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Looking for a Manager
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jonneymendoza
Legend
- 1 January 2004
- Arsenal
priceless
Wilko22
Confusions Familiar
- 19 March 2003
- Manchester United
Well really, having the nerve to score past your international team mate, I'm with Krul on this one, Van Persie should of had more respect and let someone else score.
Rantboy
International
- 27 December 2002
- Fluminense FC / Arsenal
I have to say I hate Sky Sports more and more each day. My suspicions that they don't like Arsenal go from paranoia to very likely possibility.
Whenever they announce a broadcast to an Arsenal match (as the last one against Newcastle) the headlines read "race for 4th".
Now I just saw the add for Man City vs Chelsea: City chasing the title, while Chelsea on the race for 3rd. I cough up on my breakfast and say "3rd"??? So, a club that sits at 4th and is in good form fights to stay in the same spot? Then how come another team who sacked their manager, run by senior players with a puppet manager, will challenge for 3rd while they're 5th in the league?
Wankers
Whenever they announce a broadcast to an Arsenal match (as the last one against Newcastle) the headlines read "race for 4th".
Now I just saw the add for Man City vs Chelsea: City chasing the title, while Chelsea on the race for 3rd. I cough up on my breakfast and say "3rd"??? So, a club that sits at 4th and is in good form fights to stay in the same spot? Then how come another team who sacked their manager, run by senior players with a puppet manager, will challenge for 3rd while they're 5th in the league?
Wankers
BobbyBox
WING NUT!
- 10 October 2003
- Arsenal
Chelsea are looking like they are getting their shit together unfortunately, I was hoping they would collapse 
We need to play really well for the remainder of the season to keep in the top 4.
We need to play really well for the remainder of the season to keep in the top 4.
Rantboy
International
- 27 December 2002
- Fluminense FC / Arsenal
Chelsea are looking like they are getting their shit together unfortunately, I was hoping they would collapse
We need to play really well for the remainder of the season to keep in the top 4.
Definitely. I'm not laughing at Chelsea's chances, it's just funny to see the approach those dickheads at Sky take on things. If momentum is anything to go by, I think Arsenal might overtake Spurs and aim for 3rd instead of settling for 4th.
Chelsea's reaction now really makes you see what a bunch of scumbag bastards they got in their ranks. Was Villas Boas really a clueless manager or could it be that he was sabotaged by Drogba et al?
That guy Di Matteo gets his orders from Terry, as we could see last week against Napoli.
This is amazing, from Samir Nasri on Canal+
"I've played too many games at Arsenal.
I'm happy with the low amount of game time at City.
I was only injured so often at Arsenal because i've played so many games. I was dead.
I've improved at Manchester City."
Magnificent.
"I've played too many games at Arsenal.
I'm happy with the low amount of game time at City.
I was only injured so often at Arsenal because i've played so many games. I was dead.
I've improved at Manchester City."
Magnificent.
gerd
Retired Footballer
Why would a television Channel have something against a team? Come on, this is indeed paranoia. I have the feeling that most media love Arsenal, Arsène and their type of football.
Wilko22
Confusions Familiar
- 19 March 2003
- Manchester United
I suspect Nasri's ego is just making excuses for not playing every game rather than him lacking the hunger to play.
I wonder if he'll protest if he's played all the time from now on?
I wonder if he'll protest if he's played all the time from now on?
Rantboy
International
- 27 December 2002
- Fluminense FC / Arsenal
Spot on Wilko. That's a way of saying "oh no, I'm not a bench warmer, the manager cares about me, so I don't have to play all the time". They should have asked Nasri about his teammates. How is David Silva not "dead" or injured all the time then?
As for the media, it's just funny but I do get some bits here and there where Sky are somehow undermining Arsenal. As for example after the Newcastle match, the host was asking Gary Neville if Van Persie should have been more gracious there in his celebrations and his confrontation with Newcastle players. Important to remember how Krul ran from all the way from his goal over to RVP to confront him. Yet it's Van Persie's attitude they are scrutinising! I say gimme a break here...
Fair play to Neville, of whom I might not be a fan, but his answer was brilliant
He just said, well, you're asking the wrong man... Van Persie is the captain, that's what the fans want to see. Fighting spirit! Well said Gary.
