more from it

(long time PES player won't mention what I was expecting from this mess overall but that's a digression, lol)

Appreciate the response.
 
janguv said:
Played around a bit with it. I thought combining R2 and passes/crosses put more whip on them, without a bar colour change. Felt similar with shots too, and then randomly one turned purple for me. Still on FUMA. So, frankly, I dunno what the hell is going on there.

I was concerned going into it because the Stunning effect is being advertised as improving accuracy, which none of us who play FUMA will want.
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Yeah i turned to pass 3 and basic and it works easily pressing both at the same time but on manual cant get it to go purple at all but standard shooting seems powerful
 
janguv said:
I think it's too early for me to really say how the gameplay is, given the different control scheme and the limited options to actually play the fucking game. My earliest impressions are that it's a sort of sideways step from PES 2021 – not particularly good, but different, and given I've played 2021 (essentially) for a few years now, different feels interesting and good.

I only play FUMA, and there's still a lot of space in the games I played, so it's quite easy to tear up teams with it. In general, this is something that still bothers me going back many games now: the space between the back and the front line of a team is still far too large. It simply does not represent modern football, and a long pass down the middle will normally casually saunter along to a free CF. It's really the basics of team shape, but it's still not there. I wasn't expecting it, but it irks me all the same.

And then there's the AI, which just looks like PES 2021's to me. Players doing inexplicable things, seemingly hard-wired to perform certain duties and unable to adapt flexibly to a situation. I dipped into the Spoony stream for a bit, and saw this, which I clipped:

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx5v37n1kvQT57A7SEizlOcCYzLS1UPhpv
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I was thinking that the defender messing up the first touch straight into the attackers path wasn't so bad. But then the same defender just leaves :APPLAUD: "Not my problem"
 
How do people get 5 legends in day1? Am I missing something?

Based on this (veteran bonus explanation), you can get legends from Chance Deals, but seems like max 2 deals possible:

Code: 
Receive Chance Deals depending on how many of these players you own.
・1 to 5 players: Chance Deal x1
・6 or more players: Chance Deal x2


ffs I just played against Viera, Inzaghi, Kahn and Beckham.
 
guorfan said:
The worst of all of this is game is receiving good feed back, I am feeling we are losing the real football and fortnite games are the main focus from now and is sad
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The problem has never been community feedback. It usually boils down to add more faces and boots because that's what the majority of PES players request on social media channels. The people who make this game also play it, far more than anyone else. They don't need feedback to tell them what they need to improve, they just feel this is either good or they're so underfunded and mismanaged that even if they loathe the gameplay, they can't do much about it. I'd wager it's the first one, regardless of budget. The first thing to do in order to make sure your game is enjoyable is control over your character. PES fails this very basic principle. Being this is a football game, you then move on to AI to make sure your teammates aren't dummies and the AI is challenging and smart. None of this occurs either.

PES gets the foundation wrong, time and time again. So much so that people genuinely believe that something like smooth and realistic animations aren't achievable because they "slow down responsiveness". If your character isn't enjoyable to control, you're not gonna get anywhere. You're building on a broken foundation.

This is why FIFA 08 reveal was such a mindblowing affair. You had players moving like real people, actually planting their feet. Then you added an analog stick function to add depth to that technical marvel and let your players express themselves. Your consumers were engaged from the get go, just look at the first thing they let people do in FIFA 08, both demo and full game, it was an empty pitch with your player and a keeper. They knew they had the foundation right and embraced it.
 
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preak said:
How do people get 5 legends in day1? Am I missing something?

