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Pyro said:
S1 S2 makes me think its for Dream Team instead and wording ML is just to confuse.
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Maybe after S2 the it will say "INSERT COIN TO CONTINUE"...


OR TO make it more modern, visit playstore to expand your experience woth another 2-seasons package DLC, or buy a battle pass to play as more seasons as you want, for a year..

Finally we all know by inside info, what Kimura said in a recent interview: "Cmon people, who teh hel plays more than 2 seasons in ML, it gets boring....And those gamebreaking regens..Bring me ma MyDreamTeamClub fix".....:BOP:

( Disclaimer: it's a joke :D )
 
Jupa sent this to me. Looks like there's nothing they can do to fix the void cheat on PC with pvp connections, but they seem to have fixed the 3-0 hack.
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gabe.paul.logan said:
First online match-> quitter cheater opponent.

:LMAO:
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I will tell you some friendly story, as i see you are a freshman in online, and especially on PC platform.

The lag/void cheat is the biggest , No1 plague of online PES, especially in PC platform. Started as a very rare occasion since PES 5, by oral tradition, since PES 2009 by the first official recordings , it became a little bit more prominent but still in the shadows.

And since PES 2011 that people started playing massively Master League Online, it developed from urban legend to status quo.

So excluding the early years, it does exist for 12 years now, sui generis .

In early 2011 and 2012, despite they (KoNAMi) never officially accepted that it exists, they at least had some mood to try to fix it, with the infamous LAG-Buster in the netcode, only to backfire and make Lag Cheaters life easier.

From the point that in needed a lot cheating effort to VOID a match, and in danger of getting disconnected instead of void, and loose the match 3-0, we went to the point that every random child, just ALT+TAbs, opens a YouTube video in 4K, and the match is simply nullified as it never happened.

So after this early failure, they went to the opposite road, why to deal with a problem when you can just pretend it does exist and blame bad people and bad connections, rigs...

They did again in 2015 some halfarsed solutions, like there were some specific topics in some PES related forum communities, in collaboration with KONAMI (somehow), some dedicated thread, where you could report people with evidence, but.... First of all it failed per se, ss it ended in a bad witch hunt, the connections of the forums with PES were ,at least questionable and on top of that, the 4 forums that were "picked" , were WENB, PESfan and 2 others that I can't recall now, that are also diseased , by the time we speak.

So, in short terms, they don't want to put some effort to deal with lag cheating, or they cannot or they don't want to invest to be competitive, cause with cheaters , they are always one step ahead.

And even if this rumor is true that the DDOS attack, (lagger cuts the match and you loose 3-0 ) was! finally fixed , FIRST it took them 3, years to deal with it, and Secondary but most important , this cheat hits a soft spot for KONAMI, cause except for cheating anhuman player, you are also "stealing" KoNAMi by some means, cause you acquire GP or Coins or whatever is the in game currency, which is a zero tolerance policy, when you take advantage by third party programs, methods, that make you In Game currency.

It was the same reason that they dealt with the hacktool for SIM matches, 2 years ago, cause people were gaining the GP after all.

But the traditional lag cheat, since it is a pure VOID cheat, and the match never happened, it is only stealing your time, effort and ranking , but nothing from KONAMI, so they won't give a damn to fix it.

Lastly, and always speaking mostly of PC platform, I would advise you to get used to it, as soon as possible, cause it existed since always, and it will stay forever.

TL;DR: Lag cheat is part of PES online DNA, get used to it, cause , they can't, they don't want, and the don't give a damn to fix it.
 
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elloco said:
can someone explain to me why the hair and shadows are still grainy?? the game is still not optimized for PC ?

sometimes the players look photorealistic and sometimes it's ugly... its an NVIDIA setting ??
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Wait have you installed it ? Does it still run like crap or no ?
 
slamsoze said:
But the traditional lag cheat, since it is a pure VOID cheat, and the match never happened, it is only stealing your time, effort and ranking , but nothing from KONAMI, so they won't give a damn to fix it.
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I mean, it's ruining the online experience, and for a game that relies on a good online experience to make money, they need to choose between allowing PvP or not having voids. I think there should be an option when matchmaking to filter out PvP completely. It's locations like the middle east that don't have servers that thrive on void cheats.
 
Hayes said:
Wait have you installed it ? Does it still run like crap or no ?
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Yeah I've never uninstalled it. Game runs smoothly with 60hz and gsync. The fps are not the problem, but the grainy shadows and hair looks ugly.

Had a couple of matches this evening, not a Single cheater and it's a step in the right direction. Had some intense and fun games.

Small steps but good ones.

