EA SPORTS FC 24

MTS said:
Didn't try Tactical but really enjoying advanced, will you stay on tactical, how is it?
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I'd say it works well tbh. Legacy was really hold down X (or A) until your player steals the ball. Tactical is more full control, I guess. You can slide and take a big step to try and win the ball, but I feel the key point is the jockeying. It's the best way to block the AI, and on occasion, the block will feel like something from a real match.

I would say though, I've noticed that if I jump to a different game, like eFootball for example, I do press those same buttons by force of habit, so it becomes a natural reflex when defending, whether that's positive or negative is up to you
 
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FC Bayern said:
I'd say it works well tbh. Legacy was really hold down X (or A) until your player steals the ball. Tactical is more full control, I guess. You can slide and take a big step to try and win the ball, but I feel the key point is the jockeying. It's the best way to block the AI, and on occasion, the block will feel like something from a real match.

I would say though, I've noticed that if I jump to a different game, like eFootball for example, I do press those same buttons by force of habit, so it becomes a natural reflex when defending, whether that's positive or negative is up to you
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Gotcha, i will probably take a look after i got the hang of advanced well, my brain will explode from too many layout schemes eheh
 
Well, I got in doubts if I would say something about the game or not but decided to say some things…
Got the game due to share account on PS5 with a friend , since I was decided not to buy more EA games…

I am a long time soccer player like many here and played almost all FIFA games and like almost everyone here, another one that has hope to see a new football game that aims for realism and simulation.

Even if I prefer simulation, during Fifa17 to FIFA19 era , I embarked in the more competitive side of the game ( yes I played ultimate team for 3 full years) and while is a mode that is a joke in regards to the actual sport, at least it gave a knowledge of all the game mechanics.

Anyway, got the game yesterday and played 15 to 20 games offline. First with all the sliders mentioned here but after with just the default speed and default sliders and controls with a mix of manual and semi (ground passes).

My first impressions:

- Yes, game is arcade and far from simulation and is not great but is MUCH MUCH MUCH better than the previous games. Like, really much better.

- first thing notice is the game is massively improved in 2 things that I consider essential and were really trash in the last football games (FIFAs and PES) : player positioning and movement off the ball around the pitch. This alone is a massive step up in all recent football for me.
- Lines are compact and players feel much more focused on the match, closing gaps and making pressure where ball is…
there’s no abandon game for the sides and even if the field looks bigger than previous FIFAs, players really occupy the space properly.
- Dribles and movement with the ball that are a really weak aspect in FIFA games continue to be bad but it looks and feels much worse while watching than when actually playing the game.
There’s still much skating and players movements are still very unrealistic, ugly and robotic but at least there’s new options to actually dribble instead of using just skill moves .
- Ball physics feels a bit improved and passing feels much better to me.

- Game still to fast and robotic. CPU IA still continue with the idiotic excessive ball protection close to the goal and fast passing game with very little crosses and the excessive bounces still continues and is really annoying but the player positioning and a bit of skill marking is possible to avoid some things.

- crosses are much better than previous games but it feel a bit overpowered sometimes

- Game has a massive amount of mechanics and is very nice to use many of them… Fully control players of the ball, manual through balls that make your teammates move different, many first touch controls and ways to get out of marking, many types of shooting , passing. All this feels More useful due to the more pressure game and lack of space on the field.


Well, I just played few hours and while is far far from a simulation game we all wanted, I think game really made lots of improvements to be a more enjoyable experience than the absolute stale previous versions of the game.

Maybe with more games played, offline gameplay and overall game can feel more stale and predictable but first impressions are much better than previous years for me.
 
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I've probably logged about 100 hours with this game now and there is absolutely nothing fun or enjoyable about playing it.

The gameplay has been designed for online ultimate team. So you're almost forced down that route to try and find enjoyment knowing full well it doesn't actually try to simulate a game of football.

Then when you play it regularly enough you realise just how many exploits there are that everyone knows about because it gets chucked all over YouTube by creators who have far too much influence over how EA go about creating the game. Meaning every single game is the same high press, fast paced, physics defying bullshit.

Competitor desperately needed but they've just completely monopolised it at this point.
 
