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When is Wenger going to get rid of Aliadiere, I can't believe he is still at Arsenal. Adebayor was class when he came on, he turned the game.
beboquintero said:
they were lucky to have those goals and they know it.
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There was nothing lucky about Matty Taylor's goal bebo.

P.S I think Gilberto should be given the captains armband permanently, any Arsenal fans agree?
 
Alucard said:
Where would you rather be Mr chai, top of the league having been beaten only once at home in which it is your only loss in the whole of the season so far with the rest as wins. Or sitting 4th having lossed a handful of games away and scrapped numerous draws at home keeping an unbeaten home record in which you don't get a medal for?
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everyone wants to sit on top... but only one can sit on top... so does that mean everyone else below should cry about it? or should they find the good in the mess and build on it?

so while u pompous wankers dance around for the next 3 months... we're getting ready to laugh at you all when Lille trounces u guys for the second year running...
 
RuneEdge said:
:lmao: You say crap like that then encourage Dermot to come over to the Man Utd to post his sad jokes that only you lot laugh at.
Sore losers.
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sore loser...wow your deep with insults. What`s next!


@Ad16 no nothing lucky he`s a skilled marksman he knew that ball was going to fall infront of him and a slight touch with his eyes closed :mrgreen: yes! sour
 
I dont think it was meant as an insult bebo but rather as a statement that you are in fact sore losers. You can't take any criticism when you lose or draw. Its the same with your team and manager, they start to throw tantrums and lash out at people when they know others are ahead and don't get their own way. And Mr chai, you'll be waiting a long long time to look down upon us and laugh at our expense child.

Ah I remember just a few months back after the Reading victory and people were getting carried away just because the media had a masturbation session over the 4-0 victory at the Madejski staduim, Remember that?. Never forget the quote from one of you dildos that said 'champagne football', now its more like 4th place football. Another cretin cried out 'If we keep this up we'll defintley win the title' Not the exact words but it was something along those lines. While I was slaughtered for saying it was only against Reading. Thats how siege like it is in this thread.
 
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Iceman is cool, gives and takes in equal measures (oo-er missus).

Not seen a lot of your games but who do you think you are missing most? Vieira, Bergkamp, Pires?
 
I'm sure everyone is cool here, but it doesnt refrain them from talking absolute bollocks sometimes.

I know you didnt ask me but I think Arsenal are generally missing more experinced players in their team, especially in the defense. I know there is Gallas, Gilberto and Henry who are the more prominent figures in the arsenal sqaud, but these are not the kind of individuals who will take a game by the scruff of the neck and influence the rest to grind out results. No matter how mow good Henry is, he is not captain material. The man is always sulking when things don't go his way and this rubs off on the rest of his teammates. Too many laid back artists are in the squad, no real genuine leaders like Vieira was or Sol Cambpell. I said this before and I will say it again, that Arsenal are relying too much on their younger players, people like senderous , djorou, flamini, although I admire Wengers bravery to give these yougnsters a chance they are just not good enough. Also the idea of transforming an englsh team and building it into a french one is not the solution. Just me opinion on why Arsenal have gone backwards.

I think this is sure to upset Henry FC

Arsenal vice-chairman David Dein has told Thierry Henry that there will be no new signings in the January transfer window.

Henry, who is currently sidelined with a neck injury, has reportedly told manager Arsene Wenger that the squad needs to be strengthened if the Gunners are to keep up with Manchester Utd and Chelsea.

But Dein has been told by Wenger that he will not be looking to spend the cash in January, but instead look to give the younger players their chance to mature in the Premiership.

"Arsene's said we will not be that active in January. He's very happy with a good, talented squad," Dein told the News of the World.

"Putting players on top of players you don't give the younger ones a chance, that's not right nor fair. The youngsters are maturing but won't mature if they don't play. Arsene gives youth a chance, like Cesc Fabregas."

Dein insists that Arsenal are proud of their continued ability to both find young talent and run a sustainable club at the same time.

"We are not big spenders in the market. The first 11 that took to the field against Chelsea cost less than Andrei Shevchenko on his own," added Dein.

