Chelsea FC thread (Champions!)

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Titans...god damnit.

Anyway, for that striker, Trezeguet is quite brilliant at times, and a huge pressence in the air.
 
Just read on BBC that SWP is on his way to Chelsea. Sort of a weird signing, how many wingers does one team really need? That said, he's definitely quality, I feel pretty bad for City he really was their inspiration, harsh to take him away in a sense, especially with the talent already in the squad. Oh well, how's that for luxury, taking off either duff or robben to be replaced by SWP!
 
I dont see why we are not bidding for Robinho, imagine Duff Robben and Robinho linking up, seems so juicy. We could beat all the clubs in the transfer battle! I think he would be perfect, that would then cover our striker and left back, then we would just need someone like Essien, or Gerrard if liv did not win the chmps lge.
 
beachryan said:
Just read on BBC that SWP is on his way to Chelsea. Sort of a weird signing, how many wingers does one team really need? That said, he's definitely quality, I feel pretty bad for City he really was their inspiration, harsh to take him away in a sense, especially with the talent already in the squad. Oh well, how's that for luxury, taking off either duff or robben to be replaced by SWP!
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Hes still with us boys, BBC!:)
 
Sulph said:
I dont see why we are not bidding for Robinho,
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I do, because he doesn't want to play for Chelsea, ergo, don't bother trying to sign him. Same with Joaquín. They'd both rather play for Real Madrid.
I personally think JM is thinking too high profile. There are a fair few decent strikers out there who could do the job, who don't have big names. I would personally prefer someone of that ilk.
 
Signing all these players and being linked with so many stars is just gonna back fire cuz a lot of players are starting to realise that joining Chelsea means you're going to a team where nobody's place in the first team is secure.
You could be the greatest player alive but one bad season will mean you're on the transfer list. And leaving Chelsea means you're just gonna be sold to a lower team cuz its not like they'll sell players to Man Utd or Arsenal.

Joining Chelsea is career suicide which is probably the main reason why players will start to turn them down. Just like Essien did today.
 
It depends how you see it really. There are both positives and negatives, although many people like to be negative about it.
The negatives: Parker (never thought we needed to sign the chap, never really rated him. However NUFC is a good club). Mutu (shame, i still believe he is a good player). Geremi (never really rated the guy anywhere on the pitch) Kezman (given chances here and there, but essentially his performances did the talking).

The positives: Crespo (off to Milan, certainly not a smaller club. A decent player - i'd keep him) Cech (raised his profile 100%, exceptional career move). J. Cole (broke into the England squad properly, finally JM has managed to realise Cole's potential. Expect him to improve next season). Robben (moving from the Eredivisie was always on the cards for the guy, the question was where - Made waves at Chelsea last season, when not injured ;) ).
 
Professor you're back?????? We miss you on PES4 ML thread man... why ain't you there anymore.

P.s. I seroiusly rate Parker, I just didn't think Chelsea needed him and bought him and wasted like 1 year of a great player's career but whatever. He's awesome and was one of EPL's best CM while in Charlton. Too bad he went to a club that didn't really need him. Oh well hopefully he'll show how great he is again at Newcastle.
 
Professor Nutmeg said:
It depends how you see it really. There are both positives and negatives, although many people like to be negative about it.
The negatives: Parker (never thought we needed to sign the chap, never really rated him. However NUFC is a good club). Mutu (shame, i still believe he is a good player). Geremi (never really rated the guy anywhere on the pitch) Kezman (given chances here and there, but essentially his performances did the talking).

The positives: Crespo (off to Milan, certainly not a smaller club. A decent player - i'd keep him) Cech (raised his profile 100%, exceptional career move). J. Cole (broke into the England squad properly, finally JM has managed to realise Cole's potential. Expect him to improve next season). Robben (moving from the Eredivisie was always on the cards for the guy, the question was where - Made waves at Chelsea last season, when not injured ;) ).
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But the thing is, you have to be like the best in your position to keep your place. You mentioned Cech but what about Cudicini? He would walk into the first team of ANY other team in England. But instead, he gets to play in the Carling Cup. Crespo isnt a positive cuz he wants to move but Chelsea dont let him. Joe Cole is only playing because Robben wasnt. If Duff, Robben and Cole are all fit, someone is gonna be unlucky out of those three. And you've already mentioned Parker, Kezman and Mutu who had a nightmare at Stamford Bridge.
What sucks even more is that Tiago and Jarosik have more chance of playing than the players I mentioned above. And the only reason they play is because Tiago is portugese and Jarosik is from CSKA.
And then theres those loan deals like Crespo, Veron, Forsell, etc. Again these players could fit into many teams but instead, Chelsea want to hold on to them and loan them out instead. What this now does is give them a advantage when playing against those teams cuz Veron, Crespo and the rest are not allowed to play against Chelsea which gives them an unfair advantage. If Milan had played Chelsea in the CL final, Crespo wouldnt have played. Imagine how many people that would have pissed off.

