eFootball (All Platforms)

Jay-Jay 10 said:
In my 40s and while I don't play efootball ass much as I did older PES titles I do every couple of days play some matches in My league and have fun.

To this day still play PES 6 with for example the FIFA 96 patch. What I learned over the years is to see if I can find something in a game that I enjoy and focus on that. For me in nearly every football game I can find something enjoyable.
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I like that answer. I play FL25 and PES 6 Firebird Patch Season 22-23....highly recommend this patch. I find FL25 entertaining and it trully Looks like a real football match on the screen. What happened to entire gaming industry is they all left the arcade-sim style of gameplay and introduced these high animations, graphics, presentation etc...so it mimmicks real football but it will never feel like a real football that older PES titles provide. I score a goal in FL25 and it feels.and looks great but when I score in PES 6...screamers from 25-30 meters it just gives me heart palpitations lol
 
vegasheat said:
I was on EvoWeb years and years ago under different username. I'm 40 and have been playing Konami footie games since ISS 64 and 98 on N64. When I see players playing these new eFootball or FC25 games and they think they are nice it makes me question these players ages...did they ever play PES 3, 5 6 etc ? To say eFootball is a good playable game....it has to come from younger new breed of card collecting players.
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Ok, then. Aged 33 and almost a year, first 'PES' was PES3, although I'd ISS Pro Evo and numerous Fifa's over the years, from the Mega Drive's Fifa International Soccer.

And whilst I think current eFootball is a good game, I don't play it because disk space and frustration at the game. It doesn't mean there isn't fun elements here. Besides, judging someone's opinion to their age is a bit privative. Everyone has their taste and what they enjoy. E.g. most people will cream their pants at ML, whereas I can't stand it and play Exhibition/Kick Off matches 99% of the time
 
Jay-Jay 10 said:
In my 40s and while I don't play efootball ass much as I did older PES titles I do every couple of days play some matches in My league and have fun.

To this day still play PES 6 with for example the FIFA 96 patch. What I learned over the years is to see if I can find something in a game that I enjoy and focus on that. For me in nearly every football game I can find something enjoyable.
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How do I get this pes6 patch?
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
Through passing is TERRIBLE. Its a very sensitive topic since ever as it can be exploited but oh lord, in this game players always underhitting that pass or you have to power it so badly that they boot it out of the stadium. Its awful, better off not even using that button.
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I’m really thinking this is a serious issue myself, the way the throughball works is really bad, basically my issue is the way the player runs towards the destination and always runs away from it. No logic is there if a better way to receive it earlier, especially when it’s slowing down and the defender is clearly getting to it first.

Not sure if I make sense, but it’s making the throughpass unusable.
 
Guys, I'm trying to start eFootball again to see if that new game really is good offline, but even the menu is giving me 20s fps on my 3060 machine. That only happens in full screen. When I play in Windowed mode 1080p, it's smooth but I'm playing on a small window that can't be maximized.

Has anyone had this issue with fullscreen mode?

PS - The menu still looks like cancer

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The_Knight said:
Guys, I'm trying to start eFootball again to see if that new game really is good offline, but even the menu is giving me 20s fps on my 3060 machine. That only happens in full screen. When I play in Windowed mode 1080p, it's smooth but I'm playing on a small window that can't be maximized.

Has anyone had this issue with fullscreen mode?

PS - The menu still looks like cancer

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Try doing this:
Right-click the desktop application's shortcut or the taskbar icon of the app you want to adjust.
Select Properties.
Go to the Compatibility tab.
Check the box next to Override high DPI scaling behavior.
Under the Scaling performed by drop-down menu, choose System (Enhanced).
 
endo said:
Try doing this:
Right-click the desktop application's shortcut or the taskbar icon of the app you want to adjust.
Select Properties.
Go to the Compatibility tab.
Check the box next to Override high DPI scaling behavior.
Under the Scaling performed by drop-down menu, choose System (Enhanced).
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Thanks, it's a tad smoother now but literally running on the left half of the screen only :D

Edit: oh it's actually not even smooth, still 20s in the match
 
It's not this... You just need to change resolution scalling. I have 4K monitor and if i leave it set on 100%, game will run in native 4K resolution. It's in game setting, you can find this when you are in game menu in options. This game is not great optimized to run in native 4K.