"We look for emerging talent. We have to track players down who people haven't heard of. We scout the world to find the best talent within our budget.

"We are running a sustainable club. We are planning for the future with the youngsters."
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Probably a good thing really. Why spend shit loads of money to get third or fourth place when you'll probably get it anyway. Give these players a season and spend in the summer if you need to.
 
What!!!! because you spend time posting long stories doesn`t mean there true.I personally can take punches and most here take a lost hard just because we don`t put blame like you lots we can`t handle criticism "wrong!".The "sore losers" are playground words,I like you but you`re off ATM is it you who talks about clubs(Fans) living in the past Hell! that all you talk about "Arsenal and there past standards".No one here does more research of Arsenal history then you ,At first I said to myself "this bloke like starting fires" and now I think your a reporter.I will never attack you personally because your good people , BUT you need to sort something out.

Understand you can always attack but also give some logic in your posting with out going back 4 or 5 season ago.We`re living in the present we`re not the Arsenal of Highbury get the memo.
 
Alucard said:
I dont think it was meant as an insult bebo but rather as a statement that you are in fact sore losers. You can't take any criticism when you lose or draw. Its the same with your team and manager, they start to throw tantrums and lash out at people when they know others are ahead and don't get their own way. And Mr chai, you'll be waiting a long long time to look down upon us and laugh at our expense child.
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Exactly. You have a problem with us coming in here making comments on your failures but continue to encourage Dermot to make stupid posts in the Man Utd. How is that not a sign of a sore loser?
If you cant take it, dont dish it out.
 
RuneEdge said:
Exactly. You have a problem with us coming in here making comments on your failures but continue to encourage Dermot to make stupid posts in the Man Utd. How is that not a sign of a sore loser?
If you cant take it, dont dish it out.
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So you retaliating `cause what Dermot has done...Oh Dear!! :lol:

Rune you actually believe we`re PMing Dermot...your making Dermot a legend if that the case
 
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beboquintero said:
So you retaliating `cause what Dermot has done...Oh Dear!! :lol:

Rune you actually believe we`re PMing Dermot...your making Dermot a legend if that the case
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For f*ck's sake. Why do you have to be so stupid and drag this on and on?
I'm not retaliating because of what others said. As a matter of fact, I didnt even come here to stir things up like you lot do. I'm just saying, why moan about something that you ALSO do? If you cant handle others doing it to you, why do you do the same to others?
And just cuz you're not PMing Dermot, it doesnt mean you're not encouraging him. His jokes arent even slightly funny. The only people that laugh are you guys who are only doing it for the sake of supporting him. At first he succeeded in winding us up, now its not working cuz we can see it coming a mile away. Its just annoying now.
If anyone else wanted to, we could do the same in this thread and make stupid french jokes. But you wont see us doing that cuz we dont want to look like idiots in the process.

Keep moaning, mate. Leeds United fans did the same. F*ck knows where they eventually disappeared.
 
chAi said:
all good things come to those who wait... and in the end... we'll get the prize... just look at you bunch... its been what? 4 years? :roll:
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You want to get into that debate with a Man Utd fan? :lmao:
 
Alucard said:
I know you didnt ask me but I think Arsenal are generally missing more experinced players in their team, especially in the defense. I know there is Gallas, Gilberto and Henry who are the more prominent figures in the arsenal sqaud, but these are not the kind of individuals who will take a game by the scruff of the neck and influence the rest to grind out results. No matter how mow good Henry is, he is not captain material. The man is always sulking when things don't go his way and this rubs off on the rest of his teammates. Too many laid back artists are in the squad, no real genuine leaders like Vieira was or Sol Cambpell. I said this before and I will say it again, that Arsenal are relying too much on their younger players, people like senderous , djorou, flamini, although I admire Wengers bravery to give these yougnsters a chance they are just not good enough. Also the idea of transforming an englsh team and building it into a french one is not the solution. Just me opinion on why Arsenal have gone backwards.
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I have to say that this is how I feel about us at the moment.