As for the media, it's just funny but I do get some bits here and there where Sky are somehow undermining Arsenal. As for example after the Newcastle match, the host was asking Gary Neville if Van Persie should have been more gracious there in his celebrations and his confrontation with Newcastle players. Important to remember how Krul ran from all the way from his goal over to RVP to confront him. Yet it's Van Persie's attitude they are scrutinising! I say gimme a break here...
Fair play to Neville, of whom I might not be a fan, but his answer was brilliant
He just said, well, you're asking the wrong man... Van Persie is the captain, that's what the fans want to see. Fighting spirit! Well said Gary.
tc811
Resident Evo-Web Retard
And he has no chin. What a crock. At least we know why he left Arsenal then!
Rantboy
International
- 27 December 2002
- Fluminense FC / Arsenal
We know it, I was talking about some other things on Sky Sports' agenda: Meanie RVP celebrating and showing his troll face to poor Kroll, and how Arsenal is on the race for 4th at best, since 3rd place is Chelsea's God given right
Nasri, what can I say, what a wimp. God forbid he has to play every week. But if Mancini absolutely must, they should pay him £50k more for extra-shift! Haha
gerd
Retired Footballer
From the Guardian's website:
Anybody who thought the two draws with which Zenit St Petersburg began the third – and final – part of this marathon Russian season might signal a dip in form, opening the possibility of a realistic title challenge, was rapidly disabused on Friday. Dynamo Moscow were third in the table and had lost only twice in 17 home games this season; they seemed a genuine threat. If they could even have held Zenit to a draw, CSKA could have closed to within four points with a win in the Moscow derby against Spartak. CSKA fulfilled their part, winning 2-1, but Zenit were imperious, winning 5-1, keeping the gap at six points and, by the manner in which they did so, emphasising just how far they are ahead of every other team in Russia.
The injury to Danny, such a hub of their play as a playmaker drifting in from the left, might have derailed them, but the loan signing of Andrey Arshavin has plugged that gap. He hasn't completed any of the three games he's started for Zenit since his return from Arsenal, but his fitness is improving and, after managing only 55 minutes in his first game, he went up to 66 in his second and 71 against Dynamo. It was his assist, darting in from the left and rolling a precise pass for the ageless Sergei Semak that brought the third goal and, at that stage, he was, the match report in Sovetsky Sport noted, "the hardest-working and more dangerous player on the field".
"We displayed high-quality football, combining up nicely with each other," Arshavin said. "We took our chances well and gave the travelling fans something really special. Everything was good except the pitch which was difficult for both teams. Dynamo started the game badly and made a few mistakes and as a result we punished them."
The first two goals came from atrocious defensive errors and that, perhaps, offers the only hope for Zenit's rivals: Dynamo were two down within 15 minutes and left themselves so open as they chased the game that Zenit were able to slice through them. Alexander Kerzhakov scored two more to take his tally for the season to 20 but, inevitably, it was Arshavin who attracted most of the post-match attention.
"He looks better and better with each match," said the Zenit coach, Luciano Spalletti. "I can't judge his form. He worked hard in training at Arsenal but he lacked match practice and, as a consequence, playing shape. But he'll continue to improve."
A lack of match practice may well have been true towards the end of Arshavin's time at Arsenal – he managed just 84 minutes of playing time between the FA Cup tie against Leeds on 4 January and the end of February – but the question really is what happened before that. Arshavin is far from being back to the sort of form he showed in 2008, but he's an awful lot nearer now than he was before rejoining Zenit. A return home seems to have inspired him; perhaps his problem in his latter months in London was simply homesickness.
It's an affliction that seems particularly common among Russians: Yegor Titov has said he used to feel sick as soon as the wheels left the tarmac at Domodedovo, and in Among The Russians Colin Thubron is struck by the depth of feeling Russians have for home, how the notion of Mother Russia is so strong it almost ceases to be a metaphor.
Arshavin himself is very much a child of St Petersburg; he even met his wife on Nevsky Prospekt. He's been heavily criticised by the Russian media for his recent performances for the national team, of which he is the captain, but it may be he is playing himself into form for Euro 2012.
The other issue, at least from an English point of view, concerns Spalletti, who has been mentioned in connection with the Chelsea job. Roman Abramovich, of course, will be aware of his achievements, but the Italian extended his contract to 2015 last month. It may be that it is a defensive move by Zenit designed to ensure they receive the best compensation possible but there has been absolutely no evidence of any sort of formal or informal approach by Chelsea.
