EA SPORTS FC 24

PES4eva said:
I’m not really a FIFA/EAFC guy but I felt like playing a new football game and there’s not a lot of options. That’s why I bought it. There’s so much weirdness that happens during games. Like randomly bizarre stuff. Shooting is pretty much a goal every time once I’m in the box, which is quite often due to being able to run through a lot. The controls are hard to explain and I think the only way I can describe them is floaty? Delayed? Do they even have a Q.A team?
Im a PES 6 fan and the controls are tight and responsive. I’m at a loss as to why a game that is nearly 20 years old plays about a million times better than a game that was released a month or so ago.
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Because

The product had to be close to being spot on when released as there were no online updates to change it

It was made for an entirely different type of gamer. Not many people, compared to online players, give a shit about career mode and even if they do play it they want goals goals goals - not 1 -1 draws

Sad really but thats the way it is
 
FC Bayern said:
Using the consoles capture software. PC, the Xbox bar I'd assume
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So no then because I’m playing it on switch lol
I find it odd that a football game doesn’t have a built in feature to save replays. Wonder what the reason is for not having it? Seems like it should be in a football game by default.
 
PES4eva said:
I’m not really a FIFA/EAFC guy but I felt like playing a new football game and there’s not a lot of options. That’s why I bought it. There’s so much weirdness that happens during games. Like randomly bizarre stuff. Shooting is pretty much a goal every time once I’m in the box, which is quite often due to being able to run through a lot. The controls are hard to explain and I think the only way I can describe them is floaty? Delayed? Do they even have a Q.A team?
Im a PES 6 fan and the controls are tight and responsive. I’m at a loss as to why a game that is nearly 20 years old plays about a million times better than a game that was released a month or so ago.
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Floaty and delayed are exactly how the controls are in this game.

Fifa 06, pes 06, those games had very nice and lag free controls which is why they felt satisfying. If the basic controls of the game feels laggy, then it doesn't even matter if the AI is good. The experience will be more or less frustrating. And FC24 doesn't even have good AI.
 
Sami 1999 said:
Floaty and delayed are exactly how the controls are in this game.

Fifa 06, pes 06, those games had very nice and lag free controls which is why they felt satisfying. If the basic controls of the game feels laggy, then it doesn't even matter if the AI is good. The experience will be more or less frustrating. And FC24 doesn't even have good AI.
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Yeah it’s a shame really. This is the first new football game I’ve bought in quite a few years and was hoping for much better. You’re right about many things. If the fundamentals like player control isn’t there then how can it ever be a good game? You can dress it up with licences, graphics etc but none of that matters if the fundamentals aren’t there. Can something like this even be patched? If it can would they patch it anyway?
 
PES4eva said:
Yeah it’s a shame really. This is the first new football game I’ve bought in quite a few years and was hoping for much better. You’re right about many things. If the fundamentals like player control isn’t there then how can it ever be a good game? You can dress it up with licences, graphics etc but none of that matters if the fundamentals aren’t there. Can something like this even be patched? If it can would they patch it anyway?
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Majority of the FUT playerbase don't seem to care about responsive controls. Maybe it makes sense why the AI is so dumb and you can just run forward and score in FUT. It's to compensate for the lack of tight controls. As long as they can dash forward and score goals, it's good enough for them.

What I don't get is if the controls are laggy, the least they could do was to make the animations better and less floaty since there's enough delay between the input and player response. But players are skating all over the place in this game compared to games that were more responsive [like fifa 10, 11, 15, 18 etc]. Striking a balance between animations and response is a decent compromise too [eg: FIFA 16] which has not been the case for EA FC.

So it doesn't matter if they can patch it with updates. There really is no reason for them to improve it unfortunately.
 
Sami 1999 said:
Majority of the FUT playerbase don't seem to care about responsive controls. Maybe it makes sense why the AI is so dumb and you can just run forward and score in FUT. It's to compensate for the lack of tight controls. As long as they can dash forward and score goals, it's good enough for them.

What I don't get is if the controls are laggy, the least they could do was to make the animations better and less floaty since there's enough delay between the input and player response. But players are skating all over the place in this game compared to games that were more responsive [like fifa 10, 11, 15, 18 etc]. Striking a balance between animations and response is a decent compromise too [eg: FIFA 16] which has not been the case for EA FC.