Henry shouldn't be captain, it was a mistake to give him the armband. Problem is now he has got it its going to be difficult to take it away from him. I disagree we don't have natural leaders, Toure, Gilberto, Gallas would all do a better job. Henry should just have to concentrate on making and scoring goals cus that is what he does best.

We ar suffering from having a young team but it will bear fruit in 2/3 seasons from now we just have to be patient.

Is just a shame Alucard you ruin a good post by the comment about building a French team. Our best starting 11 has 3 French players in it at the moment, thats hardly a full team is it? Its a xenophobic attitude to pigeon hole players just because of their nationality, are you racist or something? I would welcome 11 French players, with 5 French subs if it meant we are the best team in Europe and won everything in sight. Our French manager has been with us 10 years now, he knows what the club stands for and is aware of its rich history. The nationality of the players at our great club is of no relevance. Get with the times.
 
Clockender said:
I have to say that this is how I feel about us at the moment.

Henry shouldn't be captain, it was a mistake to give him the armband. Problem is now he has got it its going to be difficult to take it away from him. I disagree we don't have natural leaders, Toure, Gilberto, Gallas would all do a better job. Henry should just have to concentrate on making and scoring goals cus that is what he does best.

We ar suffering from having a young team but it will bear fruit in 2/3 seasons from now we just have to be patient.

Is just a shame Alucard you ruin a good post by the comment about building a French team. Our best starting 11 has 3 French players in it at the moment, thats hardly a full team is it? Its a xenophobic attitude to pigeon hole players just because of their nationality, are you racist or something? I would welcome 11 French players, with 5 French subs if it meant we are the best team in Europe and won everything in sight. Our French manager has been with us 10 years now, he knows what the club stands for and is aware of its rich history. The nationality of the players at our great club is of no relevance. Get with the times.
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I have nothing against any race or creed on this earth and to suggest that or to ask if I'm racist is utterly retarded. I didnt think you would have to sink to such a ridiclous outburst just to defend your team. I didnt ever say your whole team is french I jsut said he is building a french team which could mean any number of players you currently have. If you look through your sqaud you should find the the core of it is french not english. Whats the point being an english club if you have no english players. Here is all the french players in your team

Gallas
Clichy
Daiby
Flamini
Aliadiere
Henry

And in the past you have had many french players signed. If Rafa's team starts getting up to 6 and more spanish players in his team with no english players, I would say the same. I would even go against a side fielding a team full of english players and adopting the policy of not signing or giving a forienger a chance.

The reason I feel having a team full of foreign imports is a bad idea is because its difficult for a player from a different country to understand english culture and what it means to be playing for the club. Where it is easier for the fans to identify with the player if he is a local lad. There is just that homegrown appeal where the player understands the club and culture a bit more and what it means to the fans. What I'm trying to say is that if the player is english and from the same area of his club, there is more of a connection. Also up and coming young players wont feel they have a chance in hell in making it at a club if they don't see any english players who they can identify with. Neither am I suggesting that foriegners are ruining english football or inferior in any way before you jump down my throat and accuse me of that, on the contrary I think they have helped the premierships value enormously over the years and if you look back to who the top players who have made the premiership so popular and what it is today, then you'll see most of those players are from other countries. I just don't believe fielding a full team full of foriegn players without any british talents just because you don't believe some are not as technically gifted, is the way forward.
 
I think the proper word is "prejudice" ManUtd biggest fan base is in Asia you don`t have to relate to enjoy the game.When I move to another country I adapted to the conditions of a new surrounding it`s called living it has responsibilities.Some players can cope others choose not too.Henry married English also his daughter was born there 100%.How many years do you have to live there to know the culture...my brother worked at Lockey Martin in ipswich for 5yrs.I also have a cousin who lives in cambridge since `91 they can relate but neither of them follow football so maybe that was a bad example ...shite

Maybe your point is valet:)
 
marukomu said:
How pathetic is this? So national flags are offensive? These whinging fuckers should be banned from football grounds. They're ruining the atmosphere.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_1780439,00.html

Was it Wenger complaining about those nasty foreign white flags with the red crosses on them? Joking.
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I think Wenger has complained about nearly everything. The pitch, staduim announcer, fixture list, world cup, referees, celebrations, injuries, foriegn takeovers, fans and now flags. But here is an admission that he is in fact a sore loser just like we have been saying.