I've seen that match against Dynamo and Arshavin indeed was playing very well.
People will remember that i compared Arhavin with Reyes and that i asked myself if Arshavin didn't suffer from homesickness... I hope for football and Arsenal that he can gain confidence and return to Arsenal as being the 2008 Arshavin.
Anybody who thought the two draws with which Zenit St Petersburg began the third – and final – part of this marathon Russian season might signal a dip in form, opening the possibility of a realistic title challenge, was rapidly disabused on Friday. Dynamo Moscow were third in the table and had lost only twice in 17 home games this season; they seemed a genuine threat. If they could even have held Zenit to a draw, CSKA could have closed to within four points with a win in the Moscow derby against Spartak. CSKA fulfilled their part, winning 2-1, but Zenit were imperious, winning 5-1, keeping the gap at six points and, by the manner in which they did so, emphasising just how far they are ahead of every other team in Russia.
The injury to Danny, such a hub of their play as a playmaker drifting in from the left, might have derailed them, but the loan signing of Andrey Arshavin has plugged that gap. He hasn't completed any of the three games he's started for Zenit since his return from Arsenal, but his fitness is improving and, after managing only 55 minutes in his first game, he went up to 66 in his second and 71 against Dynamo. It was his assist, darting in from the left and rolling a precise pass for the ageless Sergei Semak that brought the third goal and, at that stage, he was, the match report in Sovetsky Sport noted, "the hardest-working and more dangerous player on the field".
"We displayed high-quality football, combining up nicely with each other," Arshavin said. "We took our chances well and gave the travelling fans something really special. Everything was good except the pitch which was difficult for both teams. Dynamo started the game badly and made a few mistakes and as a result we punished them."
The first two goals came from atrocious defensive errors and that, perhaps, offers the only hope for Zenit's rivals: Dynamo were two down within 15 minutes and left themselves so open as they chased the game that Zenit were able to slice through them. Alexander Kerzhakov scored two more to take his tally for the season to 20 but, inevitably, it was Arshavin who attracted most of the post-match attention.
"He looks better and better with each match," said the Zenit coach, Luciano Spalletti. "I can't judge his form. He worked hard in training at Arsenal but he lacked match practice and, as a consequence, playing shape. But he'll continue to improve."
A lack of match practice may well have been true towards the end of Arshavin's time at Arsenal – he managed just 84 minutes of playing time between the FA Cup tie against Leeds on 4 January and the end of February – but the question really is what happened before that. Arshavin is far from being back to the sort of form he showed in 2008, but he's an awful lot nearer now than he was before rejoining Zenit. A return home seems to have inspired him; perhaps his problem in his latter months in London was simply homesickness.
It's an affliction that seems particularly common among Russians: Yegor Titov has said he used to feel sick as soon as the wheels left the tarmac at Domodedovo, and in Among The Russians Colin Thubron is struck by the depth of feeling Russians have for home, how the notion of Mother Russia is so strong it almost ceases to be a metaphor.
Arshavin himself is very much a child of St Petersburg; he even met his wife on Nevsky Prospekt. He's been heavily criticised by the Russian media for his recent performances for the national team, of which he is the captain, but it may be he is playing himself into form for Euro 2012.
The other issue, at least from an English point of view, concerns Spalletti, who has been mentioned in connection with the Chelsea job. Roman Abramovich, of course, will be aware of his achievements, but the Italian extended his contract to 2015 last month. It may be that it is a defensive move by Zenit designed to ensure they receive the best compensation possible but there has been absolutely no evidence of any sort of formal or informal approach by Chelsea.
I've seen that match against Dynamo and Arshavin indeed was playing very well.
People will remember that i compared Arhavin with Reyes and that i asked myself if Arshavin didn't suffer from homesickness... I hope for football and Arsenal that he can gain confidence and return to Arsenal as being the 2008 Arshavin.
BobbyBox
WING NUT!
- 10 October 2003
- Arsenal
Very weird that you posted that Gerd as I was about to post and ask how he was getting on?! very strange.
Thats nice to hear, obviously he is loving being back where he wants to be and play.
I don't think he will be back at Arsenal though (as is mentioned at the end of the article). Seems like it is doing him good there.
very strange.Thats nice to hear, obviously he is loving being back where he wants to be and play.
