eFootball (All Platforms)

Mikhail said:
Let’s be honest, how many of us will be playing this heap of crap even a month after release?

I’ll play it once just for the LOLs but you just know it’s going to be awful.
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Same...

The future is me going between all of the previous iterations switching between each when I notice something that pi**es me off...

It has how my football gaming habit has been since PES 6 which is madness when you think that was 15+ years ago...
 
Taddis said:
Makes me cringe looking at comments of people wanting 2k to make football game.

Fifa is closer to real football than nba 2k to real basketball.
Yes it has some high quality production on graphics and overall presentation. But gameplay is whack with all crazy stuff they implemented last 4-5 years. Also the game isn't so great looking anymore when you see how players ice skate across the floor and animations aren't that smooth as well.
2k14-16 games were really great though , I'd say in line to classic pes games on depth and fun of gameplay. But 2k17 and onwards they changed gameplay philosophy from realistic-sim like to arcadey casual experience.
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Ever heard of sliders?
I'd get as realistic on my 2k21 as on my 2k14 when playing offline
 
If I was to pay for a football game, I'd want THE FULL GAME: game modes, full leagues, an editor.
It must be me not understanding marketing, but then again, why pay for a «new» half-game when you have the older PES to compare (and get) all the missing features?
 
xavi2009 said:
If I was to pay for a football game, I'd want THE FULL GAME: game modes, full leagues, an editor.
It must be me not understanding marketing, but then again, why pay for a «new» half-game when you have the older PES to compare (and get) all the missing features?
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It's a <<free>> half-game mate. and even that makes it not any better
 
Just a question : is "individual players tactics" was on any previous PES?
To me the last PES we could've give arrows was PES 2013. Not even individuals tactics.
Isn't it a new thing? Because if we got teams tactics but not (the new stuff) individuals players consigns or whatever, it's not a drama.

For the rest... Humm. Should have been released the 30 November instead. Like i said they really want to rush with something completely unfinished and they willl show a pretty pale figure even if the game will be updated and become pretty good in the future...
Bad move. Marketing, patience and "sagesse" are really not their thing at all. Fucking idiots, especially the guys who decided to release it that soon.

Kimura probably : i got that man on my target with a Bazooka charged with poo for everytime he will open his mouth.
 
Goldstone said:
You can play offline exhibition matches on release but only with the 9 teams.
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I never play with any of those teams. But looking at Juve roster this year looking like they're fighting for the 5th Serie A position, i will perhaps take them for a try.
 
Jimi_Zuko said:
Wo

Won’t come free probably cost $5 for a kick variety pack and I’m not even joking
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Wait until they decide to bring back PES 2013's magic boots for BAL (if BAL is still a thing).

And they weren't even that bad as an idea (if you think about it also real life brands put an accent on a specific thing when they advertise their boots, like "the lightest boots ever", "the fastest you've ever been", "more power at your feet", "bend it like Roberto Carlos" and something similar).
It was just badly, badly implemented.
 
I’ve not been keeping tabs on the ‘news’ lately but reading through I keep seeing the same phrase used.. so I have to ask..

What on earth is a ‘sharp kick’?

Have I been missing something all these years.. man this explains why I never made it past Sunday league.. if only I’d used sharp kick (is it a Pokémon thing?) I’d have been a professional for sure.

I’ll be sure to have that added to my gravestone when I pass.

“Here rests…..
Sadly missed…
Outlived PES..
Shot in the back by Buford Tannon over a matter of 80 dollars..
Needed more sharp kicks..
Piss here.”
 
RexBanner said:
Yeah FIFA 08 had some PES DNA. It was pretty damn good. A bit of an issue with responsiveness but still, pretty good for a FIFA game.
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Fifa 09 and WC10 were the closest EA ever got to PES levels. Fifa 08 was the turning point though and many of us ditched the dreadful PES 2008 for Fifa. Fifa 22 beta has finally surpassed PES finally on ball physics only took them 28 years :APPLAUD:
 
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I honestly wonder what's the deal with those 9 teams. It's all fantasy football now, real clubs have no business here and look really, really out of place.
Just let us pick Ronaldo, Mbappe and Messi, and face a team that also uses Ronaldo, Mbappe and Messi. That's all we truly wanted.
Thank you, Konami, for making our vision come true!

At least give us the dignity of making modding easy...
 
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Especially WC10. The 09 have it, but no invidiuality and you could've outrun a player too easily.
But WC10 man... It was super fun. To play etc., it's like another type of Fifa, i don't know that game got something in more than the other.
Like if they builded it "relaxed/no pressure" and got fun to create it. And it was pretty balanced and ball physics was pretty PES5ish
 
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vialli82 said:
Especially WC10. The 09 have it, but no invidiuality and you could've outrun a player too easily.
But WC10 man... It was super fun. To play etc., it's like another type of Fifa, i don't know that game got something in more than the other.
Like if they builded it "relaxed/no pressure" and got fun to create it. And it was pretty balanced and ball physics was pretty PES5ish
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I think @Chris Davies said , there was a guy in EA devs teams, with real vision, back at that days about creating something quality and decent for the fans/customers. A vision that is not compatible with our modern days standards. IIRC he was responsible for the EA FIFA resurection after 2007.

Sorry for OT.
 
slamsoze said:
I think @Chris Davies said , there was a guy in EA devs teams, with real vision, back at that days about creating something quality and decent for the fans/customers. A vision that is not compatible with our modern days standards. IIRC he was responsible for the EA FIFA resurection after 2007.