Sorry if this is turning into a rant but Chelsea are ruining player's careers and their actions are making them look...evil. :(
 
I hate that loan clause they can put in there like RuneEdge said. I don't mind players being loaned but it's only fun when they can play and score hat-trick against employers to show they shouldn't have been loaned out. I hate this new clause that many teams include in the contract when loaning out players. It makes many good players miss clashes between current team vs. Employer and he's right had it been a Milan vs. Chelsea final without Crespo playing, I would've been pissed and I'm a neutral fan.
 
Chelsea are not ruining players careers.

Some are happy to stay on the side lines, eg. Huth and Cudicini, because they are loyal for the club and wants what best for it.

The players know exactly where they fit in when they join a club, they are aware the players that they have to compete with. e.g When Parker came he knew he had to out do Makelele in the centre, but he still wanted to join, the players are just stupid if they know they are not going to get a first team place.
 
That's true to, I mean Parker KNEW he's gonna have lot of competition for a starting place yet he CHOSE to come instead of opting to stay in Charlton where he was setting league on fire at times with his performances or move to a bigger club but more assured of first-team action so I agree, we can't say Chelsea are ruining anybody's career. Parker chose to come knowing the circumstances and now he's left because he's finally come to his senses, he's too talented and young to just sit on bench at his prime when he could do much better.
 
RuneEdge said:
You mentioned Cech but what about Cudicini? He would walk into the first team of ANY other team in England.
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That's exactly it though. Carlo was plucked from tiny Castel di Sangro for £160,000 and made a name for himself AT Chelsea. The guy wouldn't look out of place in any top team in Europe. His move to Chelsea was possibly the best of his career. Next season could be his. One never knows. Cech could get injured in pre-season or thereabouts and loose his place. Watch this space ;)
 
PLF said:
That's true to, I mean Parker KNEW he's gonna have lot of competition for a starting place...
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You lot are obviously right but this is just explaining the point I made earlier. Players have seen what happens at Chelsea and arent stupid enought to follow Parker. One of the biggest reasons why Gerrard stayed at Liverpool was because Benitez constantly reminded him that at Chelsea, he's just another player who could easily be replaced if he wasnt playing at his best. But at Liverpool, he's treated like a king.
When players turn down Chelsea, this is the biggest reason why.
 
I think not letting loan players paly against you is fully justified look what happened to Madrid with Morientes after that who wouldnt!
 
RuneEdge said:
You lot are obviously right but this is just explaining the point I made earlier. Players have seen what happens at Chelsea and arent stupid enought to follow Parker. One of the biggest reasons why Gerrard stayed at Liverpool was because Benitez constantly reminded him that at Chelsea, he's just another player who could easily be replaced if he wasnt playing at his best. But at Liverpool, he's treated like a king.
When players turn down Chelsea, this is the biggest reason why.
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I think Gerrard would be treated like a king at Chelsea too. Right now its pretty much just Terry, Robben and Lampard who are the top 3 amongst fans but Gerrard would get in there too. And he would definitely get a starting place above Makelele.

It would have been Lampard Gerrard and Someone Stupid like Tiago on the right. He could not be easily replaced, that is rubbish. Makelele would come in for him ONLY if he was injured.

Also that is not why he did not come to Chelsea, the reason he did not come was because they won the Champions League, hopefully by the end of next season he will know that it was a one time thing :p.
 
Makelele in the bench? That's crazy.
Not even for gerrard.
Gerrard would play with makelele but not for makelele.

Selling him was Real's biggest mistake in the last 5 years.
 
What do you lot think about the difficulties of getting a new striker. Will you manage with the ones you have ?

It looks like Kezman is off, rumours today that Crespo will return but like Drogba they havent made much of an impact on English soil. Gudjohnson can do a job but doesnt score loads. Maybe Forsell could have done ok given the chance, it was only a few seasons ago he was banging them in for Birmingham
 
I have this strange feeling that clubs everywhere now are showing Chelski that,they cant buy whomever they want with their money.All bids for top strikers have been turned down so far.
 
I think we should call Crespo back and use him as our first choice striker. Gudjohnsen could be it too. I dont understand Drogba.
 