So it doesn't matter if they can patch it with updates. There really is no reason for them to improve it unfortunately.
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I think they went for a realistic running and turning style. For example, when you’re at full sprint with the ball and then try and do a complete turn it’s like turning a bus (depending on the player you use). It’s realistic in a sense but it doesn’t translate very well to an enjoyable game. Combine that with delayed control response and it’s not a great recipe.
I don’t play ultimate team, only manager career really so I can’t imagine how bad this online vs a human.
 
By far the worst system in this game is the defense system. I have the impression that there is no effective system here and everything is based on randomness and luck. I know the mechanics, but when the opponent is in the left or right part of my penalty area, you have to rely on luck. Shoulder tackle is useless, and X (on Xbox, hard tackle) is very risky, often resulting in a foul and a penalty kick and when you try to use LT, this results in an immediate pass to another CPU player and a shot at goal.
 
PES4eva said:
I think they went for a realistic running and turning style. For example, when you’re at full sprint with the ball and then try and do a complete turn it’s like turning a bus (depending on the player you use). It’s realistic in a sense but it doesn’t translate very well to an enjoyable game. Combine that with delayed control response and it’s not a great recipe.
I don’t play ultimate team, only manager career really so I can’t imagine how bad this online vs a human.
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I'm not an EA gamer, but isn't that how it should be? What are the players' stats for if at the time of playing an ovr 70 they can do the same as an ovr 90
 
okaranza said:
I'm not an EA gamer, but isn't that how it should be? What are the players' stats for if at the time of playing an ovr 70 they can do the same as an ovr 90
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Maybe i didn’t explain it very well. Yes the players should move differently depending on their abilities but it’s sometimes like turning a bus. It’s mainly down to the controls I think. There’s delayed response combined with sluggishness. If the controls were more responsive I don’t think it would be an issue. I don’t think it’s just me that feels this way. It’s well documented all over the Internet about this games failings. Though I will say that I’m getting used to it but I’m having to make a movement or press a button slightly before I should have to. I don’t think you should have to compensate for unresponsive controls though when buying a game.
You can still have a fun game if you compensate for delays but again, I don’t think I should have to do that.
 
okaranza said:
I'm not an EA gamer, but isn't that how it should be? What are the players' stats for if at the time of playing an ovr 70 they can do the same as an ovr 90
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Yes that's how it should be. A player with lower stats shouldn't be as agile as high stat player.

The problem with FC24 and some other fifa games is that they delay in movement is too much. Even higher stat players feel sluggish to turn and move. And it gets even worse with average stat player. In games where the controls are responsive, the low stat player is still slower than higher stat player, but it's responsive enough to not be frustrating.
 
For me, it's this latency I like in this EAFC 24. There is a little touche of old PES with that.

The big issue of the lastest FIFA was this insane responsive controls. Player should have inertia and can't turn in a half second.

Average and high level players didn't feel the same in this EAFC 24. On FUMA, it is clearly heavier than previous years and it's a good things and I don't want they removed that.

It's only a personnal taste, but if it haven't so much bugs, it's the best gameplay since FIFA 17.

You can physic on défense, it's really nice to make a little shoulders kick to win the ball. You see often on the pitch a CPU team mate who blocked your defender to help the CPU striker. You feel it on the pad to, with a little vibration.

All these little tweaks on the gameplay help, to my opinion, have the more fun gameplay since FIFA 17.

On career mode, with a better stamina progression, you have to made the best choices in strategy to have the most fresh team on the pitch.

All the stats at the end of the match helped to adjust your sliders.
 
After playing the 10 hour trial I can honestly say FC 24 is hilariously shambolic and wouldn't be worth anyone's time even if it were a free to play game. Watching players running through midfielders and defenders with no resistance like they're training cones in an Ai vs Ai match is pure comedy gold.
 
I am playing only Career mode offline and i am seriously considering to delete the game in order to play again without any patch due to the fact that the game has become way to fast like ping pong game.The worst is that players can turn in a millisecond from one side to another and its like ninja (totally unrealistic) and when i try to handle this by lowering acceleration slider bellow 45-44 then overall player movement feels better but this creates other problems like attackers can blow by the entire team from the wing...

Plus the fact that i will have to start all over my career mode from scratch while i am in my second year (promoted from SeriaB to SeriaA) & i will have to deal also with the bug the game had from the beginning that you could accelerate with an attacker with overpowered first step push the ball ahead and no one can catch you...
I really don’t know what is worst right now.i hope they fix the "speed" issue with another update ,although i doubt it because ping pong play style keeps on line players happy
 
mj23 said:
I am playing only Career mode offline and i am seriously considering to delete the game in order to play again without any patch due to the fact that the game has become way to fast like ping pong game.The worst is that players can turn in a millisecond from one side to another and its like ninja (totally unrealistic) and when i try to handle this by lowering acceleration slider bellow 45-44 then overall player movement feels better but this creates other problems like attackers can blow by the entire team from the wing...