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vegasheat said:
I like that answer. I play FL25 and PES 6 Firebird Patch Season 22-23....highly recommend this patch. I find FL25 entertaining and it trully Looks like a real football match on the screen. What happened to entire gaming industry is they all left the arcade-sim style of gameplay and introduced these high animations, graphics, presentation etc...so it mimmicks real football but it will never feel like a real football that older PES titles provide. I score a goal in FL25 and it feels.and looks great but when I score in PES 6...screamers from 25-30 meters it just gives me heart palpitations lol
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There are only a few options out there if someone wants a decent football game. It's either FL 25 or FIFA 16. FL 25 has its flaws but with all the add-ons it's a no brainer. If someone wants a modern PES 5 or WE9 LE there's no other option. KONAMI had a great base with PES 2021, they just needed to hire 2-3 devs from the fanbase to create the best football game ever. Shocking, nonsense decisions by the company.
 
krzysiek923 said:
It's not this... You just need to change resolution scalling. I have 4K monitor and if i leave it set on 100%, game will run in native 4K resolution. It's in game setting, you can find this when you are in game menu in options. This game is not great optimized to run in native 4K.

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Thanks bud, I'm already running it at 50% of the 4K and it doesn't go lower than this, but even the menu stutters and runs in the 20s.
 
fear said:
There are only a few options out there if someone wants a decent football game. It's either FL 25 or FIFA 16. FL 25 has its flaws but with all the add-ons it's a no brainer. If someone wants a modern PES 5 or WE9 LE there's no other option. KONAMI had a great base with PES 2021, they just needed to hire 2-3 devs from the fanbase to create the best football game ever. Shocking, nonsense decisions by the company.
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I think they're making piles and piles of money selling player card lottery tickets to kids that they're probably regretting not transitioning to eFootball earlier.
 
vegasheat said:
This game is utter shit compared to ANY previous PES. How old are you players ?
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I gotta say, this post does come off as condescending...
vegasheat said:
I was on EvoWeb years and years ago under different username. I'm 40 and have been playing Konami footie games since ISS 64 and 98 on N64. When I see players playing these new eFootball or FC25 games and they think they are nice it makes me question these players ages...did they ever play PES 3, 5 6 etc ? To say eFootball is a good playable game....it has to come from younger new breed of card collecting players.
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You'll find a lot of people on Evo-Web are probably over 30 like yourself and a lot of us have grown up with all the classics, it shouldn't invalidate people's enjoyment of eFootball. Yes, the online card collecting priority of the devs is disappointing but what's new these days, almost all companies are at it and it's not going to change.

There's some very good elements of eFootball's gameplay and that's what makes it so frustrating to most of us on this forum that the game has potential but takes a back seat to the quick turnover of it's card mode. Also, it's probably true that young players play this and this philosophy of games is their reference point, it would be normal to them probably how we had an expectation for a certain standard of content in our games when we were young compared to the generation before ours who were probably blown away just to have 3D graphics in a game no matter how primitive the gameplay itself was.
 
Hels The Ronin said:
If you ask me, personally, what'd be more gamechanging in terms of gameplay, is having more than 3/4 speeds (Sprint, Run, Jog and walk) and most importantly, make the AI use different gradiations of speed more accordingly to the situations, and also make them vary in the stamina consumption. But we don't have the tools for that, so it is what it is. Also, how AI runs into a possition to create a new passing lane, giving short supports to passes, having correct marks, not having the CB running away from the mark as they do sometimes... THAT is gamechanger, and we don't see it so often cause it's not that easy to make. Even if it can be made to a certain extent, I insist, we are really have or hands tied up since we don't have the code and we don't know how the game works internally (at least not me) and which function calls which value through which memory direction, etc.
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Absolutely spot on with this post. These are those gameplay elements, or animations, that the game desperately needs. As much as I love PES 21's modding - I just can't look past the lack of realistic animations in these areas. I've tried within the formation screen to position players so that their runs into those positions are more measured, but it doesn't help the defender's reaction. From there it's an instant retreat or instant attack - hardly any middle ground or any sense of a proper transition within the game.
 
Marlon Anthony said:
I gotta say, this post does come off as condescending...

