eFootball (All Platforms)

I've now played manual passing for about 1.5 months and the game is the most realistic football simulation with it. All problems are instantly gone.
Ping pong passing? Takes a lot of skill. Pass speed is actually important. Dribbling and build up is a lot more important as well. Spamming through balls is impossible. Lofted through passes are actually working. Passes that aren't even possible but you see them in every real life match are suddenly normal. Passes are never glitching through opponents.

What most players don't know: "Manual" passing is NOT manual.

The standard pass becomes assisted pass: It takes into account passing attribute and curl attribute of your player completely. Having players with 99 passing and having a player with 80 passing (same for curl) makes a huge difference. When you aim at open space, the pass and curl attribute decide how well the pass will then bend to the player nearby avoiding opponents.

The through ball pass becomes true manual pass: On the other hand the trough ball pass is truly manual and will do exactly as you put the power and direction. I only ever use it 1% of the match. You can do all types of passes with the standard one.

The only thing missing for the true simulation feel for me is advanced shooting from PES because manual shooting you can't do finesse shots. Advanced shooting was the best with perfect control of power and aiming.
 
Same here, I use manual passing too and it’s a complete game changer, my only problem is with manual passing is the receiving player sometimes sticks his foot out backwards knocking the ball away from himself and the chance is gone
 
@Pesmad and @Mazen2020
The same for me.
Fuma control only, always and everywhere. All another modes is just arcade.
Guys, if you want to play the match or couple by fuma at leasure, please let me know in pm.
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Despite the lack of offline modes (ok, no bloody offline modes except exhibition match) this game definitely has some potential. I'd play it if it had a Master League or just regular tournament option. I just can't play online with this dumb card crap. At least we have a decent(ish) engine to build on now which we were severely lacking for the first two years.
 
TheWolf said:
Despite the lack of offline modes (ok, no bloody offline modes except exhibition match) this game definitely has some potential. I'd play it if it had a Master League or just regular tournament option. I just can't play online with this dumb card crap. At least we have a decent(ish) engine to build on now which we were severely lacking for the first two years.
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I agree with you, I still dabble now again, however I’d recommend the myleague mode if you want offline play. I play that now and again, easy to create an authentic team with the amount of free GP you get.

I don’t play too much because I’m finding the AI these days to be really unsatisfying to play. Almost need to play Legend difficulty for a challenge, but unfortunately that’s where you see the AI at its worst.
 
PSMember79 said:
I agree with you, I still dabble now again, however I’d recommend the myleague mode if you want offline play. I play that now and again, easy to create an authentic team with the amount of free GP you get.

I don’t play too much because I’m finding the AI these days to be really unsatisfying to play. Almost need to play Legend difficulty for a challenge, but unfortunately that’s where you see the AI at its worst.
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This is the thing. when I really need a fix I play 1 or 2 games but before I can begin to start enjoying the game again and getting used to mechanics etc, i'm bored. And that's not because of the gameplay, just that I have nothing to play for and the same boring teams.
 
It really is the lack of modes that kills it. I do play My league from time to time but no transfers and basically having no real football world to play in kills it.

It does seem that for Career Mode experiences if you want to play the team yourself there is only one option.

UFL and Goals will just copy Ultimate Team and seeing 2ks recent output I don't put much faith in them: NBA games have glaring gameplay problems they ignore while monetization is getting crazier and crazier, Top Spin being a copy and paste from an old game with a shallow Always Online Career mode that in the beginning also tried to push monetization and seeing what they did with having the NFL license again and just doing a bad mobile game, yeah not much faith in them.

I do like efootballs gameplay and have engaging matches but it is just so shallow and it is weird because there is so much potential if they wanted to bring in a Master League.
 
Mazen2020 said:
I've now played manual passing for about 1.5 months and the game is the most realistic football simulation with it. All problems are instantly gone.
Ping pong passing? Takes a lot of skill. Pass speed is actually important. Dribbling and build up is a lot more important as well. Spamming through balls is impossible. Lofted through passes are actually working. Passes that aren't even possible but you see them in every real life match are suddenly normal. Passes are never glitching through opponents.