I don't think he will be back at Arsenal though (as is mentioned at the end of the article). Seems like it is doing him good there.
Rantboy
International
- 27 December 2002
- Fluminense FC / Arsenal
Yeah I read that yesterday. I'm not even sure that's where he wants to be, or if he is really homesick. He left his family in London (kids going to school) and he said he hopes to come back, so I can't see this being sign of homesickness.
I like him as a player, and as a person he seems to be a very nice bloke too. This move will do wonders for him, as it will be nice to play without 60,000 people getting on his back. Quite on the contrary, in St Petersburgh he has God like status.
I think it was really disgraceful the way Arsenal "supporters" were treating him, booing even the mere announcement of his name on the subs bench. It's like playing away matches at your own stadium... no, actually is worse than that, to get booed by your fans is confidence-shattering stuff. No wonder his best matches of late were on away games.
We need a result tonight, with chances of hopefully jumping to 3rd. Come on Arsenal!
I like him as a player, and as a person he seems to be a very nice bloke too. This move will do wonders for him, as it will be nice to play without 60,000 people getting on his back. Quite on the contrary, in St Petersburgh he has God like status.
I think it was really disgraceful the way Arsenal "supporters" were treating him, booing even the mere announcement of his name on the subs bench. It's like playing away matches at your own stadium... no, actually is worse than that, to get booed by your fans is confidence-shattering stuff. No wonder his best matches of late were on away games.
We need a result tonight, with chances of hopefully jumping to 3rd. Come on Arsenal!
Rantboy
International
- 27 December 2002
- Fluminense FC / Arsenal
...and we did it! On top of that, we're now 3rd! 
bebo
Looking for a Manager
CHoo! Choo! All ooOon board! 
btw Sack Wenger!
btw Sack Wenger!
BobbyBox
WING NUT!
- 10 October 2003
- Arsenal
Fantastic with Chelsea losing and Spurs drawing, I was praying Spurs wouldn't get that goal!
3rd now, hopefully we can keep it going fingers crossed.
3rd now, hopefully we can keep it going
fingers crossed.
PLF
Legend
- 2 August 2004
Very important win for the Gunners tonight. It was KEY! Well done.
Shame about Drenthe's 'Offside' goal tho! What a joke!
Shame about Drenthe's 'Offside' goal tho! What a joke!
Rantboy
International
- 27 December 2002
- Fluminense FC / Arsenal
Amazing stuff. Thomas Vermaelen once again a match winner! For the 2nd time in a row. If you think how if it wasn't for his goals we would have had 2 draws out of these last matches, it means he is giving us 4 points singlehandedly.
That's the type of attitude we need, that never-say-die mentality, busting a gut at the last minute to go from box to box. Vermaelen may have his faults sometimes, but he is a key player for us no doubt.
Defensively he was great too and especially Koscielny, who was a monster! What a pairing they were tonight. If they keep it up for next season, it's gonna be hard for Mertesacker, who by they way, I rate very highly too. I can't remember the last time we had so many quality CBs.
Thumbs up for the resilience of those guys, sometimes you gotta win ugly too and they seem to do it at this moment too. One-nil to the Arsenal
This team is shaping up very nicely, hopefully with some good summer business AW can make it very balanced, reinforcing its midfield and attack with more options... Podolski + one more good wide player? I mean, if Arshavin isn't coming back. Maybe Hazard will be the one.
We would ideally get 2 midfielders, one creative (Rosicky is like a new man, but we never know) and one enforcer to backup Song (Frimpong cannot be relied on yet, too young, too red card prone, too injury prone).
I feel for Everton though, on the matter of the offside goal. Moyes will be furious and Wenger will say he didn't see it
That's the type of attitude we need, that never-say-die mentality, busting a gut at the last minute to go from box to box. Vermaelen may have his faults sometimes, but he is a key player for us no doubt.
Defensively he was great too and especially Koscielny, who was a monster! What a pairing they were tonight. If they keep it up for next season, it's gonna be hard for Mertesacker, who by they way, I rate very highly too. I can't remember the last time we had so many quality CBs.
Thumbs up for the resilience of those guys, sometimes you gotta win ugly too and they seem to do it at this moment too. One-nil to the Arsenal
This team is shaping up very nicely, hopefully with some good summer business AW can make it very balanced, reinforcing its midfield and attack with more options... Podolski + one more good wide player? I mean, if Arshavin isn't coming back. Maybe Hazard will be the one.