You'll find a lot of people on Evo-Web are probably over 30 like yourself and a lot of us have grown up with all the classics, it shouldn't invalidate people's enjoyment of eFootball. Yes, the online card collecting priority of the devs is disappointing but what's new these days, almost all companies are at it and it's not going to change.

There's some very good elements of eFootball's gameplay and that's what makes it so frustrating to most of us on this forum that the game has potential but takes a back seat to the quick turnover of it's card mode. Also, it's probably true that young players play this and this philosophy of games is their reference point, it would be normal to them probably how we had an expectation for a certain standard of content in our games when we were young compared to the generation before ours who were probably blown away just to have 3D graphics in a game no matter how primitive the gameplay itself was.
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It's not going to change so long as outright gambling is made legal in games. Gambling is a big business and the house always wins. Until regulatory authorities clamp down on this circus, football game devs will keep developing games with the purpose of selling lottery tickets to kids as they get hooked onto the dopamine and endorphins generated by these "surprise mechanics" aka spin-based card selling. There are much harder, but legitimate and not morally compromised ways to generate money in a football game, but why bother when regulatory authorities haven't forced that yet?
 
Matt10 said:
Absolutely spot on with this post. These are those gameplay elements, or animations, that the game desperately needs. As much as I love PES 21's modding - I just can't look past the lack of realistic animations in these areas. I've tried within the formation screen to position players so that their runs into those positions are more measured, but it doesn't help the defender's reaction. From there it's an instant retreat or instant attack - hardly any middle ground or any sense of a proper transition within the game.
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Exactly, there's no middle ground neither transition, and most important, is quite rare to see CPU stopping with the ball. This is due the fact they don't have to think as a human, or calculate a pass or a shot, neither have too much unprecission on their actions. So they are not forced to do a slow, careful approach, and they can ALWAYS play fast towards the front.

The other part is that pressure is always held quite wrong in football games. Because of the fact that they want to make defending more manual, the games end up not making the players that you control pressure properly. I hate to say but EA FC has some better ideas than PES in this sense, cause PES (won't cound eFootball since it completely trivializes game tactics) best of cases, divides this in 2 phases: with, and without the ball (since main formation is never used if you have fluid formation). While I think this is a great idea somehow, there's something that EA FC does better, that is making A WHOLE SET OF TACTICS for each level of attack, like superoffensive, offensive, balanced, defensive and superdefensive. Now, while PES also has 3 main tactics you can choose one being offensive, the other standard and the other a 3rd one... 1 the AI teams don't use this 3 tactics and 2, they are not tied to the attack/defense levels of the team (like super red, red, blue or hyperblue) like it does happen on EA FC. Now, don't get me wrong, I still think that PES has some cool ideas under the table, but it limits you and the AI a lot on how much the player should do when on the pitch. While base gp is way more realistic and it is easier medium decently results when modding it, is way more difficult to get a more refined level of gameplay, not to say impossible.

Let's face something. There's more under the table in EA FC, is just that EA wants a faster gameplay because of the audience that they point towards, but with this year change in simulation and tactic set of sliders, there's a step closer towards this kind of gameplay we want to get. And with the work of modders it can get much, MUCH better. It will be a slow progress, essentially because working on animation synchronization, sliding issues and natural movements while slowing down players max speed is quite difficult. If you add to this that game flow and speed has also a lot to do with errors and accuracy, and also defence pressure and automatization so that players actually defend without you doing everything, and all the values you need to touch for them having in count the vast amount of them there is and the fact that many are deprecated... well, you can guess that game is quite difficult to balance properly.

When dealing with all things, my first approach is to find and detect which values have to do with acceleration and actually work, and how you can slow down the whole spectre of accel/speed values in order to make game work better. Dribbling acceleration boost has to be nerfed if not completely (or almost) erased, which is the easiest thing to do. But still then you have to deal with skills effectivenes, that almost erase defenders ball track ability. This is another thing to be tackled, having defenders being able to track ball better when standing still or waiting for the defender, and have less tackling boost, so the defender is more tactical and less... rushed. Once you do this and managed to work on the main speed, and 1vs1 situations, another thing to work is ball passing speed. And lastly, but not least, tactical maneuvering from the team. As you can see, the work is from microactions (1vs1 dribbling, passing, etc.) to how teams deal with this actions. The fact of reducing micro efectiveness already makes the game feel more tactical, but still then, you have to boost even more correct positioning and how the game works.