Wenger: I am a bad loser

Arsene Wenger has insisted that there are no 'good losers' in top flight football.

The Arsenal boss was sent to the stands during Saturday's 2-2 draw with Portsmouth after complaining about the free-kick which led to Noe Pamarot's opener.

Wenger recently hit the headlines for his touchline bust-up with former West Ham boss Alan Pardew, and he believes he has a right to express his feelings.

"It hurts me as much as ever when we lose games and it is the same when we drop points," he explained.

"If you can introduce me to some good losers in this game, then I would like to meet them. There is no room for good losers here.

"Is it (a good loser) a guy who loses a game, goes home and does not worry overnight? I am a very bad loser then.

"If you lose a game and you feel you have conceded the first goal from a wrong free-kick then you do not have the right to say because you are seen as being a bad loser."

Dropping two points to Portsmouth left Arsenal 14 points behind leaders Manchester United but Wenger still believes his side have an outside chance of getting back into the title race.

"We are so far behind because of our bad start that you know that every point we lose now is difficult to take because we still hold the hope that we can come back," he said.

"But we should not be impatient with this team because what they show at their age is absolutely amazing.

"I feel we have to keep going and anyway there is no choice, but to keep pushing them."
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Alucard said:
I just don't believe fielding a full team full of foriegn players without any british talents just because you don't believe some are not as technically gifted, is the way forward.
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We have hardley any British Talent because they are on the whole way more expensive and they are money grabbing wee shites!

Or they are wayward or in some cases not good enough.

The basis of our team has been built from cheap foreign buys. If we would have bought the same quality of player here it would have cost twice as much!

The basis of why we are one of the top teams in the premiership at the moment is because we have invested our money (on the Whole) Wisely - (Don't start listing Flops - like Jeffers etc).

We have never been able to compete financialy with Man U and now definatley not Chelsea. Chelsea can afford to have the policy to buy the great English players because they can out bid us anytime.

Until English players reduce in price and there attitude improves. Why should we spend money on them?!

Also The way in which you try to pass your comments off as constructive criticism is funny. When You keep putting in put downs to our Players and staff then your 'constructive Criticism' is not that at all. Just admit you are trying to wind us up and accept the way we react to your posting.

You try to make it like your some fair, unbiased commentater on Arsenal. We know your not, so stop explaining yourself and trying to take the Moral high Ground.

You are Man U and we are Arsenal - We will never agree!
 
Alucard said:
I think Wenger has complained about nearly everything. The pitch, staduim announcer, fixture list, world cup, referees, celebrations, injuries, foriegn takeovers, fans and now flags. But here is an admission that he is in fact a sore loser just like we have been saying.
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Yeah and? Wenger is an honest guy, fair play to him for admitting this. I am glad he is a sore loser, it makes him even more determined to win. Oh and get yer facts right, when has he complained about flags? Yes there are being banned but thats not down to Wenger.
 
Alucard said:
I think Wenger has complained about nearly everything. The pitch, stadium announcer, fixture list, world cup, referees, celebrations, injuries, foreign takeovers, fans and now flags. But here is an admission that he is in fact a sore loser just like we have been saying.
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There is no doubt that Wenger is one of the biggest moaners in the game. But at least he isn't a bare faced liar like Mourinho. That guy is just a cheating c*nt.
 
I have to agree on the English players thing. I'm really not arsed where they're from as long as my team is winning. You may argue that it detracts from the national team, but I don't give a shit about International football - it's boring.
 
marukomu said:
I have to agree on the English players thing. I'm really not arsed where they're from as long as my team is winning. You may argue that it detracts from the national team, but I don't give a shit about International football - it's boring.
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Alucard said:
The reason I feel having a team full of foreign imports is a bad idea is because its difficult for a player from a different country to understand english culture and what it means to be playing for the club. Where it is easier for the fans to identify with the player if he is a local lad.
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What a load of shite!

