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WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread

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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

At least FIFA isnt all cartoony with stupid looking facial expressions.... I dont care if they run like monkees
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Fifa doesn't look anywhere near as good as those screenshots though
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

jeblo05 said:
Quick overview (for moaners):
- no new features are mentioned.
- it's the same as the last 6 PES games, but better

Overview:

- they played 360 ("microsofts pitch") and PS2 version
- PC should be the same as PS3/360, incl. editor
- graphical "evolution", not "revolution"
- Beta stutters on PC (still beta!!!), supporters are not finalized yet
- better AI ("lost the first 2 games on 3 star")
- ball is heavier -> better shooting (long range)
- in-game sound improved
- more focus on 1-1 situations/duels in midfield
- strengh/technique of a player has more influence (-> easier to keep the ball with a strong player, easier to dribble/feint with a skilled player)
- good/spectacular keepers (one-handed saves)
- diving is working well (they didn't manage to get a penalty yet, CPU uses diving in ML, but gets punished most times)
- PS2 version is different: more stadiums, better training modes, community modes
- replays can be saved on all plattforms
- ML didn't change, just pimped up..

Editor's comment:
- they were critical due to the lack of "new features", but the gameplay is even more addictive
- the gameplay feels much more random/natural/less scripted
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Sounds all good for me.
(The bold part is exactly what I meant.)
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

True EA do need to make them look less zombified and sort out the lighting fx but I hate the cartoony look of PES which a lot of people are saying is amazing....
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

NickSCFC said:
Or that compared to PES it plays like a sloth?
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sloth which is improving all the time or the same AI Bullshit cheating me out of games and stiff robotic player movements? which would I prefer?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

PES 2008 doesn't have stiff robotic movements like PES6, as for AI cheating you then you must be crap at games and have to resort to playing FIFA because it's slow and easy.

I'll give FIFA one thing though, that pic of Ronaldinho looks amazing, the graphics are miles ahead of PES, and we know the sound and presentation will be too.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Nick im sick of people telling me im crap.I can win like most people on Top Player. What I dont like is all of a sudden my players are on good form arrows, decent amount of stamina and energy and playing well and then all of a sudden the CPU seems to go mental and my players cant pass the ball to each other for shit and also the CPU's players all become Ronaldinho with a rocket up his arse!
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Actually for me a Demo cant come soon enough.... or the game whichever Konami lets us have 1st.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

FIFA08 soundtrack listing :

- Cranberries (Zombie)
- Rob Zombie (unknow the title)
- Black Eyed Peas (Monkey Businees)
- Artic Monkeys (unknow the title)
- Robbie Williams (Me and my monkey)
- Foo Fighters (Monkey Wrench)
- Pixies (Monkey gone to heaven)
- Peter Gabriel (Shock the monkey)
- Scissor Sisters (Mankey Baby)
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

its official - ML did not change!
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

djdoc said:
Actually for me a Demo cant come soon enough.... or the game whichever Konami lets us have 1st.
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Eh? I thought you'd made your mind up about the game already! You don't like the cartoon graphics, you don't like the CPU cheating, you don't like the robotic player movements etc And yet you'd be quite happy to buy it? O...k....
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Tank0r said:
its official - ML did not change!
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Really? Where did you get that official info? Just visited the German Konami-site but no news about that overthere.
URL please :)
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Uhm evolution not revolution........after 18 months i expected something new, am i the only one who has the feeling of being too familiar with the gameplay and overall feeling??? It is getting dull over the years. Another year of tweaks here and there and animations??? What's that thing about bad frame rate, ffs it is august, it should be solid by now.

I thought they would come up with something new.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

I just hope this game reaches it's evolution peak before I meet my maker.

Until then, I will enjoy each game to it's fullest.

Peace!
;-)
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

The_Knight said:
Sounds all good for me.
(The bold part is exactly what I meant.)
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nice post






the name of the game is Pro Evolution Soccer not Pro Revolution soccer.
Next-gen games are simly next gen gemes.!
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Han said:
Really? Where did you get that official info? Just visited the German Konami-site but no news about that overthere.
URL please :)
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I got it from todays preview at 4players.de

the played the 360 version and confirmed that nothing did change. and dont tell me it will change because its a beta - rofl
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

charlievolano said:
Uhm evolution not revolution........after 18 months i expected something new, am i the only one who has the feeling of being too familiar with the gameplay and overall feeling??? It is getting dull over the years. Another year of tweaks here and there and animations??? What's that thing about bad frame rate, ffs it is august, it should be solid by now.

I thought they would come up with something new.
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Try NBA2k8, it think it will be totally different, including next gen eye-candy...

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sorry couldn't resist.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

twoodster said:
Eh? I thought you'd made your mind up about the game already! You don't like the cartoon graphics, you don't like the CPU cheating, you don't like the robotic player movements etc And yet you'd be quite happy to buy it? O...k....
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Ive also said im willing to try out this NEW game PES 2008.... Ive commented on PES6 in terms of AI. Im hoping this Team Vision stuff removes all the bullshit deflections and CPU players becoming Ronaldinho. Im always willing to give any game a chance hence why I got into FIFA 07 Next Gen.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Tank0r said:
I got it from todays preview at 4players.de

the played the 360 version and confirmed that nothing did change. and dont tell me it will change because its a beta - rofl
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Not entirely true. I have heared that the PS3- beta has more options and somebody ( I guess ThomasGoal ) said there is an addition to build your own stadium in the ML. So that is a change ;)
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

charlievolano;1062745 Acuatlly nba2k7 it is probably the best sport game out there.[/QUOTE said:
I never said it isn't !
But in terms of football games Komani still is the one to choose.

But it's an interesting idea, 2k Sports to create a football ("soccer") game
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

ThomasGOAL said:
FIFA08 soundtrack listing :

- Cranberries (Zombie)
- Rob Zombie (unknow the title)
- Black Eyed Peas (Monkey Businees)
- Artic Monkeys (unknow the title)
- Robbie Williams (Me and my monkey)
- Foo Fighters (Monkey Wrench)
- Pixies (Monkey gone to heaven)
- Peter Gabriel (Shock the monkey)
- Scissor Sisters (Mankey Baby)
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PES2008 soundtrack listing :

- Stevie Nicks (Nothing Ever Changes)
- Tyler Hilton (It's Always The Same)
- Sugababes (Ugly)
- Blink 182 (Boring)
- Herman's Hermits (Just A Little Bit Better)
- Penetration (I Thought You Were Different)
- UB40 (As Always You Were Wrong Again)
- Willie Nelson (Nothing's Changed, Nothing's New)
- Usher (Sweet Lies)

Sorry, but I fucking hate fanboys.
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

It's an evolution because they are the same graphics with new textures. A revolution would simply mean new graphics.
Just like FIFA needs to dump and remap its gameplay, PES needs to dump its graphics engine and rewrite for next-gen.

Until they completely dump the cartoony look, there will always be a huge graphical gap between reality and FIFA on one hand, and PES's "next-gen" on the other.



I've just noticed that the grass's green is reflecting on Fifa's ball. Next-gen graphics. There is current-gen, and then there is next-gen.
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Han said:
Not entirely true. I have heared that the PS3- beta has more options and somebody ( I guess ThomasGoal ) said there is an addition to build your own stadium in the ML. So that is a change ;)
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Xbox 360 and PS3 will have the same versions.
 
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