We would ideally get 2 midfielders, one creative (Rosicky is like a new man, but we never know) and one enforcer to backup Song (Frimpong cannot be relied on yet, too young, too red card prone, too injury prone).
I feel for Everton though, on the matter of the offside goal. Moyes will be furious and Wenger will say he didn't see it
gerd
Retired Footballer
For the hunderth time: Hazard isn't a wide player. Playing him wide is a big waste...he is at his best central, behind the forward(s). Van Persie Hazard would be a fantastic duo.
Congratulations with the 3th place, i guess this was inevitable. Spurs not only lost the 3th place, but also Hazard...You people have no idea how gutted i am...
What is it with Spurs?
In the current team Spurs only Van Persie, Sagna and Vermaelen are certain starters among the Arsenal players and still Arsenal are doing better than Spurs...even in a disastrous season...
Sack Harry. Not Wenger. Come to think off it: sack both of them and swap them.
Congratulations with the 3th place, i guess this was inevitable. Spurs not only lost the 3th place, but also Hazard...You people have no idea how gutted i am...
What is it with Spurs?
In the current team Spurs only Van Persie, Sagna and Vermaelen are certain starters among the Arsenal players and still Arsenal are doing better than Spurs...even in a disastrous season...
Sack Harry. Not Wenger. Come to think off it: sack both of them and swap them.
jonneymendoza
Legend
- 1 January 2004
- Arsenal
What a great result from arsenal. is this a dream? we are in a awsome run of form! And we are 3rd! awsome achievement!
cant believe wenger has turned things around! he must have read all my posts of me slagging him off and said "fuck this guy jonneymendoza, im gunna pove this fucker wrong!"
cant believe wenger has turned things around! he must have read all my posts of me slagging him off and said "fuck this guy jonneymendoza, im gunna pove this fucker wrong!"
gerd
Retired Footballer
One big happy family jonney? All united around uncle Arsène again?
jonneymendoza
Legend
- 1 January 2004
- Arsenal
i have said this to someone else and i will say it again. only a dumb fuck would still bash wenger.
There is absolutly nothing wrong with slagging someone off and then later he improved dramatically and u start praising him.
Nothing and i mean NOTHING wrong with praising someone when they do well.
Always said be careful what you wish for. I seriously hope you still want him gone though as you are a bit of a double header otherwise. Support your manager or don't. Football fans are fickle as hell.
I await a bad run from Arsenal to hear the slating once again.
I await a bad run from Arsenal to hear the slating once again.
jonneymendoza
Legend
- 1 January 2004
- Arsenal
So say if we go on a run, win teh title next year, i shoudl still ask for him to be sacked? come on pu, re read my prevoous post.
no idiot would still slate someone after they have improved there ways.
Is that how you personally treat people in real life, i'e they make a mistake, u slate them and never EVVVVVVVVVERRR praise them when they learn from there mistakes and improve?
No one gets a second chance in our book then?
gerd
Retired Footballer
Jonney, don't take my post so serious. I was only joking.
For me, you and dags are the archetypical English football fans: moaning and whining, being very enthousiastic, but always fair and honest.
At times we don't agree but you're a nice bloke and i like you (just like the other one, who doesn't seem to post anymore).
For me, you and dags are the archetypical English football fans: moaning and whining, being very enthousiastic, but always fair and honest.
At times we don't agree but you're a nice bloke and i like you (just like the other one, who doesn't seem to post anymore).
jonneymendoza
Legend
- 1 January 2004
- Arsenal
Cool ok. well im a firm believer that if someone is doing shit, i will tell them, if they learn from their mistakes i will praise them. simple as that. That is not being fickle and i bet everyone does same thing.
Rantboy
International
- 27 December 2002
- Fluminense FC / Arsenal
Neither was Arshavin a wide player, but he had to play as such for Arsenal. I reckon any attacker who comes will have to be deployed wide because RvP is untouchable in his position.
Sometimes I cry out for a 4-4-2 but Arsene Wenger is so hell bent on playing his 4-3-3 system that yesterday he even used Ramsey on the wing.
Sometimes I cry out for a 4-4-2 but Arsene Wenger is so hell bent on playing his 4-3-3 system that yesterday he even used Ramsey on the wing.