What has the English culture got to do with anything? You have accepted that foreign imports have improved the game but then say they have difficulty with our culture.

We have had players like Bergkamp and Henry who have come to England and stayed for a long time. Bergkamp has had 3 kids here and now lives here 24\7 and Henry has married an English woman. These guys look after their bodies and have been model professionals. They both state they love England and will continue to live here, do these guys not understand the English way?

On the flip side we have had guys like Pennant and Jeffers who were more interested in living the high life in London, out partying etc and generally not giving 100%.

Generally young foriegn players seem to have a better attitude towards their career and are not interested in appearing in the tabloids every day coming out of night club. Plus they are way cheaper too.
 
What I love about you Alucard, is that you copy and paste stuff about Arsenal willy nilly into this thread, and I don't have to go to all these sites to read the news! Thanks! :D

Foreign imports not knowing how to play for the club? Fans finding it easier to relate to a player? What the hell are you on about!!! It’s 2006! Get a damn Atlas if you don't know where the player is from! Don't understand the culture? What does that mean? Don't understand Pie and Chips, a Bevvie before and after the game, and making numerous obscene gestures from the stands?

I couldn't give a monkeys, i'm happy and content with who plays for my club. £19 mil for Carrick, £23 mil for Rooney, £29 mil for Rio, £30 mil for Seba Veron, £30mil for Sheva, £25mil for SWP, £15mil for R. Carvalho? You can keep em.

Gone are the days of the Romford Pele, Dixon, Winterburn, Adams, Keown and Bould. We don't have the financial muscle of Glazer and Abramovich, so what does this team do? Success is paramount, and football and the televised game have opened up boundaries that were once so closed, it was in amazement that you watched teams, and countries, you've never heard before. With the global game, Arsene just did what he could to gain success - he bought from abroad - and from where he had knowledge of players. Yes, they are/were not household names, but they are more hungrier for success, and play for their team, and not having to worry about "what bird I am pictured sucking off in China White", or "what Burberry socks will go with my car interior". Give me the players who Arsene turns into household names, plus has playing skillful football. Arsenal simply can't spend to the amounts other clubs do, and 'absorb' the financial loss when the player you thought was God, ends up being a dog instead.

I second Marakomu's England remark also. Personally I couldn't give a shite about the England national team!! I love my club, and I also love watching football from different leagues. I'd much rather spend my time watching the world's best players and some of the up and coming ones playing week in, week out for their clubs in England, Spain, Italy etc. than limiting myself to watching England, and reading in the Red Tops, We're going to Win it for 66, reading what page 3 girl Player X roasted, and when is he going to release his book. It’s apparent that the coaching at grass roots is inherently lacking in this country, and we don't even have a national academy of excellence, a la Clairfontaine. Playing the fast harried hustle and bustle works for the Premiership, where skill hardly matters where the needs of the masses to see the 'best league in the world' is paramount. However, come to world competitions, and we're terribly lacking.

Can anyone really be convinced that Ashley Cole is better than Zambrotta, Zanetti or Gallas or that Rooney is better than Torres, Messi or C.Ronaldo?

It's nothing to do with epicaricacy or anything, but I just get fed up with 'experts' talking English players up or down when they quite clearly have no clue about players based outside the sceptered isle.

All the garbage simmers in the intermittent years, but then really boils over during World Cups and Euro tournaments. Along with it comes all the clichés: the French can't come from behind, the Italians don't like it up 'em blah, blah, blah. I even heard one comment during the World Cup that a certain Spanish player "will be used to playing in the heat" - he was from Galicia (the Iberian equivalent of Manchester).

Ignorance and xenophobia is rife in the country - like it or not. It emanates from the Media, and perforates down to the Neanderthals who post excrement like, "yeah, I can't relate to him, he has a long name..... Let’s call him Trev...” Imbeciles!

English players, overhyped and mostly shite.
 
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