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WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread

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The_Knight said:
Thanks I see ur point.

However, the "pre-beta" issue begs the same question: Why oh why should they release photos that are much more inferior to the actual game they have? Why?

Till someone comes up with a reasonable answer to that, I believe these screens are the final version of at least 2 platforms.
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Mate it all comes to down to pics going through official clearing etc. It takes time. The guy from Konami went into it, saying its all company standard in terms of each pic getting approved by the team in Tokyo to be shown off. It gets passed from each authorising department to the next. The process can drag on for quite a while, therefore they had to get everything authorised early to have the pics ready. Hence it being taken from an earlier build.

Its really all trivial, but thats a brief insight into what goes on in all games companies before pics are released. Im not sure why so many people are surprised, its common practice. Im sure many shots have been released of a game, and you hear developers and journalists say a few days later 'You should see the how the game looks now' etc.
 
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Haven't heard anyone from Koanmi or anything say the game looks better now, just that wait til we see it in motion.

I reckon as they've done nothing to the graphics, we're in for a big shock animation-wise, I reckon they've gotten rid of all the robotic animation, you can tell just by looking at the player stances in the pics, they looks more floppy and casual, instead of how in PES6 they looked so tense.
 
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NickSCFC said:
Haven't heard anyone from Konami or anything say the game looks better now, just that wait til we see it in motion.
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Well they've told me plenty of times.
 
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Since nothing much is happening today, i'll call it a night hoping tomorrow is a better day. Good night folks and catch yous on better times ;)
 
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Yes, what else can Adonis say? He hears from his cantact that it looks significantly better when playing even on an early beta-version. It's just a matter of trust in his contact.
To be honest, the continuos complaining about the pictures doesn't do this topic good. What can we do about it? One side says it's bad and the other side says we have to wait and see. It's a stalemate-situation...
 
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there will be sweat patches on the shirts but will you see sweat on more peoples faces?

peace out people see ya 2moro
 
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Maybe not, but with camera on wide I don't care :)
 
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I'd take animations over graphics any day... it's just that graphics r really easy to change... and all these years...hmph..

Let's see...

I was at the computer mall today, and I saw someone play C&C3 on a monster monitor, showing off the new 8800 ULTRA.... I was speechless.

Now I don't know should I wait and get a new DirectX10 Laptop or a monster 8800 Desktop...
 
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Badgerman said:
In a mater of days I've gone from admiring this community to hatng it.

I wish Konami never released those screenshots just for all the hissyfits that it has brought on.

I hope you all die (apart from about 6 of you)

sincerely

badgerman esq
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LOL.
 
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they have to reveal the game
i cant wait till saturday
 
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Greetings from Australia to everyone at evo-web.

First off, I have been playing and following PES/WE since the early days since my first trip to Europe where i played it in a cafe, and like most of you I have become familiar with the whole look and feel of the game. Last years effort however was a huge shock to me as it was far worst than any other new version released. Not only was it 1/4 finished, but it was a huge let down visually and in gameplay. Yeah I know it was quarter finished, but why release something thats not fully cooked. it just doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. I know microsoft paid them to do it quickly, but still...konami have lost so much creditability because of it.

Anyway, the point i wanted to highlight in this post is konami's other sports game that has just recently been released on the PS3, which many people have not heard about or played. Its a baseball game with a simialr look and feel of pes but obviously with bats and crazy little baseball buggys. Ive just bought this game and it seriously blew me away. Its so much fun, even tho its entirely in Japanese. Not only is the gameplay perfect but visually it makes the 360 pes6 version look laughable. The makers of this game obviously must have some contact and work in conjunction with the WE team cause its one organisation of konami. This is why iam a little confused about everyone doubting the new pes2008 coming out. It will be something special this time, and not be a half assed, unfinished, unfamilar looking pes to the one that was relased last year.

Here are some pictures of the baseball game released on the PS3 by konami. Straight away you can see the difference in facial detail.Which makes you think, why would konami release that image of the random bloke with the microphones in his face when his face looks so lifeless and so 360ish. Surely konami's final release will have players looking more like this?

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hideo said:
2006 Tekken 6 ps3
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2007 Tekken 6 ps3
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I don't say that it is the same thing but this is maybe an answer to your question.:)
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Namco actually said those first screenshots were not from Tekken 6, they were a tech demo. The second set are from the actual game which was made from scratch.
 
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chookaldinho said:
Greetings from Australia to everyone at evo-web.

First off, I have been playing and following PES/WE since the early days since my first trip to Europe where i played it in a cafe, and like most of you I have become familiar with the whole look and feel of the game. Last years effort however was a huge shock to me as it was far worst than any other new version released. Not only was it 1/4 finished, but it was a huge let down visually and in gameplay. Yeah I know it was quarter finished, but why release something thats not fully cooked. it just doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. I know microsoft paid them to do it quickly, but still...konami have lost so much creditability because of it.