Ok now we have 2 strikers as Kezman has gone to Athletico Madrid.

I feel we only need 2, Drogba and Gudjohnsen, with Robbo being able to play there as well. It is quite a waste having 4 strikers and only 1 position for them in the 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 that we use.

If Crespo is back, 3 top strikers will be competing for 1 striking spot above Robbo and Duffer. If Crespo doesent come and if at one point in time both Gud and Drog are injured Robben can move up front and Joe Cole will come with Duff as the wingers.

Problem is Robben can't really head and is quite short which does not fit in with our system.
 
Sulph said:
I think Gerrard would be treated like a king at Chelsea too. Right now its pretty much just Terry, Robben and Lampard who are the top 3 amongst fans but Gerrard would get in there too. And he would definitely get a starting place above Makelele.

It would have been Lampard Gerrard and Someone Stupid like Tiago on the right. He could not be easily replaced, that is rubbish. Makelele would come in for him ONLY if he was injured.

Also that is not why he did not come to Chelsea, the reason he did not come was because they won the Champions League, hopefully by the end of next season he will know that it was a one time thing :p.
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No way would Gerrard be treat like a king at Chelsea. At Liverpool, he's the best player there but at Chelsea, he's just another player.
Answer this question. Who's a overall better player? Terry, Lampard or Gerrard? And out of those three, who is the irreplaceable one?
Now look at Liverpool. Who at Liverpool can you say is better than Gerrard?
I'm telling you, Gerrard was never gonna leave. He was very close to at the start of last season just after Euro 2004 but once he decided to stay, it became more and more likely he wasnt gonna leave especially as the season went on cuz things like scoring that own goal for Chelsea in the Carling Cup final just made him more and more determined to beat you.
And another thing is that Gerrard will never be the same player we know if he was wearing a shirt other than the Liverpool shirt.
 
Gerrard would have left if Liv did not win the Champions League, he was poised to make that 31M move last summer too. Also, if he was commited to the club as he is now, why did he not reassure the fans earlier than waiting until this moment?

And he would not be just another player. Robben, Lampard and Terry are not just some players.
 
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Cuddly Pete seems to be working his transfer magic again...

Bids turned down for Adriano, Etoo, Shevchenko, Torres, Trezeguet, and Essien.

On top of that he has managed to get a pittance for the combined transfers of Kezman, Veron and Forsell.

Keep up the good work Pete.
 
I had to break your post down. Makes it easier for me. :D
Sulph said:
Gerrard would have left if Liv did not win the Champions League, he was poised to make that 31M move last summer too.
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All that was just speculation. Chelsea are always linked with players. There was a time when Joaquin looked very likely to move but for some reason decided to stay. Its all crap made by newspaper reporters.

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Also, if he was commited to the club as he is now, why did he not reassure the fans earlier than waiting until this moment?
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Players always take their time to sign contracts cuz they want to keep their options open. Ryan Giggs took ages to sign his contract and he kept reasuring fans that he's never gonna move even though there was rumours that he might move to Inter or Boro. In the end, he signed the deal. The same is now happening with Ruud, Ronaldo and Rio.

Sulph said:
And he would not be just another player. Robben, Lampard and Terry are not just some players.
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You dont get my point. At Chelsea, they have many great and important players that if Gerrard joined them, he wouldnt really stand out. He'll just be another Chelsea player like Lampard or Robben. But at Liverpool, he's the captain, THE player that makes the team, the most valuable member of the squad and the most irreplaceable. And Liverpool need Gerrard more than Chelsea need him.


Vannizzlefashizzal said:
Cuddly Pete seems to be working his transfer magic again...

Bids turned down for Adriano, Etoo, Shevchenko, Torres, Trezeguet, and Essien.

On top of that he has managed to get a pittance for the combined transfers of Kezman, Veron and Forsell.

Keep up the good work Pete.
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You forgot Robinho and Joaquin. :mrgreen:
 
Professor Nutmeg said:
It's quite simple. If you owned one of the former mentioned above players, would you want to sell them to a European rival? No, nobody would. I totally understand why.
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lol yeah of course why didnt I think of that!

Kenyon is useless at what he was employed for, as United supporters will tell you, even with unlimted funds he still cant attract world class players to Chelsea, your kezmans and drogba's are no problem but other than Robben (which he had to pay way over the odds to get) he's not exactly pulling up tree's is he now.
 
Why exactly did Chelsea get Kenyon?
There are a million better people that can do his job.
We lost out on Ronaldinho cuz of that shit.
 
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