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Joga said:
I think we wore the same boots bro :LOL:
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Also my bad on on the Spoony vid, I didn't know which footage he was on about.
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This image could be a clue??? Maybe there are 2 football games instead of one? Maybe the Italian league could be licensed and have Baggio as an ambassador? Lots of easter eggs and mystics about shoes/boots are trending lately; when I see pictures of shoes/boots here something's going on... (aka Lygaaaaaard) :LOL:
 
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etb10dmk said:
This image could be a clue??? Maybe there are 2 football games instead of one? Maybe the Italian league could be licensed and have Baggio as an ambassador? Lots of easter eggs and mystics about shoes/boots are trending lately; when I see pictures of shoes/boots here something it's going on... (aka Lygaaaaaard) :LOL:
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You have a wild imagination power. I love it :)
 
martyl2 said:
I messaged him looking a link to an option file update and he sent me a PayPal link to send monies
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This is disgusting yet doesn’t surprise me.

I have links to every PES Universe Option File and if anyone wants one, let me know. I never pay for them - just search on YouTube and there are always people offering links to Google drive. Don’t pay for that stuff - hopefully the PES Universe ‘business’ will disappear with eFootball over the coming months and years.

True Brits will then have to go back to his dodgy commentary for the Eurosport channel and Spoony back to working at Dominos.

And I don’t want anyone telling me that we can’t criticise these people - they literally charge real money for using other company’s PNG files for logos etc. And they’re also extremely rude and arrogant about it all so fuck them. They’re everything that is wrong with modern day PES.
 
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Joga said:
I think we wore the same boots bro :LOL:
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Also my bad on on the Spoony vid, I didn't know which footage he was on about.
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It's the same model but the "10" version from i think 1994 or 1995! My first football shoes with a real "brand" like Diadora :LOL:
Before i used to buy some shoes that after 15 shots on goals, they literally exploded (no i'm joking for the price it was okay... But nothing comparable to those models the feeling and the impact :LOVE: no joke but a real pro model of footie boots is uncomparable. It's no joke, you feel completely different from a model to another well, at our respective levels of course)

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But i gotted also indoor football shoes even more than real football boots, it's a pretty different feeling, less "hard" more malleable. Also, it was less durable (of course) but we played also a lot on flat pitch, more street with asphalt, we gotted all type of pitch type size were i was (like from 7-7 vs matchs, a bit like pitch for youth, perfect for us)
 
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Mikhail said:
This is disgusting yet doesn’t surprise me.

I have links to every PES Universe Option File and if anyone wants one, let me know. I never pay for them - just search on YouTube and there are always people offering links to Google drive. Don’t pay for that stuff - hopefully the PES Universe ‘business’ will disappear with eFootball over the coming months and years.

True Brits will then have to go back to his dodgy commentary for the Eurosport channel and Spoony back to working at Dominos.

And I don’t want anyone telling me that we can’t criticise these people - they literally charge real money for using other company’s PNG files for logos etc. And they’re also extremely rude and arrogant about it all so fuck them. They’re everything that is wrong with modern day PES.
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I was editor from PES 2020 and 2021, and sincerely it's a full time job. But i wasn't at all there before 2019 and thinked their OF was pretty bad.
We worked on a very ugly basis, and believe me sometimes it's harder to correct people mistakes than doing the thing yourself.

But they didn't say anything on their account, promising stuffs to people, hidden stuff to people thinked we were a big team... Yes, they're a big team of kitsmakers.
But in term of database we were... 2 and one helping for 6 teams (only) another 4 (that me and Huigoman got to restore from zero, so loss of time, only names were correct etc.).

All the rest you can see on the V7 is practically all mine and Huigoman (Bundes and Libertadores stats, i've redone practically all MLS players, J-league, 15-22 teams on others euro, remove duplicates on AFC... Created all Others Asia from scratch or older version and updated it. Things that the "boss" didn't even know it was possible to do. But i'm editing i mean "really" editing since PES 2! I even remember we rewrited Riquelme over Rivaldo as he left lol, and found that all player from PES 1 got "+10" in stats...)

