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Ximelez said:
Football gaming is dead.

Our only hope is UFL.
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Do you know if UFL going to have proper offline modes? The only bits I've read about it say it's going to be online focused. A shame really if that's the case, as would have liked another football game to come through and shake things up.
 
h3li0 said:
Every country should do like Belgium and forbid loot boxes being sold for real money. Only when that happens maybe gaming returns to what it once was. And then maybe we have onea GTA game for console generation:D:D , and proper football games, that are based on the simulation of the sport and not on casino simulation.
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But you put few bucks in politicians pocket, and its just "video game for kids" ... it will be like this for long time, until eventually it comes in spotlights.

What a world, when GTA released hot-coffee it was planet-wide scandal ... kids gambling parents monthly income its just minor issue.
 
etb10dmk said:
The myClub/eFootball community in a nutshell:

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I just can't imagine how anyone would want to spend that kind of money for what's essentially just some different faces. He's clearly happy to do that though, which is his choice. Just doesn't make sense to me. He could probably use that grand he saves on eFootball 22 to get himself scanned into the game.
 
Please do not even download the free edition just to try it and then uninstall 2 hours later, Konami will find a way to add it to their +1 downloads count and twist it how the game is so popular. Completely ignore it download wise and let it die and make sure Konami suffers. They deserve the worst.

Look at the god damn screen on steam, not even 1 kilobyte of shadow, and the grass, these are PES 2010 PS2/PS3 graphics that are now finally available on most mobile phones.

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That poor ball boy bringing the ball to the Gk is literally the only new thing. And everything else is 50 times worse than 19/20/21 PES.
And look at that horrible blur trying to hide the hideous grass and color palette.
 
Superhoop said:
I don't know what the stats are though for people who purchase these "gambling" elements regularly without accepting that what they are paying for is a lottery.
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That's a bit contorted, as a point. The problem for a gambling addict isn't that they haven't realised it's like a lottery, that it's luck-based. Try pointing that out to those huddled over FOBTs next time you pass by them! Sure, children may not have grasped how these things work, but adult gambling addicts know. Just as alcoholics know what alcohol does to them and how they'll feel once the alcohol begins to leave their system.

So: the issue with gambling in games and eFootball specifically isn't about what the player knows. The problem is that gambling is in the games at all, and gambling is a form of exploitation. For those with such addictions and problems, at-home videogaming was actually a respite: an upfront one-time cost and then a competitive fun experience that you can play for ages without being compelled to spend real money. Now it's a constant temptation in the home. And it is normalised for kids who come across it.
Superhoop said:
Perhaps there should be limits on what people can actually spend on these elements or is that how a seasonal battlepass/matchpass works? I don't know the ins and outs, but yep, they need to put limits on what people can spend to protect those who have no control on their spending. It's ridiculous that a kid can get their parents credit card and spend thousands on things like FUT. Sadly, gaming companies will take advantage of things like that which is completely abhorrent. It's not just an eFootball problem, it's much wider than that too.
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Yes, there should (at least) be limits, if we are happy at all to accept gambling still being in the games (and games with low age ratings too). The season pass style of payment is at least a one-time thing for that "season", yeah. But depending on the pass, it can be scummy in other ways: essentially paywalling lots of content or making it available only through unreasonable amounts of grinding. It bifurcates the playerbase into those who can afford and who can't, and in some games the cosmetic rewards become a means of instilling FOMO and driving further sales (there's a reason the Fortnite-related "Default!" became a genuine playground insult).
Camaldinho said:
Spot on.

Correct me if I am wrong but this is the first title I've seen take Microtransactions as a Pre-Order bonus (Without the Game, as that is free)? And at a very high price point to go with it.

The game will launch with no microtransactions, so I just don't understand why this bundle is relevant to its release, despite the actual use of microtransactions will come in Mid-November.
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I'm not sure. Maybe some F2P games advertise/sell battle passes in advance, which you could say is kind similar? It's definitely a massive cheek though, what Konami are doing here.
Callmev said:
What makes you think UFL is the answer?
From what I've seen, it's F2P also + not available for PC.
Just curious.
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Also the fact that the project lead had no idea what manual passing was and thought it was a strange request, on his Twitter Q&A lol.
 
Mikhail said:
Has anyone seen TTB latest video? I don’t subscribe to him but it appeared in my suggestions last night. “why fifa will never be a sim” or something similar. Whilst maybe true - he behaves as if PES is some deep, tactical Football Manager style game, which is laughable.

Got to think about those PES Universe bucks and keep the hype train rolling…
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I have seen a few of his videos but I never got the same impression of him.
In fact he is quite critical with PES, specially the new version....he analyzes and mostly has the same opinion about it like 90 percent of us all here.

But yeah, he supports PES universe...but I don´t know much about that...I´ve never used their OF´s, I only know that they charge money for it and there have been a few funny stories about them :)
 
Pyro said:
Please do not even download the free edition just to try it and then uninstall 2 hours later, Konami will find a way to add it to their +1 downloads count and twist it how the game is so popular. Completely ignore it download wise and let it die and make sure Konami suffers. They deserve the worst.

Look at the god damn screen on steam, not even 1 kilobyte of shadow, and the grass, these are PES 2010 PS2/PS3 graphics that are now finally available on most mobile phones.