Oba said:
I've probably logged about 100 hours with this game now and there is absolutely nothing fun or enjoyable about playing it.

The gameplay has been designed for online ultimate team. So you're almost forced down that route to try and find enjoyment knowing full well it doesn't actually try to simulate a game of football.

Then when you play it regularly enough you realise just how many exploits there are that everyone knows about because it gets chucked all over YouTube by creators who have far too much influence over how EA go about creating the game. Meaning every single game is the same high press, fast paced, physics defying bullshit.

Competitor desperately needed but they've just completely monopolised it at this point.
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Exactly my main issues with the game, ruined by the developers making the game for the creators and then further ruined by the creators who revel in revealing EVERY exploit, every player and every tactic and formation to use to maximise the chance of a win. So then everyone plays the same way and everyone doesn't win on merit, cos they are just using ALL the exploits they've been told about.
 
Oba said:
I've probably logged about 100 hours with this game now and there is absolutely nothing fun or enjoyable about playing it.

The gameplay has been designed for online ultimate team. So you're almost forced down that route to try and find enjoyment knowing full well it doesn't actually try to simulate a game of football.

Then when you play it regularly enough you realise just how many exploits there are that everyone knows about because it gets chucked all over YouTube by creators who have far too much influence over how EA go about creating the game. Meaning every single game is the same high press, fast paced, physics defying bullshit.

Competitor desperately needed but they've just completely monopolised it at this point.
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Sangha Nikum said:
Where's the link to download the gameplay bro? Is it only graphics mod?
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How did it take you 100 hours to figure that out , thats two and half weeks of a full time job :)
 
So after requesting a refund, i was asked to provide a video showing the issues. Sony have told me they can't see anything wrong with this on the 2nd highest level :LMAO:

Ignore the defending at the beginning, i had the wrong profile on enabled my controller.



I can literally do this over and over again. Was 6-0 up after 15mins.
 
Bravez said:
So after requesting a refund, i was asked to provide a video showing the issues. Sony have told me they can't see anything wrong with this on the 2nd highest level :LMAO:

Ignore the defending at the beginning, i had the wrong profile on enabled my controller.



I can literally do this over and over again. Was 6-0 up after 15mins.
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Awful - Sony's refund policy is awful too.

Similar thing happened to me with FIFA 23 last year without mods on PC. Can just run through the defence to be one on one with GK. Ended up winning 5-0 on World Class difficulty when playing Barcelona vs Real Madrid. World Class my arse!
 
Bravez said:
So after requesting a refund, i was asked to provide a video showing the issues. Sony have told me they can't see anything wrong with this on the 2nd highest level :LMAO:

Ignore the defending at the beginning, i had the wrong profile on enabled my controller.



I can literally do this over and over again. Was 6-0 up after 15mins.
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Sorry but I have to side with Sony on this one.
"Sorry mate, that's just Fifa. It's sort of on you if you haven't figured that out by now"
That's what I would have said.

Then I would have refunded you half anyway and skimmed the rest for myself
 
Played out a fantastically tight game with Brighton and Fulham yesterday. Loving the new EPL scoreboards, but they need to fix it for white teams like Liverpool away
Isslander said:
Sorry but I have to side with Sony on this one.
"Sorry mate, that's just Fifa. It's sort of on you if you haven't figured that out by now"
That's what I would have said.

Then I would have refunded you half anyway and skimmed the rest for myself
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Plus, there was a fantastic deal on EA Play to try the game out first, before you buy it. If you can afford to buy the game, then the cost of EA Play at £0.79 should be nothing
 
FC Bayern said:
Played out a fantastically tight game with Brighton and Fulham yesterday. Loving the new EPL scoreboards, but they need to fix it for white teams like Liverpool away

Plus, there was a fantastic deal on EA Play to try the game out first, before you buy it. If you can afford to buy the game, then the cost of EA Play at £0.79 should be nothing
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The game wasn't bugged at the beginning. This isn't an issue with me not liking the game, the difficulty levels literally don't work ffs.
 