Sincerely, if an editor is doing a job like i've done... I would say "it's like working. But for free". I received some small gift at the beginning then nothing.
If i count all i've done to reach V7 (EDIT/ i didn't worked on V6 for information but all until V5 and the last V7 first version yes, released pretty late, 5 july i don't even know what V6 looks like, should be plenty of errors but "he" wanted to release a version with transfers ASAP)... And even the last version, i forgot some "teds" and i wasn't done yet in my taste. Just imagine all the database to export... Mostly because of that MLS and their non stop transfers in and out. I never wanted MLS at first, but MX or whatever else, with transfers ending on February, not April.

So no to give to Pesuniverse, but to editors, under pressure for a new version etc. i changed my mind about the "doing all for free".
It depend on one big thing: -If you're doing it because you want it for yourself, or if you're doing stuff you don't even care or like for people.
I never wanted MLS, but i've done the teams faces and stats the best i could (there's 26-27 teams, all updated even in stats for every player, it's not a simple "update"...)
There's also the level of edition, precision that matters. I wouldn't pay for some O.F. i saw with just kits, players names, just changing hairstyle and a bit Overall and it's done. If i do the maths, i can do one league every 4 days by taking my time, if i got kits. The amount of work isn't comparable to check every single stats, build a system to gives overall like / if it was Konami standard, and you were a real data editor working for them. And building faces, assigning boots for all players, checking face in every angle (one big mistake that facemakers don't focus on : the side part of the face. I saw many player looking good from the front, but with a side part super strange with nose +7 length, mouth -7.... In game, the result looks super weird)
 
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Thespeedster84 said:
I think..
1. I am sure they've watched your channel.
2. You've been providing graphically realistic looking PES 2021
3. They are avoiding any negative review on graphic side of the new efootball.
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To be fair it's unfair to talk about graphics in the leaked footage from China because clearly the 3D grass wasn't ready, and we've already seen proof it exists in the Gamescom footage and confirmed by Kimura. What's not fair is that it's September and they don't have grass ready for their game that is supposed to launch in a few weeks. Tells me that their workflow was severely impeded by Covid and that they are releasing a barebones game missing kicks, missing the new supercancel, missing GRASS, missing tactic editing etc. Just unforgivable even for a demo, but this is by no means a full release.
 
The_Knight said:
To be fair it's unfair to talk about graphics in the leaked footage from China because clearly the 3D grass wasn't ready, and we've already seen proof it exists in the Gamescom footage and confirmed by Kimura. What's not fair is that it's September and they don't have grass ready for their game that is supposed to launch in a few weeks. Tells me that their workflow was severely impeded by Covid and that they are releasing a barebones game missing kicks, missing the new supercancel, missing GRASS, missing tactic editing etc. Just unforgivable even for a demo, but this is by no means a full release.
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It's free, so they just don't care anymore because they don't feel any pressure towards finalizing their work. People that got some early access on it are those myClubers and some people with lots of followers that are into eSports who can influence the "right" crowd. And when I say "crowd" they don't care about people like you or like me anymore because they have all the Asia who loves to invest in mobiles & microtransaction commodities. We are just a small forgotten part into this now, so don't get your hopes too high about those technical or realistic parts of the eFootball gameplay... It's F2P so expect every change that they'll do will be a slow process full of unfinished work that will reflect some consequences towards it, and for that reason they'll prefer the entire ocean of blind casual users instead of a small lake like us who are nitpicking everything...
 
Don't remove "spoony" from that post.
Or i will personnally found where you live, and don't wait for me to use the door to entering on your house, but with Hannibal Smith vehicle, so that thing


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That's what happen when you say "fuck pizza"

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I was wondering... What if, somebody or some group of people with knowledge in programing could get the UE5 license and open a kick starter to make a PES 5/6 (but called differently not Goalzzz :LOL:). By that I mean good FOOTBALL (that doesn't mean simulation at 100%), respecting the freeness of the play with just some minor changes, top notch graphics, no commentary at all, 100% fake leagues, fake teams, and fake competitions, but all considered by us just as slots for editing, a clean and simple UI, 100% just offline made for enthusiasts and modders, a simple but nice presentation, an improved team/player career mode, with the FIFPro license using a part of the funds, making a game for a niche crowd like us... Could be a lot of work, but kickstarter did some miracles in the past to support awesome talent... I'll donate & support something like it directly knowing that we also have in this world some spectacular modders... Think about it, legally can be achievable because everything will be fake and just the players could be used as official...
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
You are crossing that fine line there. Dont say anything about pizzas!
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That's what i said to him bro (i said don't remove "spoony" from that message / means just keeping F*** P***** or i will do an "Hannibal Smith" thing in his direction, with the A-Team super Van charging in his house )
We're on the same boat. I'm against, but i would retablish Death sentence for saying "F*** P*****".
Even saying or writing those two words is forbidden, i shouldn't have, sorry for that.
 