Summing it up, it's a whole years work, and since EA is actually evolving their gameplay from one year to another, cause they effectively end systems they started building the previous year but couldn't finish, and deprecate old methods, the mods can't completely be ported from one year to the next.

This translates that for the user, is better to keep with previous year entry mods until december/january of the next year, and is also the reason of why we see PES modding gaining followers back again every summer. Simple reason, with FIFA/EA FC not being able to tweak to the base extent we really want by the end of the summer (yet being each year closer), and EA changing so many things from one year to the other (not for the base user but indeed for the modders), it's easier to find something stable and already known in PES every end of summer (due to EA FC modders fed up with EA updates and looking more already into the next entry) when you get bored of EA FC not getting the results you wanted.

It is a neverending cycle, yet each year, I feel FIFA/EA FC has got more terrain over PES, with exception of this last summer due to EA FC 24 being a flop due to being itself a bad base (and yes FIFA 23 was a better base than EA FC 24, that had a lot of unfinished systems), unlike this EA FC 25.

If you ask me, both as user and modder, even when I haven't tried EA FC 25, only from what I've saw when looking at some EBX with a friend and some bits I've seen of gameplay, this EA FC 25 has way more potential than EA FC 24. EA seems to have tackled skating a bit, and there's more options to tweak certain speed related things than previous year. Putting all things together I have quite much faith that something really good can be done this year. Not something that completely fullfills us hardcore simulation football fans, but something close to modded PES 2021 or FIFA 16, or maybe something even better. Time will tell though, if we are able to find out every small change in EA FC nature this year.
 
Playing with AI on PA4 makes no sense, since the effect is the same as on PA3. You can't play in a way that surprises the CPU, what's the point of choosing the strength and direction, since due to scripts and game limitations, CPU players will always be in the "right" place anyway. No physics, player statistics don't play their part. In terms of passing, unpredictability of moves, this game is lame. You can't really play unconventionally here, passing in this game is binary. In PES there was speed-cap, but here is even worse passing-cap - on manual passing!
 
Nice points guys. For me the biggest advantage of PES 21 and Football Life is that your defense is operating like a team unit, you don't have to babysit each one of them. The option for cpu assisted tackles is also incredible in these games. You can play zonal defense and your cpu teammates will react to battling automatically for the ball when needed. This is FIFA's biggest flaw. Imagine if 2K did the same for their NBA game. The backlash would have been huge but somehow EA keeps getting away with it. Bonkers.
 
PSMember79 said:
I’m really thinking this is a serious issue myself, the way the throughball works is really bad, basically my issue is the way the player runs towards the destination and always runs away from it. No logic is there if a better way to receive it earlier, especially when it’s slowing down and the defender is clearly getting to it first.

Not sure if I make sense, but it’s making the throughpass unusable.
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The lobbed through pass for me as well, seems like it's been broken for years. The player making the run always checks his run, drives me nuts.
 
I hate everything about the business model, the free to play, the card collection, the gambling.Ditched efootball and played PES2017 for years, thought id try efootball over the past few weeks, and its growing on me loads, the game on the pitch is fantastic IMO, I just play single player league mode and finished 3rd in the league on top player, the difficulty is spot on and each game feels different.Im just frustrated at the complete lack of single player options, to think the game this could be, as a paid for, full content game.
 
As much as I like the gameplay, I just can't waste hard drive space waiting for Konami to add meaningful content to the game.

If the recent surveys don't show that, then I don't know what will.
 
Marlon Anthony said:
I gotta say, this post does come off as condescending...

You'll find a lot of people on Evo-Web are probably over 30 like yourself and a lot of us have grown up with all the classics, it shouldn't invalidate people's enjoyment of eFootball. Yes, the online card collecting priority of the devs is disappointing but what's new these days, almost all companies are at it and it's not going to change.

There's some very good elements of eFootball's gameplay and that's what makes it so frustrating to most of us on this forum that the game has potential but takes a back seat to the quick turnover of it's card mode. Also, it's probably true that young players play this and this philosophy of games is their reference point, it would be normal to them probably how we had an expectation for a certain standard of content in our games when we were young compared to the generation before ours who were probably blown away just to have 3D graphics in a game no matter how primitive the gameplay itself was.
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I agree with @vegasheat on this, even though the statement was a bit blunt. Let me emphasize ..

