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I was wondering the same, really annoying!
EA SPORTS FC 25
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I was wondering the same, really annoying!
Posts like this are tempting me to buy the game...
I cant deny i havent missed it since my trial ended..
Kopite1990
League 2
I’ll be honest mate, I barely touched EAFC 24 and struggled with FIFA 22/23 too. The lack of midfield battles and 1v1 gameplay killed my enjoyment. However EAFC25 definitely feels different and for the first time in a while the positives outweigh the negatives.
There are still issues that rear their head every now and then (issues with jockeying, skating etc.) but for the most part there is a really good game here which means I can overlook them but I appreciate everyone has different experiences.
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As much as I enjoyed the trial, this critique from Operation Sports is really good. Particularly because they illustrate their points with videos, and it does boggle the mind (particularly the defending - 1v1 needs to be damned to hell). It makes some of what @Matt10 was saying easy to see.
Operation Sports review
Example clip of the attacking team all backing away in the most bizarre manner because of "FCIQ":
Example clip of the cursed 1v1 defending:
For as long as the game is designed for eSports at its core, it's not really a football game. Said it a million times, I know, but until sim mode allows the AI to see the opposition players (and not just float back and forth in their rigid positional assignment, aside from the designated 1v1 presser)... Agh. It's such a huge shame.
Operation Sports review
Example clip of the attacking team all backing away in the most bizarre manner because of "FCIQ":
Example clip of the cursed 1v1 defending:
For as long as the game is designed for eSports at its core, it's not really a football game. Said it a million times, I know, but until sim mode allows the AI to see the opposition players (and not just float back and forth in their rigid positional assignment, aside from the designated 1v1 presser)... Agh. It's such a huge shame.
Thank you, appreciate your balanced opinion. I've had exactly the same experience over the last few years. The trial was the first game I've played of fifa, since fifa 16 where it felt like an actual football match.
Ezequiel Vanzin
Conference
- 31 December 2022
If for this reason your problem was fixed with gameplay mods, of course if you are on PC, otherwise wait for some miracle patch!
Good write up mate. What difficulty and time length are you playing?
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Ezequiel Vanzin
Conference
- 31 December 2022
Yes, PC mods solve these problems because in fc 24 it was also solved with mods!
Kopite1990
League 2
Cheers mate - Current set up is 5 min half length (Legendary w/ Sim Mode on).
Also worth mentioning I am still on PS4 for now too.
Hope they don't forget to tone down the XTC pilotfish player movement before going into details. Bringing back the game speed settings would be the bare minimum.
InfaRedd
League 2
Justice & Tame Impala - Neverender is a banger. Best song on the soundtrack!
Break My Love is a close second.
Break My Love is a close second.
Thats a pretty good review . I gave a few games a try tonight and as much as I like sim mode, they really need to figure out the defending. Thank god Ive never seen my attackers back up like they do in that clip or I wouldve just thrown my controller somewhere).
I think sliders unfortunately might be the only option and tradeoff to find middle ground into fixing some of those issues while giving up some of the good qualities of Sim mode.
On another note, the review mentioned graphics. Yes they look good, but when I clicked on the youtube links for the clips, I got recommended some goals from @Marlon Anthony from probably 7 years ago (FIFA17). I really think the pitch/colors looked much better back then (not player models), i might be a minority but I really liked '17 color's palette vs the oversaturated ones now. I even fired up Fifa 22 and felt the colors were much better.
I would love to know this, too. Pisses me off.
Appreciate the OS sports review...BUT, at this point I'm personally just happy to have a newly released football game which I find myself wanting to play. It's got to the point where I don't want to piss on my chips anymore with such an in-depth analysis of things so I'm not going to peek behind the curtain too much.
It's never going to be as intricate as we want it to be, but the sim mode has already seen me put 30 hours into the game, which is about 29 more than FC24!
This year I actually think the pros outweigh the cons, because it's been so so bad recently. If only I could turn off that bloody pitch wear in career mode.
It's never going to be as intricate as we want it to be, but the sim mode has already seen me put 30 hours into the game, which is about 29 more than FC24!
This year I actually think the pros outweigh the cons, because it's been so so bad recently. If only I could turn off that bloody pitch wear in career mode.
Just read the operation sports review. I'm all for that kind of dissection. A sim game with a proper game shape (come home fifa's 08 and 09). However...I just didnt really notice any of those issues during my play through during the trial.
Juve dropped too deep. But Dortmund defended on the half way line and I could hardly breathe.
Also, I thought sim mode was genuinely hard. Playing through the midfield at times was almost impossible.
However...I was enjoying the game. And when you do, you tend to overlook smaller issues that arent on your 'red-line' list for a game.
Juve dropped too deep. But Dortmund defended on the half way line and I could hardly breathe.
Also, I thought sim mode was genuinely hard. Playing through the midfield at times was almost impossible.
However...I was enjoying the game. And when you do, you tend to overlook smaller issues that arent on your 'red-line' list for a game.
Kopite1990
League 2
I completely agree - Everyone has a water line of what they can and can’t live with, others won’t even notice these things. There is no right or wrong answer, personally I am really enjoying the game and hopefully that continues through updates/patches.