What most players don't know: "Manual" passing is NOT manual.

The standard pass becomes assisted pass: It takes into account passing attribute and curl attribute of your player completely. Having players with 99 passing and having a player with 80 passing (same for curl) makes a huge difference. When you aim at open space, the pass and curl attribute decide how well the pass will then bend to the player nearby avoiding opponents.

The through ball pass becomes true manual pass: On the other hand the trough ball pass is truly manual and will do exactly as you put the power and direction. I only ever use it 1% of the match. You can do all types of passes with the standard one.

The only thing missing for the true simulation feel for me is advanced shooting from PES because manual shooting you can't do finesse shots. Advanced shooting was the best with perfect control of power and aiming.
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I see FUMA has finally landed in the German 5th Division then. Have to laugh a bit at this explainer (from someone playing for 6 weeks) in a thread where many participants have been playing manual for years and years, well before the demo-like experience of eFootball came to be 😂

Incidentally, that's always a debated topic (the extent to which attributes are taken into account). I wouldn't confidently pronounce on that ("takes into account...completely") lol. But it's for this reason that many FUMA purists only use Triangle to play (vs., e.g., your 1%).
 
I had my annual check of football games. Or should I say - game. Coz IMHO there is only one game currently on the market that is at least trying to recreate football.
And as sad and pathetic as it sounds - it's free2play, live service €Football..

I'm playing this game in a specific way - I don't buy any players, I play with the default team and if I ever buy anybody - they won't be over 75OVR white ball or however the fuck they are called there. So I play with Defaults and on FUMA. And my team is called FUMA D-Faults FC.

So I came back and was surprised to hear same songs I heard few years back when it was released. Thought live service games like this will have some seasons and different colour pattern and music and stuff..
Anyhoo - not to worry - I decided to check Master League. They surely must have released it by now. Haha! Yeah right.

Either my memory is faulty, or they added a league against AI where you can play full season and they added all the difficulties and time settings to the matches against AI, which is nice. Almost felt loved there for a second.

I suppose the good thing is that the game itself hasn't changed. It's still a solid football game with a nice pace and good feel on the ball. I was afraid that at this stage I will see jetpacks and glowing power shoes. But it flows nicely.
Matchmaking was fairly fast, there was no lags, matches were smooth and I won 3 out of 3 matches on manual with my Kirks and Hickeys against Haalands and Mbappes.
What's not to love?
 
GroveStreet said:
How is that a recreation of football if you with you no name 3tier squad can beat a world's all-star team?
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I speak from my experience: most of the players don't care to play football, even not to defend. They just scatter through balls waiting for one to succed; or, worst, for a corner kick to be given and then play "the trick" and score.
 
GroveStreet said:
How is that a recreation of football if you with you no name 3tier squad can beat a world's all-star team?
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Don't know if you realise, but I'm not playing against worlds all-star team.. it's actually some bloke behind a controller that controls all the players.. and some of them can be really shite if you just play football yourself.
 
Emroth said:
Don't know if you realise, but I'm not playing against worlds all-star team.. it's actually some bloke behind a controller that controls all the players.. and some of them can be really shite if you just play football yourself.
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I don't know if you realize it, but he is controlling only one of those players...
I played PES 2021 online, with team that consisted of players from nation team that I am from and which where one of the worst in the game, so I know that you can beat team of Ronaldo and Messi with dirt like that, but I never dared to call it a recreation of football...
 
GroveStreet said:
I don't know if you realize it, but he is controlling only one of those players...
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Specifically - the one on the ball. So if he doesn't know what to do with the ball - no amount of great players will help him.

