Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)
But still the textures are hardly next-gen and the pitch turfs and colours could be easily beaten by any patchmaker....
Sorry, but the patches I've seen for the PS2 in particular despite getting rid of the changing grass in the distance, alot of the grass is far too green. I love what the patch makers do, but they are often not too subtle on the grass colour.
The new grass textures look alot better (the close up of Raul) and are alot more realistic in colour.
The grass doesnt need to be longer either, most good pitches look like carpets! Unless you get the camera on the mud, that would be the only real time you'll see blades of long grass. The ball wouldnt glide otherwise. The basball game on the US PS3 store shows this well, smooth pitch, when camera on mud, blades are shown.
Crowds are an interesting one. They are very dificult, most of the time the studios rip a small section of crowd and duplicate it onto large polygons, so that one poly with one texture will cover a hundred seats, this is so there arent many polygons in the crowd (because drawing, calculating or texturing 80,000 reasonably close background non player characters would be impossible and a huge waste of time). I dont expect the next gen to do anything other than making the polygons smaller and the textures more detailed, at most make a few rows of poly people or limiting the close camera shots of the crowd. The effect of a crowd can be seen on the wide shots on PS2, how much slower does it get?? The player wants to see more but the PS2 cant handle the extra processing. It even suffers with just too many players in the box, when this happens the detail of the crowd plays little importance.
What annoys me is that people (not you directly knight) are prefering style (graphics) over substance (gameplay), they want licences and real teams. Just get the gameplay and AI right and the game (most important part) will continue to give after the glitsy graphics and copyrighted names have stopped amazing you.