Part of me is probably just relieved to have another football game that brings me some enjoyment for an hour or so each night, especially after 4 years of playing PES21.
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Agree - though I think with the issues they mention tweaked, fixed or expanded, we'd all have an even better time, so I'm glad that reviews like that exist.
IMO, critical reviews like OS's (which dissect the issues and, crucially, provide clips to demonstrate) are far more valuable to everyone than the reviews that bash the game without really giving clear reasons as to why (other than "same game as last year", which is such a lazy stereotype, and it makes it clear they just want to appeal to the toxic userbase).
That "red-line list" comment is exactly right IMO - I'm tempted to start a topic called something like "Football Games: what are your three must-haves and your three can't-haves", because it's an interesting line of discussion. I want to love this game, and I want to retrain my brain so I don't see the 1v1 "kick in" every single time it happens, but I just can't. I just hope, one day, we can turn it off - but I don't see why they would bother when it's a core part of the game.
EDIT: I made that thread, click here!
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hatesince97
Premier League
- 21 February 2022
They made an effort this year with sim mode and listened to some of the community's requests. So, if we consider this, maybe in two years we can get an actual separate gameplay for offline players, who knows.
Kopite1990
League 2
Spot on Chris - I really enjoy reading your posts and they echo a lot of my own thoughts in terms of the state of football games at the moment.
FC25 feels like a step in the right direction, a small one potentially but hopefully it is a sign that they are finally ready to tweak things for offline players too 🤞🏼
daikirai
statement™
- 3 November 2003
The "advanced graphics" or whatever they call it in the menu are very annoying. Kits blow around like you're in 90mph winds, laces bounce from the slightest twitch, I keep forgetting to turn it off
DerleiPT
Pes Master
- 29 October 2009
- Chelsea FC
EA Sports FC 25 Live Tuning Update #1 Patch Notes:
Made the following changes:- Reduced ball trajectory height for Lobbed Passes and Crosses performed in Rush matches.
- Reduced accuracy of first time Lobbed Through Passes and Lobbed Through Passes taken at severe angles.
- [PS5/PC/XBSX|S Only] Reduced instances of players accelerating unintentionally quickly when a Sprint is requested.
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Less accuracy, beautiful. This is the only update I've actively WANTED to see applied to offline... I hope it is...
Superb hopefully those air balloon long passes are fixing now.
Totally agree. Reviews like OS, where they actually highlight using footage the problems in the game are something we couldve done with all along.
I remember being so frustrated 10 years ago, when reviews were totally shallow and never analysed the game properly. Even now, sites like gamecentral, who are gold standard in most other genres, too often produce bizarre reviews of football games.
Hatrickhero
Championship
- 8 March 2021
not really, fc24 is not fifa 16 level of ai .... still no midfield battles can be found
daikirai
statement™
- 3 November 2003
This will surely be a monkey's paw situation
Ezequiel Vanzin
Conference
- 31 December 2022
The free mod didn't solve the problem, but if you used and paid for the Anths mod, the midfield problem was well populated and playable for me!
Still really enjoying this with default sim sliders and in a career mode with Deportivo.
Do think the 'No Training' option is bugged though as my players have ZERO sharpness in November. But kinda agree with @Emroth that it is a case of "Whatever, just get on with it"
Again though...
The variety of animations, goals, saves, connections, trajectories, first touches, and all sorts in this game in the final third is to be applauded. I do think that eFootball in it's current guise is way more demanding/intense/smarter, but FC25 blows it out the water, completely, when it comes to what can/should happen in that phase of play. The variety is simply jaw dropping.
Do think the 'No Training' option is bugged though as my players have ZERO sharpness in November. But kinda agree with @Emroth that it is a case of "Whatever, just get on with it"
Again though...
The variety of animations, goals, saves, connections, trajectories, first touches, and all sorts in this game in the final third is to be applauded. I do think that eFootball in it's current guise is way more demanding/intense/smarter, but FC25 blows it out the water, completely, when it comes to what can/should happen in that phase of play. The variety is simply jaw dropping.
This game is not revolutionnary, incredible. But the gameplay is really good and well balanced.
I played with Marseille on career mode and Montpellier didn't play like Monaco or PSG.
You see something new everytime on the pitch.
I want to play matches again and again and again.
I hope it will be like that all the year.
FC IQ is a really nice feature. When you change the role of your CB, they became stronger.
My Defenders have a better mark at the end of the match than my BU. In this game, I love took a Defender to break CPU actions.
EA needs only to add more natural faults in this game and it will be one my favorite FIFA games ever with FIFA 14 and FIFA 16.
I played with Marseille on career mode and Montpellier didn't play like Monaco or PSG.
You see something new everytime on the pitch.
I want to play matches again and again and again.
I hope it will be like that all the year.
FC IQ is a really nice feature. When you change the role of your CB, they became stronger.
My Defenders have a better mark at the end of the match than my BU. In this game, I love took a Defender to break CPU actions.
EA needs only to add more natural faults in this game and it will be one my favorite FIFA games ever with FIFA 14 and FIFA 16.