Anyway, the point i wanted to highlight in this post is konami's other sports game that has just recently been released on the PS3, which many people have not heard about or played. Its a baseball game with a simialr look and feel of pes but obviously with bats and crazy little baseball buggys. Ive just bought this game and it seriously blew me away. Its so much fun, even tho its entirely in Japanese. Not only is the gameplay perfect but visually it makes the 360 pes6 version look laughable. The makers of this game obviously must have some contact and work in conjunction with the WE team cause its one organisation of konami. This is why iam a little confused about everyone doubting the new pes2008 coming out. It will be something special this time, and not be a half assed, unfinished, unfamilar looking pes to the one that was relased last year.

Here are some pictures of the baseball game released on the PS3 by konami. Straight away you can see the difference in facial detail.Which makes you think, why would konami release that image of the random bloke with the microphones in his face when his face looks so lifeless and so 360ish. Surely konami's final release will have players looking more like this?

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/786/786308/pro-yakyuu-spirits-4-20070508043252066.jpg
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/786/786308/pro-yakyuu-spirits-4-20070508043240019.jpg
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/786/786308/pro-yakyuu-spirits-4-20070508043241519.jpg
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/786/786308/pro-yakyuu-spirits-4-20070508043255066.jpg
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If I get my hopes up, its all your fault. :lol:
 
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chookaldinho said:
lol. i think those pics i posted above are what we all expected the first screenshots of pes2008 to look like.
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Well, they do prove that some part of KONAMI have done great with graphics. I just hope that the different teams within the company are closely cooperating, so that there isn't competition or such that would make them want to keep stuff to themselves.

But, nice anyways. :)
 
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hahahaha....if PES:2008 have those graphics....i'll fly to tokyo and kiss seabass!! LOL j/k j/k

but again, with 22 players on the pitch, it's harder to make such graphics....NBA only has 10, baseball....15?? so its different....but really gets ppls hopes up!
 
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what you say is true but if you want to talk along those lines the how about those madden graphics, they are awesome and there are more people on screen.
 
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ss4_goku said:
hahahaha....if PES:2008 have those graphics....i'll fly to tokyo and kiss seabass!! LOL j/k j/k

but again, with 22 players on the pitch, it's harder to make such graphics....NBA only has 10, baseball....15?? so its different....but really gets ppls hopes up!
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That's because FIFA 07 looks so good, you can even see the pores on their skin.
 
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chookaldinho said:
Greetings from Australia to everyone at evo-web.

First off, I have been playing and following PES/WE since the early days since my first trip to Europe where i played it in a cafe, and like most of you I have become familiar with the whole look and feel of the game. Last years effort however was a huge shock to me as it was far worst than any other new version released. Not only was it 1/4 finished, but it was a huge let down visually and in gameplay. Yeah I know it was quarter finished, but why release something thats not fully cooked. it just doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. I know microsoft paid them to do it quickly, but still...konami have lost so much creditability because of it.

Anyway, the point i wanted to highlight in this post is konami's other sports game that has just recently been released on the PS3, which many people have not heard about or played. Its a baseball game with a simialr look and feel of pes but obviously with bats and crazy little baseball buggys. Ive just bought this game and it seriously blew me away. Its so much fun, even tho its entirely in Japanese. Not only is the gameplay perfect but visually it makes the 360 pes6 version look laughable. The makers of this game obviously must have some contact and work in conjunction with the WE team cause its one organisation of konami. This is why iam a little confused about everyone doubting the new pes2008 coming out. It will be something special this time, and not be a half assed, unfinished, unfamilar looking pes to the one that was relased last year.

Here are some pictures of the baseball game released on the PS3 by konami. Straight away you can see the difference in facial detail.Which makes you think, why would konami release that image of the random bloke with the microphones in his face when his face looks so lifeless and so 360ish. Surely konami's final release will have players looking more like this?

pro-yakyuu-spirits-4-20070508043252066.jpg

pro-yakyuu-spirits-4-20070508043240019.jpg

pro-yakyuu-spirits-4-20070508043241519.jpg

pro-yakyuu-spirits-4-20070508043255066.jpg
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Goodmorning. Speechless. All i can do is..
:shock: :shock: :shock: :eek: :eek: :eek: :cry: :cry: :big grin: :big grin: [-o<
 
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if WE11 have those graphics, Konami must be implementing the new Blu-ray technology of the PS3.
 
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3 days since the first few infos. I want more, now. Hopefully on saturday they will reveal WE along with a video. But then again the first video is usually the intro and no gameplay.

After all those years of heartache and pain Konami could really surprise us and release in in september worldwide. Weeks before FIFA, fcuk you EA.
 
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shit, i say, go back to the original japanese name. Winning Eleven!

ps-don't you brits and the rest of the world call the beautiful game football? then why on earth is the folks over at Konami UK calling it Pro Evolution Soccer?
 
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That´s true. It´s even more surprising as the first game came out in USA 2 years ago (correct me if I´m wrong)? But I´m used to it now anyway. Pro Evolution Football? Would work though.
 
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its a japanese company plus Pro Evolution Football looks awkward doesn't it?
 
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Just Call it Winning Eleven 2008! sounds much better than Pro Evolution Soccer!
 
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tobi said:
its a japanese company plus Pro Evolution Football looks awkward doesn't it?
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Nah. We just got used to that stupid soccer name. What the hell does soccer mean anyway? Atleast Football has a real meaning to it.
 
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