Konami now must deliver co-op and friendly lobby's, if they don't. Not much to do...
 
elloco said:
Yeah I've never uninstalled it. Game runs smoothly with 60hz and gsync. The fps are not the problem, but the grainy shadows and hair looks ugly.

Had a couple of matches this evening, not a Single cheater and it's a step in the right direction. Had some intense and fun games.

Small steps but good ones.

Konami now must deliver co-op and friendly lobby's, if they don't. Not much to do...
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Is your spec High-End pc ?

Also is the settings.exe still locked ? Like full resolution, etc ?
 
The_Knight said:
I mean, it's ruining the online experience, and for a game that relies on a good online experience to make money, they need to choose between allowing PvP or not having voids. I think there should be an option when matchmaking to filter out PvP completely. It's locations like the middle east that don't have servers that thrive on void cheats.
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It was the very first reason that i quited , and lots of people that were playing MLO back then .

And the very same words you post now, we had posted it hundreds/thousand of times 12 years ago, with zero outcome. (Not in this forum)

It is unacceptable, that's what most people say, to pretend you have a competitive online product, with ranking ladder, and have your top 100 players, are 50% cheaters.

And that was a one of many reasons, that most "competitive" players, jumped from PC to PS3 back then. Cause there SONY seems to be more effective somehow.

Or maybe it's not just Sony, it's that people won't risk their 50bucks PS+ subscription to do mumbo jumbo tricks, while in PC, the usual policy with cheaters was, after dozens of recorded evidence, reset their ranking to 400/500 for 3 times, then ban them, and then they create a new account, and back to cheating again.

Also we created a type of committee, in a forum back then, and we gave feedback with solutions , we proposed the WOW system, KONAMI to have company insiders or even amateur players that would act as GAMeMasters, spectate matches, by the same menu we can spectate rooms now, and when they spot suspicious net traffic in a match, by the lag signal that appears too right with the signal sign, jump inside match, and spectate live whats happens. Usually it obvious, when you score in 89' after a lag free match, and suddenly after replay, the wheel starts spinning, and in kickoff you get the pop up for unforseen circumstances, 9/10 times leniently, you can assume who cut the match.

Then we proposed the LOL system, the Tribunal.Online amateur players, with some type of high reputation, to have access to a special forum-like place, where they can access suspicious matches, read the word.txt which is the full log of the match, whatever happened in Chat pre-mid-post match, what happened in the match, and how the match ended, result, win, loss, voided, etc .. and everyone vote what to happen, punish or not, after a % percentage of voted, the case was closed, and the accused punished or not.

Finally we proposed dedicated servers. Obvious but expensive. Both players log in the match, whoever disconnected, has 1 minute to log in back, if not, he looses by default .

And tons of other solutions, that i can't recall now, and that should be KoNAMi responsibility to find out, not by us, the average PES players.

Well the outcome is known, nothing was listened by official ears from the officials, even during the social media reign era, after 2014, with Twitter questions in Gamescoms, E3 events etc, the questions about lag cheating, were always strategically ignored, and a lot of old fellows from the old communities, that made efforts, or recommendations about lag cheating, were systematically blocked by PES official social media, for "spamming" questions/requests (about lag cheat).

Only the Witch hunt solution was picked, by the feedback, which obviously didn't work, and created more toxic and unjustified attacks/digs, than expose cheaters.

And in the rare moments they have timidly mentioned lag cheating,it comes always with an attack to online players, with some typo excuses like, you are playing it wrong, you don't use ethernet cable but WiFi, watch out your mommy was downloading Torrents the time you were playing online, check your internet/connection, contact your provider, people are bad, those cheating staff happens in every ranked online game, etc, etc

Every possible liability was/is blamed, except for the game designer's responsibility...
 
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I had to abandon two straight matches due to severe input lag. I wasn't experiencing this a few hours when a had a couple of matches in dream team that were quite good. The first match I abandoned, I thought it was some issue with my controller, but that wasn't the case. I couldn't do jack shit on the pitch while my opponent was zipping passes here and there. The same thing happened in the second match. So I'm starting to think there is something more mischievous going on.
 
elloco said:
Yeah it's high end at least more as enough for eFo... 12600k 32GB DDR5 and 980Ti

Settings still locked... In game gfx settings all on max
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Well f##k 😂, looks like it will run like crap for my PC then.

Also Why tf they still locking the settings ?
 
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slamsoze said:
I will tell you some friendly story, as i see you are a freshman in online, and especially on PC platform.

The lag/void cheat is the biggest , No1 plague of online PES, especially in PC platform. Started as a very rare occasion since PES 5, by oral tradition, since PES 2009 by the first official recordings , it became a little bit more prominent but still in the shadows.

And since PES 2011 that people started playing massively Master League Online, it developed from urban legend to status quo.