I'm not saying eFootball is the best recreation of football ever made. It's far from it. But it's the best of what we have in 2024. That's why I said in my first post that it's sad and pathetic that this is the state of things
 
GroveStreet said:
I don't know if you realize it, but he is controlling only one of those players...
I played PES 2021 online, with team that consisted of players from nation team that I am from and which where one of the worst in the game, so I know that you can beat team of Ronaldo and Messi with dirt like that, but I never dared to call it a recreation of football...
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Precisely!

My bro takes Brazil vs the lowest ranked team he can find on every computer game we’ve ever had and invariably loses 😂

What’s more he played, and still does despite his age, the real thing and, knows much more about real football than I’ll ever know…. But he canny beat me in 30+ years of trying.

So having a great team on paper isn’t going to help if you can’t control the one player you need to when you have the ball.
 
dinono10 said:
Can you change time and levels of difficulty for friendly games yet?
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Nope.

The million dollor question for eFootball 2025 is will we ever be able to change the time and diffcaulty in even friendly games because bar the window lickers even people happy with the game are bore to death with the lack of any content bar the same old events.

UFL maybe a newcomer with many issues but just the customization alone will take a lot of players over from this willing to give this new fresh game a chance.
 
klashman69 said:
Nope.

The million dollor question for eFootball 2025 is will we ever be able to change the time and diffcaulty in even friendly games because bar the window lickers even people happy with the game are bore to death with the lack of any content bar the same old events.

UFL maybe a newcomer with many issues but just the customization alone will take a lot of players over from this willing to give this new fresh game a chance.
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Thank you mate. Every now and then I download it to check. Gameplay wise I enjoy it but like many get bored quickly.
 
klashman69 said:
Nope.

The million dollor question for eFootball 2025 is will we ever be able to change the time and diffcaulty in even friendly games because bar the window lickers even people happy with the game are bore to death with the lack of any content bar the same old events.

UFL maybe a newcomer with many issues but just the customization alone will take a lot of players over from this willing to give this new fresh game a chance.
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It's actually incredible they don't add offline league and edit. Even without ML. It can't be difficult with the existing experience and content they have to add it. In the most basic form it would make this game infinitely more playable.
 
Bravez said:
It's actually incredible they don't add offline league and edit. Even without ML. It can't be difficult with the existing experience and content they have to add it. In the most basic form it would make this game infinitely more playable.
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Efootball is just Pes Lite they won't release an offline mode because there's no money to be made. I wouldn't be surprised if my league was their new version of master league and that's basically all we will get.
 
Kwiz said:
Efootball is just Pes Lite they won't release an offline mode because there's no money to be made. I wouldn't be surprised if my league was their new version of master league and that's basically all we will get.
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I can't accept this. There's no money to be lost either, there is only benefit to doing it. From a development perspective, how long would it take given the already have the foundation of it from previous games? 2-3 sprints? The only feedback would be positive, anyone who doesn't want it won't be bothered and if they did it properly they could charge £10 a year for it or something.

I'm not saying you're wrong btw, I'm just saying it's completely moronic.
 
Bravez said:
I can't accept this. There's no money to be lost either, there is only benefit to doing it. From a development perspective, how long would it take given the already have the foundation of it from previous games? 2-3 sprints? The only feedback would be positive, anyone who doesn't want it won't be bothered and if they did it properly they could charge £10 a year for it or something.

I'm not saying you're wrong btw, I'm just saying it's completely moronic.
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I mean Konami have proven to be morons for a long time just look at their weird feud with Kojima and them cancelling Silent Hills despite the popularity of the demo. The sad truth is that micro transactions ruined sports games why offer you an offline mode for 10 pounds when there's some kid with his mom's credit card spending hundreds every Friday to get shiny cards. These companies don't really care about feedback as long as the money keeps rolling in.
 