Sorry for OT.
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There's a guy , NellyGotBored on youtube and he does Podcasts. He had a podcast episode with I think one of the developers of AOT and that guy knows the stuff and ins and outs of the Gaming industry, If I remember correctly, the developer said that the reason why EAs games and quality nowadays is so poor is because No actual good developer or experienced one goes there now, EA is only a stepping stone for new/young developers looking to get in so that later they can go on to better and bigger things, That probably explains the stuff about all these bad Fifa games.
 
slamsoze said:
I think @Chris Davies said , there was a guy in EA devs teams, with real vision, back at that days about creating something quality and decent for the fans/customers. A vision that is not compatible with our modern days standards. IIRC he was responsible for the EA FIFA resurection after 2007.

Sorry for OT.
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The only guy i remember was David Rutter. He still on the devs team at the same place i think. Just that he changed his mind for the upcoming versions....

But there was another one behing WC2010 if i remember well, they gived more freedom, bringing something "special" for that version.
PS/ Not sorry for the O.T. at all (me too wants to bring something special, never saw before on the forum)
 
slamsoze said:
I think @Chris Davies said , there was a guy in EA devs teams, with real vision, back at that days about creating something quality and decent for the fans/customers. A vision that is not compatible with our modern days standards. IIRC he was responsible for the EA FIFA resurection after 2007.

Sorry for OT.
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David rutter i think was the guy. He was the one who introduced 360 movement, physics (impact engine was crazy realistic) and animations, everything was there to represent the next gen while pes was still stuck with their old engine 08, 09s and 10s was where fifa left pes in its dust.
 
Chilleverest said:
David rutter i think was the guy. He was the one who introduced 360 movement, physics (impact engine was crazy realistic) and animations, everything was there to represent the next gen while pes was still stuck with their old engine 08, 09s and 10s was where fifa left pes in its dust.
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vialli82 said:
The only guy i remember was David Rutter. He still on the devs team at the same place i think. Just that he changed his mind for the upcoming versions....

But there was another one behing WC2010 if i remember well, they gived more freedom, bringing something "special" for that version.
PS/ Not sorry for the O.T. at all (me too wants to bring something special, never saw before on the forum)
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Maybe was that guy, sorry my brain memory is a peace of crap sometimes. IIRC again that guy was a real admirer of the PES series gameplay until PES 6. I won't say more, cause maybe i recall BS false memories :D :)
 
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Hayes said:
lol, let's be real here. Boycotting efootball will not work. It's like shooting at the sun with water gun.
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It would work if everyone had the balls to do it not just a select few. Dont tell me it wouldn't work when there's vast amounts of evidence and precedent of it working with various amounts of industries and companies.
 
€football 5 preset strategies? Suck this.... ISS Pro had 9 preset strategies!!! :D :P

The game-changer was 1997’s International Superstar Soccer Pro – follow-up to the well-received early PlayStation kickabout, Goal Storm, and namesake of 1994 SNES title International Superstar Soccer. Developed by Konami Tokyo with a new 3D graphics engine, it sought to challenge Fifa by offering an organic, improvisational experience rather than something tightly structured around specific moves and tactics. Where its rival encouraged fast, thrilling goal-fests, ISS slowed things down, rewarding patient approach play and crisp passing, facilitated by a groundbreaking approach to tactical variety. The game included nine in-match strategy options such as zone press and overlap, emphasising the idea of simulation over arcade-style action. Plus its side-on visual presentation looked beautiful. “So smooth you forget this is a video game and actually feel like you’re participating in a real match,” cooed Absolute PlayStation.
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@vialli82
Or guys maybe the EA guy was Gary Paterson? I am searching some info now. Although more PESvsFIFA history article..

source: https://www.theguardian.com/games/2...occer-the-history-of-gamings-greatest-rivalry


Even EA’s employees were wowed by their rivals’ excellence. “PES was a massive influence in the beginning,” says Gary Paterson, who became Fifa lead designer in October 2005. “I don’t think there was another sports game that created such varied, emergent, emotive gameplay back then. I loved it.”

Paterson combined the lessons learned from PES with his own instincts, which had landed him a promotion from Fifa manager. “I was focused on creating logical systems that reflected what I knew of football, and that would generate the range of outcomes necessary for a dynamic experience – where no two games would be the same. We improved the sophistication of the ball physics and rewrote how the goalkeeper saved the ball … I also focused on replacing random elements with probability curves, based on context.”
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JUST to keep it ONTOPIC, compare this guy's (Paterson) words, with Kimura or the EA devs that give interviews and insights in our days.
Me personally i see a guy that is obsessed in a good way with his doings. Kimura and the others are just spamming e-sports, and other 1vs1 bulkrap.
 
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No no no no no… OK , it's just a nightmare from a high fever that I had months ago, because of the Corona Virus, you know how you have fever crazy awful dream that all is mess , things that don't make sense, cringes as eFak!
Yes , yes that is !
Now all makes perfect sense !
Everything is tied up!
I can't wait to wake up sweaty in the REAL World, in the hospital, where PES 2022 is fine, REAL Next Gen, NO mobile BS, Shressi is not Real, Messi will looks fantastic playing for Barca, not like braindead plastic doll playing for PSG for free ??? HAHAHH can you imagine ? Creative Team AHHAHAHA No .. just in wacky fever dream world !
All this is not true and all these comments here and what is happening with Konami will be just one bad dream :)
I will miss you, all you fictional people and events ;)​
 
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funny enough, when i ranted in my post on pes 2021 ML cpu cheating and handicap, no one even responded lol, deep inside they know how the game is real bad in ML....i know this is the wrong thread, but watching now fifa 22 beta gameplay, the ball physics are extremely close to what PES is, so maybe a breath of fresh air at least that one of the games will be a keeper
 
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