So excluding the early years, it does exist for 12 years now, sui generis .

In early 2011 and 2012, despite they (KoNAMi) never officially accepted that it exists, they at least had some mood to try to fix it, with the infamous LAG-Buster in the netcode, only to backfire and make Lag Cheaters life easier.

From the point that in needed a lot cheating effort to VOID a match, and in danger of getting disconnected instead of void, and loose the match 3-0, we went to the point that every random child, just ALT+TAbs, opens a YouTube video in 4K, and the match is simply nullified as it never happened.

So after this early failure, they went to the opposite road, why to deal with a problem when you can just pretend it does exist and blame bad people and bad connections, rigs...

They did again in 2015 some halfarsed solutions, like there were some specific topics in some PES related forum communities, in collaboration with KONAMI (somehow), some dedicated thread, where you could report people with evidence, but.... First of all it failed per se, ss it ended in a bad witch hunt, the connections of the forums with PES were ,at least questionable and on top of that, the 4 forums that were "picked" , were WENB, PESfan and 2 others that I can't recall now, that are also diseased , by the time we speak.

So, in short terms, they don't want to put some effort to deal with lag cheating, or they cannot or they don't want to invest to be competitive, cause with cheaters , they are always one step ahead.

And even if this rumor is true that the DDOS attack, (lagger cuts the match and you loose 3-0 ) was! finally fixed , FIRST it took them 3, years to deal with it, and Secondary but most important , this cheat hits a soft spot for KONAMI, cause except for cheating anhuman player, you are also "stealing" KoNAMi by some means, cause you acquire GP or Coins or whatever is the in game currency, which is a zero tolerance policy, when you take advantage by third party programs, methods, that make you In Game currency.

It was the same reason that they dealt with the hacktool for SIM matches, 2 years ago, cause people were gaining the GP after all.

But the traditional lag cheat, since it is a pure VOID cheat, and the match never happened, it is only stealing your time, effort and ranking , but nothing from KONAMI, so they won't give a damn to fix it.

Lastly, and always speaking mostly of PC platform, I would advise you to get used to it, as soon as possible, cause it existed since always, and it will stay forever.

TL;DR: Lag cheat is part of PES online DNA, get used to it, cause , they can't, they don't want, and the don't give a damn to fix it.
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Im sorry really but im not gonna read all this :D
 
The_Knight said:
That's gonna need a lot of testing to know if it's just talk or something real...

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I play only offline. Ball protection is worse than before. Although they said they improved it. When trying to make the last pass at superstar level (the other levels are locked apart for useless regular and another) cpu will block it with a supernatural reaction. Frustrating. Other then that. They actually improved something. Agile players are slightly more efficient. Receiving ball a little more reactive. So you can create something more even playing with manual passing. Passing is slightly faster. Midfield seem to me much better than previous pes games. More density. Overall not bad. Would be good if they addressed the cpu getting always superhuman when defending and sometimes when attacking. The usual. Referee often doesn't whistle fouls. Game reminds me of the good build up of pes 2014 (but without the other problems) and the flexibility of pes 2015 (but without the terribly dumb and empty midfield and unfortunately without the great shooting mechanics). It has potential. But it has those couple of big issues with cpu level. And playing friendly I am sure Is less frustrating then what would be cpu in tournaments cups ml etc
 
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slamsoze said:
I will tell you some friendly story, as i see you are a freshman in online, and especially on PC platform.

The lag/void cheat is the biggest , No1 plague of online PES, especially in PC platform. Started as a very rare occasion since PES 5, by oral tradition, since PES 2009 by the first official recordings , it became a little bit more prominent but still in the shadows.

And since PES 2011 that people started playing massively Master League Online, it developed from urban legend to status quo.

So excluding the early years, it does exist for 12 years now, sui generis .

In early 2011 and 2012, despite they (KoNAMi) never officially accepted that it exists, they at least had some mood to try to fix it, with the infamous LAG-Buster in the netcode, only to backfire and make Lag Cheaters life easier.

From the point that in needed a lot cheating effort to VOID a match, and in danger of getting disconnected instead of void, and loose the match 3-0, we went to the point that every random child, just ALT+TAbs, opens a YouTube video in 4K, and the match is simply nullified as it never happened.

So after this early failure, they went to the opposite road, why to deal with a problem when you can just pretend it does exist and blame bad people and bad connections, rigs...

They did again in 2015 some halfarsed solutions, like there were some specific topics in some PES related forum communities, in collaboration with KONAMI (somehow), some dedicated thread, where you could report people with evidence, but.... First of all it failed per se, ss it ended in a bad witch hunt, the connections of the forums with PES were ,at least questionable and on top of that, the 4 forums that were "picked" , were WENB, PESfan and 2 others that I can't recall now, that are also diseased , by the time we speak.