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That poor ball boy bringing the ball to the Gk is literally the only new thing. And everything else is 50 times worse than 19/20/21 PES.
And look at that horrible blur trying to hide the hideous grass and color palette.
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They've updated the app eventually, because I can't see in the middle the referee with the flag anymore...:LOL:
 
h3li0 said:
Every country should do like Belgium and forbid loot boxes being sold for real money. Only when that happens maybe gaming returns to what it once was. And then maybe we have onea GTA game for console generation:D:D , and proper football games, that are based on the simulation of the sport and not on casino simulation.
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I wonder how are they able to sell these games in arabian and other muslim countries.

Isn't gambling considered haram in those countries? Games containing lootbox should have been immediately banned by that law then. But I guess things are only haram if it doesn't make money :LMAO:
 
Does anybody else feel like the drop of the pre-order sales pages today is the real reason they pushed back their YouTuber preview embargoes to the 23rd?

If it turns out the impressions are underwhelming, that could impact preorder sales. Better to get them in first.
 

janguv said:


Edit: and his thoughts after a load of people telling him what FUMA is about...
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Thanks for that! Had no idea incorporating manual passing would be such an issue. It's the gameplay element that they get spot on in PES, so fair play to Konami on that one.

To keep things balanced, I wish Konami would fix the end of match player ratings. Why is the rating range only seemingly 4.5 - 8.5? Ok, so its not a critical issue, but it does bug me. Takes a hat-trick to get an 8.5. Is a 9 or above even achievable these days?
 
janguv said:
Does anybody else feel like the drop of the pre-order sales pages today is the real reason they pushed back their YouTuber preview embargoes to the 23rd?

If it turns out the impressions are underwhelming, that could impact preorder sales. Better to get them in first.
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That was passing through my mind some moments ago, but this could be just some type of deja-vu coincidence right? :WHISTLE:

 
Callmev said:
What makes you think UFL is the answer?
From what I've seen, it's F2P also + not available for PC.
Just curious.
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Superhoop said:
Do you know if UFL going to have proper offline modes? The only bits I've read about it say it's going to be online focused. A shame really if that's the case, as would have liked another football game to come through and shake things up.
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Just saying it’s the only hope of a decent football game (geared towards genuine football people). F2P and online focus doesn’t necessarily mean bad, it’s just the current example of that model does it very badly.

FIFA will never change and is dead on the most part.

efootball/ PES is officially dead.

Goals is a long long way off.

UFL is the only real hope of a decent football game 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Just throwing one of the benefits of the F2P model into the discussion... It does allow people who can't afford traditional releases of video games to have access to the game. I've always been fortunate to have the money to buy each PES when it's been released, but not everyone is that fortunate (although some may say that we're actually unfortunate to have the money to have bought certain versions of PES). There must be plenty of kids who have friends that have games they can't afford to play online with, so this model does make it easier to rectify that.
 
Superhoop said:
Just throwing one of the benefits of the F2P model into the discussion... It does allow people who can't afford traditional releases of video games to have access to the game. I've always been fortunate to have the money to buy each PES when it's been released, but not everyone is that fortunate (although some may say that we're actually unfortunate to have the money to have bought certain versions of PES). There must be plenty of kids who have friends that have games they can't afford to play online with, so this model does make it easier to rectify that.
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Sadly they won’t last long with Jim, Bob and Mathew upfront from Bolton playing against Ronaldo, Messi and Maradona.
 
Ximelez said:
Just saying it’s the only hope of a decent football game (geared towards genuine football people). F2P and online focus doesn’t necessarily mean bad, it’s just the current example of that model does it very badly.

FIFA will never change and is dead on the most part.

efootball/ PES is officially dead.

Goals is a long long way off.

UFL is the only real hope of a decent football game 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Ah, fair enough! Will be good to see what they come up with on UFL. I'm still waiting for a solid online football game experience, so happy to try something else if they nail it.

Not sure if anyone is into boxing games on here, but eSports Boxing Club is shaping up nicely. Just good to see someone is filling that gap after 10 years of no Fight Night games.
 
Paynekiller said:
People are negative because it's hard to find any positives. We've barely seen the game let alone played it.
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It’s not like people are negative for negative sake and no reason. There’s plenty of red flags that bring light to historical issues. When you start seeing similar patterns in something that brought previous bad results, I think it’s fair to be concerned it’s heading to a similar undesirable outcome.
 
Mikhail said:
Has anyone seen TTB latest video? I don’t subscribe to him but it appeared in my suggestions last night. “why fifa will never be a sim” or something similar. Whilst maybe true - he behaves as if PES is some deep, tactical Football Manager style game, which is laughable.

Got to think about those PES Universe bucks and keep the hype train rolling…
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I've seen it too. He is right about Fifa, but not about Efootball. Efootball is no sim, its only more difficult then Fifa is. Although, i always loose when i am playing Fifa and win with PES..

Fifa does have more options. Carreer mode is much more fun, ambiance in stadium is incomparable.
Efootball is not even a F2P. But a demo. Then you have to pay for ML or others modes. Its an joke!

All of the people here had right about the online test demo, i was'nt. PES is dead.
 
Superhoop said:
I'd hope that anyone who is interested in the online mode can say so on here without being made to feel small or ashamed. Everyone's entitled to like what they like and express that opinion without being mocked. Fair enough if you're not interested in the online aspect, but let's be respectful of eachother.
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I’d love a good game of football that’s the same online and off. I think most would and online is bashed because it’s seen as the focus of gameplay creation. Where as a good game can be played online no problem. I’m online a lot for co op and love co op if the games good. Which neither had been for a long time.

Fifa 16 was great for a few weeks and then they updated the defenders to ballet dancers and the forwards could just jog around them.
 
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