Based on this (veteran bonus explanation), you can get legends from Chance Deals, but seems like max 2 deals possible:

Code: 
Receive Chance Deals depending on how many of these players you own.
・1 to 5 players: Chance Deal x1
・6 or more players: Chance Deal x2


ffs I just played against Viera, Inzaghi, Kahn and Beckham.
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I dont understand how people have 11 players yet alone 4 legends
 
Shikashi said:
The problem has never been community feedback. It usually boils down to add more faces and boots because that's what the majority of PES players request on social media channels. The people who make this game also play it, far more than anyone else. They don't need feedback to tell them what they need to improve, they just feel this is either good or they're so underfunded and mismanaged that even if they loathe the gameplay, they can't do much about it. I'd wager it's the first one, regardless of budget.
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Remember when people were pissed about the "magic boots"? What we won't give for something like that instead of this thing
 
Why on earth is everyone going on about the 5 minutes limit. Surely everyone realises the Steam version just needs that CPK file replaced with an unlocked version, giving us all the teams, full length matches, all the balls? Hopefully I am correct this exists for v1.00 !

...and apologies to non-Steam players who cannot of course do this
 
If you don't care about match atmosphere or anything just play an endless match in training mode. You can pick any team and play forever. The ai is definitely better than 2021. Players do tricks and dribble properly.
 
How much sensitive is this game to left/right analog sticks? My DS4 has small occasional drifts so I wonder does that affect me. It's unnoticeable in most games.
 
It definitely still needs lots of work but I've scored some goals I've never seen in a PES game before, very satisfying.

Just wish I could play something of substance offline.......
 
Isslander said:
If one did turn purple then maybe I'm just really shit at pulling them off.
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You're not. You were previously right! The power bar is currently glitched on manual, but the modifier itself is really working. I tried to test it, watching animations for stunning modifier on manual and then assisted.

Only the shooting can turn blue at random, but everytime your player takes additional steps he's on the modifier. On assisted though, the bar always turns blue - manual is bugged.. the bar won't show it sometimes but you will be pulling off a a stunning pass/shot/through ball.
 
janguv said:
I think it's too early for me to really say how the gameplay is, given the different control scheme and the limited options to actually play the fucking game. My earliest impressions are that it's a sort of sideways step from PES 2021 – not particularly good, but different, and given I've played 2021 (essentially) for a few years now, different feels interesting and good.

I only play FUMA, and there's still a lot of space in the games I played, so it's quite easy to tear up teams with it. In general, this is something that still bothers me going back many games now: the space between the back and the front line of a team is still far too large. It simply does not represent modern football, and a long pass down the middle will normally casually saunter along to a free CF. It's really the basics of team shape, but it's still not there. I wasn't expecting it, but it irks me all the same.

And then there's the AI, which just looks like PES 2021's to me. Players doing inexplicable things, seemingly hard-wired to perform certain duties and unable to adapt flexibly to a situation. I dipped into the Spoony stream for a bit, and saw this, which I clipped:

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx5v37n1kvQT57A7SEizlOcCYzLS1UPhpv
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That was shocking. I hope the developers saw this mess
 
I gave eFootball a bit more time tonight (30 mins in training), and although there is potential, i have to remind myself this should be a game that is so.. so.. so much better and complete than how it is in its current state. I then played some PES2021 with latest Realistic mod from Holland - and a new ball from Hawke's lastest pack.. Some footage:

Pes2021, with the obvious time that went into it, is a finished game - and for me, still has a way better control mechanism in fuma mode than eFootball. Ball physics are way better.. everything is still better than what eFootball presents. Playing PES2021 actually made me feel more disspointment towards this dumbed down eFootball. Well, it may have taken a touch longer than the first version, but ive just re-uninstalled the incomplete sub par mess that is eFootball. Ill continue with modded PES2021 :)
 
OK after a dozen of pc plays and allpying the unlocker mod a can say that they spend 6+ monthes to put pes21 engine in efootball 22
it was faster and easier just to update the season 21-22 on pes21
the game is pes 21 plus some buttons
 
Definitely a step in the right direction, but id say it is at least 3-4 updates/patches away from being anywhere near something i will play a lot of

The thing is, 0.9.0/1 were so poor, that any improvement would have been welcomed and considered a "much better" game. Reality is, this is still unacceptable overall considering we are 7 months or so past its launch date.

They made an absolute disaster of efootball22 and it would not surprise me if this version gets very small updates from now, with the bare minimum improved, while 23 gets worked on... if indeed they make 23!
 
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