So, in short terms, they don't want to put some effort to deal with lag cheating, or they cannot or they don't want to invest to be competitive, cause with cheaters , they are always one step ahead.

And even if this rumor is true that the DDOS attack, (lagger cuts the match and you loose 3-0 ) was! finally fixed , FIRST it took them 3, years to deal with it, and Secondary but most important , this cheat hits a soft spot for KONAMI, cause except for cheating anhuman player, you are also "stealing" KoNAMi by some means, cause you acquire GP or Coins or whatever is the in game currency, which is a zero tolerance policy, when you take advantage by third party programs, methods, that make you In Game currency.

It was the same reason that they dealt with the hacktool for SIM matches, 2 years ago, cause people were gaining the GP after all.

But the traditional lag cheat, since it is a pure VOID cheat, and the match never happened, it is only stealing your time, effort and ranking , but nothing from KONAMI, so they won't give a damn to fix it.

Lastly, and always speaking mostly of PC platform, I would advise you to get used to it, as soon as possible, cause it existed since always, and it will stay forever.

TL;DR: Lag cheat is part of PES online DNA, get used to it, cause , they can't, they don't want, and the don't give a damn to fix it.
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bromi said:
Ball protection is worse than before. Although they said they improved it. When trying to make the last pass at superstar level (the other levels are locked apart for useless regular and another) cpu will block it with a supernatural reaction. Frustrating. Other then that. They actually improved something. Agile players are slightly more efficient. Receiving ball a little more reactive. So you can create something more even playing with manual passing. Passing is slightly faster. Midfield seem to me much better than previous pes games. More density. Overall not bad. Would be good if they addressed the cpu getting always superhuman when defending and sometimes when attacking. The usual. Referee often doesn't whistle fouls
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Superstar (for offline vs CPU) was/is always cancer in PES/eFoorball. It just makes you play sweaty and ignore playing real football style (how I personally like to play it). Every PES I played ever I use professional and/or Top Player. I wish some genius can unlock that. Most of what you mentioned is blamed on difficulty level.
 
I had one match. graphics wise the cutscenes and replays are now all better due to more fps. Maybe even 60. that i noticed instantly.
game felt a bit slower?! AI (Bologna) were super aggressive at the beginning. Pass power bar seemed to be a bit tamed now, not as fast loading. Faster loading times between those stupid scenes before a match.
 
mahanddeem said:
Superstar was/is always cancer in PES/eFoorball. It just makes you play sweaty and ignore playing real football style (how I personally like to play it). Every PES I played ever I use professional and/or Top Player. I wish some genius can unlock that. Most of what you mentioned is blamed on difficulty level.
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At professional and top player in previous pes games, midfield gameplay was absent. Making the game almost unplayable
 
Well, my impressions about this new version are just varied, at first I was susceptible of installing it, but I was thinking: what the heck let's give it a try (and not be hunted by some crazy remorse later that will stay in my head for life).

So I was installing it on my phone when I was in my kitchen doing some pancakes with my wife. Well the installer was running slick, finded it very fast on google play store, then it asked me about some permissions like some gibberish about bank accounts and personal stuff (of course I blindly agreed bla bla bla) then I was directly into some action trying to not roast those pancakes too much and then when all finished I've tried some gameplay while I was eating. I mean, in my humble opinion, yeah, looks like the PC and PS5 versions, swappable & fast on menus, the UI is identical, gameplay is improved, etc. I have some concerns regarding ball friction but in the end not a big deal coz' mostly feels the same like on the other platforms with the unique advantage that's portable. What I can say, very entertaining when cooking and stuff...
 
God dammit, I'm conflicted. On the one hand I can't dignify this company and their sloppy, unethical product but bloody hell, This game is so much more fun and satisfying to play then PES 2021 on the other hand.

I can't play the latter without muttering "oh for fuck sake" every 30 seconds because of all the lethargy and disgusting AI from both team meates and COM... But on eFootball (offline) I never have these frustrations. The dribbling and responsiveness is a delight, the lungey, stridey handicapping of defenders is gone and the animations and weight of it all is fantastic. The control mapping is superior to PES 2021 in every way and even visually, this game is excellent.

It's like a sexy lady without a head. You get your short term pleasure but the long term sophistication and companionship is missing. With no offline modes, no leagues or cups, editing or modding, This game is nothing but a wet hole in a headless hooker. Shove your money in it's bra and have your shallow way with it until the novelty wears off and you've got your hysteria out of your system and then what you really long for is a thoughtful conversation, but you're not gonna get it here.
 
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