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Superhoop said:
While we wait for an eFootball Master League, is it worth me getting the PES 21 season update even though I already have PES 20? I've played a bit of 21 Lite for some MyClub, but wondering if there are any gameplay and/or ai improvements at all with 21 over 20? I may just buy a physical copy anyway so I own the last ever PES, but keen to know if there are any improvements beyond squad updates.
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My prediction is you will be waiting for a very long time.
HeWillKnockFourTimes said:
Basically saying they will get them as soon as possible.
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Thing is with the licenses. I can't even be Angry at EA about it now. Konami have given them a massive open goal to do this as their new model doesn't rely on league licenses. I even wonder if the new 'master league' will be reminiscent of what we used to see in the PS2 days in terms of team and league structure. An offline team building mode against the official PES licensed clubs.
 
i bought pes 21 because guys like spoony pizza made videos saying that the gameplay was better and looked like the 20 demo

wheter coinami release a gameplay without scripting (like they did before) so that before release day ppl played and have good opinions about it and after they changed the gameplay

or i would have to agree with the other guys about spoony pizza
 
Just let it die fellas. It’s like a bunch of heartbroken lads pining for an ex girlfriend who has moved on.

mad for true brits and spooky they are both clearly on the take because all of a sudden they’ve become less critical of efootball and more upbeat, which is ridiculous considering there’s been nothing to go on.

as for fifa that’s meh too but at least they are keeping leagues. Not much of a win but it’s something. We really need a football kingdom 2
 
Were did you readed that they didn't keeped leagues.
Please just wait before stating some stuffs totally out of an hat like this.
Focus on what they said really, like interview etc., saying there will be 600 licenced clubs etc.
I don't remember where it was, i was a bit "how much? not possible" when i readed it, but it was like a promo for the game.
But they said licenced, that's means "kits/logo", perhaps you're right about the data i can't say the opposite.

The "promotion" stuff said "choose between 600 licenced clubs to build your team in our new mode etc." talking about the Myclub lookalike.
We talked about it some pages ago!
 
Antoine said:
Just let it die fellas. It’s like a bunch of heartbroken lads pining for an ex girlfriend who has moved on.

mad for true brits and spooky they are both clearly on the take because all of a sudden they’ve become less critical of efootball and more upbeat, which is ridiculous considering there’s been nothing to go on.

as for fifa that’s meh too but at least they are keeping leagues. Not much of a win but it’s something. We really need a football kingdom 2
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I've never received anything from Konami but even I am recently kindof looking forward to eFootball, at least the full version of it. Simply because of the new Physical Defending, 'Manual Dribbling' (remapped Finesse Dribbling to a 'gentle' tilt of left stick), the fact special kicks aren't random and require more time to pull off with more deliberation (R2), the fixed receiving animation when the ball is behind you, the easier supercancel, as well as other things I need to verify first, like the fixed collisions/fouls and the better ball physics.

Sure the graphics suck, the grass isn't ready, tactics aren't editable on launch, special kicks aren't doable on launch, and a whole bunch of crap. But it should all be fixed by Q1 2022. I just want to know the game will be editable with stadiums etc.
 
PES 21 arrived today. Not had a chance to play it, but glad I have the last PES now. I didn't own a PS4 Pro, so playing this on a PS5 will feel like a step up on PES 20 which I played 99% of the time on my standard PS4. It'll also be the first time I start a ML at the end of a PES game season, so with fairly up to date squads it'll feel more like a PES 2022 hopefully.

