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"It is not only 80 silly people who have stopped Italian Football" - LOL
actually they weren't 80..... they were 39, mate :mrgreen:
they (and that's a fact) stopped football in italy last week.
but this is not the problem, of course. the problem is that those 39 silly idiots just underlined a wider situation, that involve a lot of italians supporters groups..... (i'd say that involves the whole society, as it's not just a supporters problem) ......this looks quite obvious to me..... but according to your statement, is not useless to write it.
burying your head in the sand will not make the problem go-away
have u been asleep the whole last week?. a thousands millions industry (that gives work to a lot of people) stopped last week.
The italian federation said that the stop caused a economical damage of 240 millions euros..... 240 millions euros "burned". each newspaper has an article in first page about the italian football crisis since saturday morning.....2 decrees and 3 laws have been approved in 3 days..... 39 people arrested in 4 days....... how can u say that we're burying our heads in the sand??? :shock:
The fact is that Italian Football is percieved, by Europe and people with at least half a brain - for anybody who can read between the lines....
i don't wanna underestimate your "perceptions" mate, but them (your perceptions) are our last worry, at the moment
-has been corrupt for decades
then u must have some evidences that our courts don't have.... coz we found evidences of corruption for the last 2 years :mrgreen: .
of course this doesn't change the situation... (1 year, 2 years, "decades".... in any case it's disgusting), but just a few posts ago we were talking about how useless is talking by generalizations, so i think u should inform yourself better, before expriming yourself
everyone one thinks this but no-one will say this
45 civil trials and 160 criminal trials......isn't this enough for u :mrgreen:
one of the reasons why i'm proud to live in italy is that here, if u do something wrong, sooner or later, it will come out...... and this doesn't happens everywhere.....
moreover, if "no one will say this"....... what are we talking about right now?....... what about this thread?......... finally, if no one will say it, how do u know it? do u think it's just your "perception"....... i'd say that u know this cause
all the newspapers in the world are actually saying this, don't u think? :lol:
-the problems (hooligans etc.) have been actively ignored by the clubs because they only care about tickets for matches which have been decreasing over the last decade)
once again, mate: get some informations before talking. the real problem (and if u would have read this thread before posting u would already know it, as we wrote it almost a thousand times) is that our clubs can't do anything. our clubs aren't the owners of our stadia so they can't take care of the security..... that's the problem. the responsibles of this situation are our governments (this and the previous ones), are our police forces.
-Little action over player/fans fascist/extremsim banners/chants
ever heard about expression liberty???? those banners may appear disgusting (and they actually do), but i'm proud of living in a country where even those bastards fascist idiots can express their (disgusting) opinions. this means that i live in a civil country, in a country where expriming your views (no matter how stupid they are) is not a crime...... and if u can't understand this by yourself, mate, well i cant help u.
moreover, do u think that u live in an utopic community with no fascist, no nazi, no anarchists??? really do u?:lmao:
the only difference is that in england u're not allowed to bring banners at the stadium, that's all.
here in italy we can, and it's a nice thing cause i can see a lot of great, funny or hilarious banners each week.
of course even an idiot fascist has the same right. so it happens that u can see an idiot carrying a sheet with horrible fascist phrases...... but believe me mate, i don't care, as i already know that here in italy (like everywhere in the world) there are idiots, fascist or anarchists...... i don't need to see a banner to understand this. And i know that when i see a fascist banner in a stadium, this doesn't means that 50 thousand people in that stadium are fascist..... it's just a couple of idiots.... and i can say his cause the extreme right party took just a miserable 0.4% at the last elections....
... once again, if u can't understand this, then i can't help u :roll:
-The TOTAL lack of control by The ITALIAN FA - emphasised when fans allowed back in to San Siro.
still you're showing that u don't know what you're talking about......
1- is not the italian FA that decides wich stadia can stay opened to the crowd...... we are a constitutional repubblic, so this is a dept. of internal affairs duty.
2- when inter and milan understood that san siro would have been closed, they hired almost 80 speciallists who worked day and night for 2 days and 3 nights. this way they managed to do acquit all the pisanu act requirements. that's the reason why, in the end, San Siro was opened
i'd like to underline that San Siro, that wasn't ready according to the pisano act (till 7 hours before sunday match), still was (before the upgrade) a 5 stars (the highest quality) stadium, according to the uefa security parameters..... i think this says it all (about the San Siro situation, and about the severity of the pisano act requirements).
u'd better not mate, according to what u wrote till now..... or at least, inform youself, and then come back with some interesting and agreable statement
lo zio, keep posting news as it happens my friend, these are important issues.
@ Ad16: i will, mate