Bravez said:
The game wasn't bugged at the beginning. This isn't an issue with me not liking the game, the difficulty levels literally don't work ffs.
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I had an issue like this in the Switch beta. I found that in the cpu slider settings their acceleration kept setting itself to 0
 
Explanations related to Advanced Defending​

In the FC 24 version, a new feature called advanced defending has been introduced, which is a new defensive mechanism for defending, and many questions have arisen whether it is more practical to use the new advanced defending mechanism or the tactical defending mechanism that we have had for years. Do we use it?

First, an explanation about how to use advanced defending, what is it like?
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Advance Defending is a new setting that changes the layout of the defending buttons. The goal is to give players the choice of what defensive action they want to launch.

  • Press X || A to request a Shoulder Challenge or Seal Out
  • Press O || B to request a Stand Tackle
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According to the explanation given, if you use Advanced Defending, you have more freedom and choice in how to defend against opposing players. At first glance, you might say to yourself that the use of advanced defending only creates an apparent freedom of action in the way we defend, and it is not very effective in the defensive gameplay core of the game!

The videos that I share with my friends, I hope that you can get the answer to this question, and in the end, you are the one who chooses which type of defense mechanism is more useful for you, and in this article, I will give you the explanations, and the final decision is yours. .

The use of Advanced Defending does not end only with the apparent use of the X button to defend body to body and the square button for Stand Tackle, and there have been more fundamental changes in this regard, especially when you intend to use the X button to defend. Use body-to-body/shoulder-to-shoulder, of course, the use of X does not only include body-to-body defense, but it is wider, and you can find out about this with the videos that I leave for friends.

Advanced defending is different from tactical defending. It is less manual. It means that when you use advanced defending, by pressing the X button, your defense will make the desired ball catch according to its intelligence and defensive abilities. Using advanced defending, the ability of the defenses is seen better and more clearly, and this is where the defensive features of the play style are further explained and the defensive skills of the players are seen to be more practical and efficient compared to tactical defending.

When you are defending and the opponent player is in front of you, according to the distance and angle you have in front of the opponent player, when you use the X button, the defensive core of the game will create the best defense mode for you, which the animations It is specially intended for this task that you will not see many animations when using tactical defending and you cannot use the new defensive features.
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  • For example, in the video below, when I was in control of jamal musiala, when I held the speed trigger and pressed the X button, musiala tried to kick the opponent player with a strong pressure. As I said, according to the distance, angle and physical condition of the player, you will see all kinds of ball shots, which you can see and understand in the next videos.​

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  • Two more examples when I pressed the X button while running and my player takes the ball from the opponent by kicking and if you learn to work with it, defending will be easier and more practical for you than tactical defending.​

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  • These are other examples of different types of catching the ball with the X button, and as you can see, the player of my team named Jonathan Tah, who is a strong defender, when I press the X button, he catches the ball like a shield, that is, with Shielding and blocking the opponent's way by using the high physical strength that is taking the ball from the opponent's player.​

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  • Similarly, another type of catching the ball with X, where Niklas Süle uses her body strength, kicks and takes the ball from the opponent player like a shield.
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  • Another example of catching the ball with the X button, which you can see, is the type of catching the ball during physical battles between two players. In these moments, you press the X button continuously and repeatedly, and your player is trying to disturb the balance of the opponent's player by constantly kicking and throwing his hands, so that he cannot have proper control of the ball, and you see that the opponent's player With constant pressure from me, he finally loses the ball.​

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  • And this video is exactly like the way of catching the ball, you press the X button continuously and repeatedly, and Joshua Kimmich persistently presses the player and kicks the ball out. This kicking is done by this player himself, and as I said, the X button is useful in advanced defending and you should use it a lot.​
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  • The last example that I will give you the video of is related to pressuring the opponent when you are behind the player and you want to put pressure on him, as you can see in the video, on the other hand when he is behind the player, I will continuously try I press the X button and Antonio Rüdiger charges the opponent with his hands.​
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Finally, it must be said that if you can learn to work with advanced defending, it can show much better performance than using tactical defending, you will see more diversity in the ball catching section, you will see more animations And defending becomes easier and better for you. Likewise, using the square button is similar to tactical defending, and I feel that when I use the square button in advanced defending, we see more diverse ball catching animations than in tactical defending.