Bravez said:
The only feedback would be positive, anyone who doesn't want it won't be bothered and if they did it properly they could charge £10 a year for it or something
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They would need licenses and they don't seem to be bothered anymore. If there is no Master League by now - I would bet money that there won't be any in the future. At this stage it's too late.
Initial uproar ended, most people moved on and offline fans who stuck with it are just playing few matches from time to time and that's it.
Konami doesn't want eFootball to be anything else than it is - free2play flashy casino. They are successfully milking that cow via mobile version.
And that's all they want. Minimum effort and some profit. I honestly can't see it ever changing coz this game is more or less self maintaining machine.
You add Master League and you need to have a team who will maintain it. Patch it, update it and so on. Maybe they had plans to release Master League at the start, but they probably had few meetings, weighed out all the pros and cons and said fuck that.
 
played a couple of matches in football life (PES2021 mod) ohh lord is efootball behind this...

It's shocking how good PES2021 and the ball physics were. efootball feels like a scripted, automated mess on rails without deep gameplay.

PES2021 had his flaws but it feels sooo much more like football than efooball does since day 1, have no hope for V4.0 :II
 
There have been many cases where former employees, after leaving the company, decided to create something new on their own. Unfortunately, this is unlikely to happen in this case, employees do not have to leave the company, and KONAMI is certainly able to offer them very good wages and has no interest in firing them.
 
Emroth said:
They would need licenses and they don't seem to be bothered anymore. If there is no Master League by now - I would bet money that there won't be any in the future. At this stage it's too late.
Initial uproar ended, most people moved on and offline fans who stuck with it are just playing few matches from time to time and that's it.
Konami doesn't want eFootball to be anything else than it is - free2play flashy casino. They are successfully milking that cow via mobile version.
And that's all they want. Minimum effort and some profit. I honestly can't see it ever changing coz this game is more or less self maintaining machine.
You add Master League and you need to have a team who will maintain it. Patch it, update it and so on. Maybe they had plans to release Master League at the start, but they probably had few meetings, weighed out all the pros and cons and said fuck that.
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Not if they had the most basic of edit mode. I'm talking kit colours and names. If they can reuse some old templates, great. But all the player names are in the game if you play my league.

To be clear i'm not even talking ML, that does take resource and building that badly would be detrimental. An offline league is a no brainer and a win win.
 
It's crazy to think that there is only one football game left with real offline modes.

Will be interesting to see if UFL which is a very similar concept will take a share from Konami.

And since some were also still on the 2K Fifa train: https://www.ign.com/articles/take-two-boss-2k-fifa-games-ea-sports-fc-25

Basically 2k admitting that without licenses making a game is hard and I think that is part of the reality of the market: even if you make a game with the Fifpro license which covers a lot of the team compositions (see Konamis English League in the past) the major base of players who buy football games want the full experience of Premier League, La Liga and so on and don't want to temper with downloads, mods etc.

And thinking of 2K and Take two since they have shares and investors behind them: doing what Konami did with PES and achieving these sales would not be enough for Take Two and be seen as failing.

My hope is that UFL (even though I think it's bad) gets Konami to do more.
 
Jay-Jay 10 said:
Basically 2k admitting that without licenses making a game is hard and I think that is part of the reality of the market: even if you make a game with the Fifpro license which covers a lot of the team compositions (see Konamis English League in the past) the major base of players who buy football games want the full experience of Premier League, La Liga and so on and don't want to temper with downloads
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They are assuming that this is what people want, because there is nothing else editable on the market since PES died.
And the companies assume that PES died coz it could not keep up the license war with EA, which is bollox.

PES died coz they were greedy and lazy and wanted to appeal to mobile market.

Instead of running away from edit mode - company like 2K should expand on it.
Even if they released only FIFA world cup game with just international teams and made a Creation Tool, where users could build stadiums from building blocks, create leagues, teams, kits, scoreboards, ads, everything... And then they could upload it and share with other people - before you know you would have a complete game with all the leagues.

And before someone says copyright issue - you can't copyright blocks, colours, letters, shapes, building blocks.

They would just have to make sure gameplay is spot on and Creation Center has all the tools. And people would look after the rest. Like in that Tennis Game, where you can share all your creations and people are adding competitions, courts, players.
 
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