If eFootball doesn't deliver a sufficient ML, then I'm sure PES 21 will keep me busy for a long time. Although without any knowledge at all of when eFootball will get it's ML mode, I have March in my head for some reason for that. But ML will only be worth it if the game plays well and the ai is decent. Doesn't sound particularly promising if they supposedly aren't putting much time into single player ai, but that's only speculation so will have to see what they deliver.
 
Rip-IssPesFifa said:
People want Konami to fail miserably rather than put out a good game 🤣

While i expect the worse theres nothing id love better than for us to get a good game. I dont get the joy for Konami putting out a awful game?
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Exactly. That would mean we have nothing to play. eFootball just needs a few graphical mods, or the UE5 upgrade. Then nobody will be complaining, except about the animations which need serious machine learning work.
 
The_Knight said:
Exactly. That would mean we have nothing to play. eFootball just needs a few graphical mods, or the UE5 upgrade. Then nobody will be complaining, except about the animations which need serious machine learning work.
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You're ignoring the whole "we've found a new crowd" bit. We already have nothing to play as both games are currently not for us. Why on earth should we hope it's a success? May both fifa & efootball die a miserable death, so that we may get a football game again instead of their e-sport 1v1 card collecting garbage.
 
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Hmm .... I wake up this morning and i found this in my email box :

And there were a lot of questions inside, and one of them was this:


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If anyone is interested in the survey but has not received such an email, I can share the link.
 
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The_Knight said:
Exactly. That would mean we have nothing to play. eFootball just needs a few graphical mods, or the UE5 upgrade. Then nobody will be complaining, except about the animations which need serious machine learning work.
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Just watched your PES 21 analysis. Really well done and definitely feel it was worth getting this now. Hopefully I’ll get to try it out for the first time later!
 
Superhoop said:
PES 21 arrived today. Not had a chance to play it, but glad I have the last PES now. I didn't own a PS4 Pro, so playing this on a PS5 will feel like a step up on PES 20 which I played 99% of the time on my standard PS4. It'll also be the first time I start a ML at the end of a PES game season, so with fairly up to date squads it'll feel more like a PES 2022 hopefully.

If eFootball doesn't deliver a sufficient ML, then I'm sure PES 21 will keep me busy for a long time. Although without any knowledge at all of when eFootball will get it's ML mode, I have March in my head for some reason for that. But ML will only be worth it if the game plays well and the ai is decent. Doesn't sound particularly promising if they supposedly aren't putting much time into single player ai, but that's only speculation so will have to see what they deliver.
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The aim in eFootball is clearly in online play. They have given a promise of a ML dlc, but no date or any details. Since every other mode is only taking people away from the online game, it's not too hard to guess that they'll not be putting too much effort into them.

Online experiences in previous games have given me nothing to look forward to. So since this game is going to be free, I'll probably try it, but have zero expectations.

Then again, if I'm wrong and they truly are putting effort into ML, and I really hope they do, maybe this will turn out fine. I'm not holding my breath...
 
manmachine said:
You're ignoring the whole "we've found a new crowd" bit. We already have nothing to play as both games are currently not for us. So may both fifa & efootball die a miserable death, so that we may get a football game instead of their e-sport 1v1 card collecting garbage.
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If it wasn't for the modding community, PES wouldn't have survived this long to begin with. It's like they kept releasing unfinished crap, knowing the modders would clean it all up for them ever year.

I thought I would play 1 last matchday the other week, whilst I had a clean install. I went in with a good mood & a "just have fun" mindset .. I played 3 games & ALT+F4. I personally have no clue how people play that shyt lol I Patched the game, added gameplay mod & an edit file with proper tactics so the AI can play some actual football and now it is a playable football game. It is not right that some talented fans are always fixing the game for them.

P.S thank you again to every modder here & around the world!
 
I'm assuming there is one final option file for pes 2021 before eFootball comes out, what does everyone recommend? Will probably still play 21 to be honest until everything has be released on eFootball.
 
The_Knight said:
Exactly. That would mean we have nothing to play. eFootball just needs a few graphical mods, or the UE5 upgrade. Then nobody will be complaining, except about the animations which need serious machine learning work.
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People will complain because this is getting way more "personal" than pointing out just some graphics or animations... You are mentioning it like those graphics and animations will be the only problem, when there are more obvious and hideous problems with this google app to point out...
 
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