Plus the fact that i will have to start all over my career mode from scratch while i am in my second year (promoted from SeriaB to SeriaA) & i will have to deal also with the bug the game had from the beginning that you could accelerate with an attacker with overpowered first step push the ball ahead and no one can catch you...
I really don’t know what is worst right now.i hope they fix the "speed" issue with another update ,although i doubt it because ping pong play style keeps on line players happy
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I’m playing career offline too and the changes have improved the overall fun of the game massively in my opinion. Different strokes
 
PES4eva said:
I’m playing career offline too and the changes have improved the overall fun of the game massively in my opinion. Different strokes
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it is good that you enjoy the game mate. I personally could not play any more after latest updates. I took the chance to delete the game and now i play the very first version of the game that i havent had the chance to play because when i bought the game on 15 Oct i think it was already patched at least once.

The game plays very different and it is so much better in my opinion.Way slower gameplay,players cannot stop & turn in a dime,cpu AI is better. Defense is so much better.I can even get the ball with sliding tackles now which with speed the game had after updates ,i couldn’t even dream about it.I play with sliders
I was certain that i could not continue with my save file in career mode because it was on a different game version like it happened to me in the past with previous games, but the game continues normally and i can load my save game although i am with the very first version.
 
mj23 said:
it is good that you enjoy the game mate. I personally could not play any more after latest updates. I took the chance to delete the game and now i play the very first version of the game that i havent had the chance to play because when i bought the game on 15 Oct i think it was already patched at least once.

The game plays very different and it is so much better in my opinion.Way slower gameplay,players cannot stop & turn in a dime,cpu AI is better. Defense is so much better.I can even get the ball with sliding tackles now which with speed the game had after updates ,i couldn’t even dream about it.I play with sliders
I was certain that i could not continue with my save file in career mode because it was on a different game version like it happened to me in the past with previous games, but the game continues normally and i can load my save game although i am with the very first version.
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I mean it’s more enjoyable. I consider it an OK game now but with unresponsive controls. It’s more that I’ve got used to it rather than me thinking it’s a great game if that makes sense.
 
mj23 said:
it is good that you enjoy the game mate. I personally could not play any more after latest updates. I took the chance to delete the game and now i play the very first version of the game that i havent had the chance to play because when i bought the game on 15 Oct i think it was already patched at least once.

The game plays very different and it is so much better in my opinion.Way slower gameplay,players cannot stop & turn in a dime,cpu AI is better. Defense is so much better.I can even get the ball with sliding tackles now which with speed the game had after updates ,i couldn’t even dream about it.I play with sliders
I was certain that i could not continue with my save file in career mode because it was on a different game version like it happened to me in the past with previous games, but the game continues normally and i can load my save game although i am with the very first version.
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What have you done to revert the game to its first version?
 
amartingil said:
What have you done to revert the game to its first version?
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you just have to delete the game from the main Ps5 menu.But you must have the disk version of the game.Then you install the game again but you have to set "Internet conection" to OFF when you play because it will sometime start to download the latest update again.So whenever you want to play another game and you need to have internet on again you must be aware to "pause & cancel" the update from downloading every time... it is a "painfull" proccedure but this is the only way. In case sometime the update will be installed again you can just delete it again and reinstall - copy the game
 
Just me, or has the AI difficulty increased. I play FUMA on World Class, and a game away to Saarbrücken (me as Bayern), went to ET 3-3. I'm sure if I played that match 3 weeks ago, I'd have beaten them comfortably
 
FC Bayern said:
Just me, or has the AI difficulty increased. I play FUMA on World Class, and a game away to Saarbrücken (me as Bayern), went to ET 3-3. I'm sure if I played that match 3 weeks ago, I'd have beaten them comfortably
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Yes. You are right. Since the latest updates. I play exactly with the same difficulty & settings with you and i had the same feeling. But i think one part of this has to do also, with the increase of speed the game has now ,the increase of speed the way cpu players can change direction ,pass, plus the fact that human cpu controlled defenders don’t mark. With the updates tend to "come back on defence" ok behind the ball, if you set the instruction, but they don’t mark. Just keep a distance from the attacker or going the other way so the cpu can score goals
 
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