The videos posted for you are part of the examples and you will see more diverse movements and animations during the game while defending. The only problem I have with advanced defending is that in some places, when you press the X button on the opponent, fouls are made on the opponent's player, which the referee ignores, and I have seen problems in this field anyway.​
 
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So they wouldn’t give me my money back. I’m not surprised.
I’ve been forcing myself to play it just because I don’t like wasting money. It feels such a labour to play though. I’ve been playing career mode with Wolfsburg and seem to be able to just run through every defence put in front of me. I wouldn’t even call myself a good player! Are they going to patch it (for the millionth time) to fix the ai or are we stuck with it? Anyone got any inside info about it?
 
PES4eva said:
So they wouldn’t give me my money back. I’m not surprised.
I’ve been forcing myself to play it just because I don’t like wasting money. It feels such a labour to play though. I’ve been playing career mode with Wolfsburg and seem to be able to just run through every defence put in front of me. I wouldn’t even call myself a good player! Are they going to patch it (for the millionth time) to fix the ai or are we stuck with it? Anyone got any inside info about it?
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Don't expect them to fix anything. Even on ultimate difficulty you can run the whole pitch with a CB by running, stopping, changing direction, rinse and repeat. Just move onto another game and admit you've been scammed.
 
fear said:
Don't expect them to fix anything. Even on ultimate difficulty you can run the whole pitch with a CB by running, stopping, changing direction, rinse and repeat. Just move onto another game and admit you've been scammed.
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I completely admit I’ve been scammed lol
 
PES4eva said:
So they wouldn’t give me my money back. I’m not surprised.
I’ve been forcing myself to play it just because I don’t like wasting money. It feels such a labour to play though. I’ve been playing career mode with Wolfsburg and seem to be able to just run through every defence put in front of me. I wouldn’t even call myself a good player! Are they going to patch it (for the millionth time) to fix the ai or are we stuck with it? Anyone got any inside info about it?
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If they fix it, it'd be inadvertent from addressing something else. Bursting has been around since FIFA 17, and the only way to combat it is some sort of acceleration + sprint discrepancy in favor of the CPU.

We test this a lot and don't have the issue as much anymore. Our go-to is as mentioned with the discrepancy in Sprint and Acceleration. Professional and World Class is a bit easier to burst compared to Legendary and Ultimate though.
 
Matt10 said:
If they fix it, it'd be inadvertent from addressing something else. Bursting has been around since FIFA 17, and the only way to combat it is some sort of acceleration + sprint discrepancy in favor of the CPU.

We test this a lot and don't have the issue as much anymore. Our go-to is as mentioned with the discrepancy in Sprint and Acceleration. Professional and World Class is a bit easier to burst compared to Legendary and Ultimate though.
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I’m not really a FIFA/EAFC guy but I felt like playing a new football game and there’s not a lot of options. That’s why I bought it. There’s so much weirdness that happens during games. Like randomly bizarre stuff. Shooting is pretty much a goal every time once I’m in the box, which is quite often due to being able to run through a lot. The controls are hard to explain and I think the only way I can describe them is floaty? Delayed? Do they even have a Q.A team?
Im a PES 6 fan and the controls are tight and responsive. I’m at a loss as to why a game that is nearly 20 years old plays about a million times better than a game that was released a month or so ago.
 
I'm a bit shocked at how much the matched formation matters in this game. I don't mean realistic tactics, just their impact on the outcome. If you have the wrong tactics, sometimes you get three quick hits and in 20/30 minutes you lose 0-3. If you choose the right tactics, the AI does not work terribly effectively, rushing in a straight line towards the goal, or it does not know how to bite you at all.
 
krzysiek923 said:
I'm a bit shocked at how much the matched formation matters in this game. I don't mean realistic tactics, just their impact on the outcome. If you have the wrong tactics, sometimes you get three quick hits and in 20/30 minutes you lose 0-3. If you choose the right tactics, the AI does not work terribly effectively, rushing in a straight line towards the goal, or it does not know how to bite you at all.
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What's more shocking is that I could create and save a tactic on a memory card on PS1 and at this day and age I have to re do it every time i play with a new team
 
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