We all know what those slobs up top are up to, (well probably not ALL of it, since they are all living in a closet) you provided a perfect example with the card lottery thing.
You say that won't change. Now if I thought "yeah he is right, they have their teeth stuck too deep, it won't change", and then vegasheat thought the same.. & so on...
Yes, then nothing will change.

But there were alot of cool people in these forums who wrote here about the classics. They wrote about WE2002 when I was still playing FIFA 98-99, which I thought was the BEST evaaarr!
and then I played WE2002 & I never touched FIFA again.
They wrote of WE6:FE or a rare Korean version of PES, WE9LE! Which imho is The King! I read about it all here.

My point is, if there are no people sharing the past, or more importantly, learning from it, then yes PES 2021 or FIFA 16 maybe will be what the new generation will know.
They won't ever know that those older games recreate ball physics MUCH more true to life than even PES 2021. (IMHO don't come at me 😆 )

No one cares that anybody is enjoying eFootball, or EAFC. But we shouldn't be so complacent about it all. We shouldn't just let them be the bar-standard for Football games.
Gotta let em know, like our bro's before us let us know.

And for those corpo's not changing? The bigger they are, the harder they fall my friend. The shit is gonna hit the fan sooner or later.
 
Joga said:
I agree with @vegasheat on this, even though the statement was a bit blunt. Let me emphasize ..

We all know what those slobs up top are up to, (well probably not ALL of it, since they are all living in a closet) you provided a perfect example with the card lottery thing.
You say that won't change. Now if I thought "yeah he is right, they have their teeth stuck too deep, it won't change", and then vegasheat thought the same.. & so on...
Yes, then nothing will change.

But there were alot of cool people in these forums who wrote here about the classics. They wrote about WE2002 when I was still playing FIFA 98-99, which I thought was the BEST evaaarr!
and then I played WE2002 & I never touched FIFA again.
They wrote of WE6:FE or a rare Korean version of PES, WE9LE! Which imho is The King! I read about it all here.

My point is, if there are no people sharing the past, or more importantly, learning from it, then yes PES 2021 or FIFA 16 maybe will be what the new generation will know.
They won't ever know that those older games recreate ball physics MUCH more true to life than even PES 2021. (IMHO don't come at me 😆 )

No one cares that anybody is enjoying eFootball, or EAFC. But we shouldn't be so complacent about it all. We shouldn't just let them be the bar-standard for Football games.
Gotta let em know, like our bro's before us let us know.

And for those corpo's not changing? The bigger they are, the harder they fall my friend. The shit is gonna hit the fan sooner or later.
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The thing is...is there a single person on this forum who is enjoying efootball (I find it still to be a little soulless and empty) that hasnt played all the classics?

It's a strange assumption that any of them require education on the past. They clearly already know and have played the old games, so it's a false argument, isnt it?
 
vegasheat said:
I like that answer. I play FL25 and PES 6 Firebird Patch Season 22-23....highly recommend this patch. I find FL25 entertaining and it trully Looks like a real football match on the screen. What happened to entire gaming industry is they all left the arcade-sim style of gameplay and introduced these high animations, graphics, presentation etc...so it mimmicks real football but it will never feel like a real football that older PES titles provide. I score a goal in FL25 and it feels.and looks great but when I score in PES 6...screamers from 25-30 meters it just gives me heart palpitations lol
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Try Winning Eleven 10 liveware Evolution. It's a more refined Pes6, with a better defensive a.i,shooting and dribbling.
It's my favorite football game .
 
FShas said:
The thing is...is there a single person on this forum who is enjoying efootball (I find it still to be a little soulless and empty) that hasnt played all the classics?

It's a strange assumption that any of them require education on the past. They clearly already know and have played the old games, so it's a false argument, isnt it?
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Nah I'm referring to the new gens. The younger generation that those corpo's are actively trying to get addicted to gambling & buying bullshit DLC's.
There may be alot of new people that just found out about evoweb. I think maybe you are looking for a false argument?

Yes we always see the same names & recognize one another, but maybe there are people who don't post?

There was a mention earlier that people are afraid to post their thoughts if "efootball bad" , but I think the opposite might be happening also.
Alot of people frustrated about the game may not voice their opinion in fear of getting shut down.
 
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