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WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread

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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

That Kingdom Football looks nice, but doesnt even come close to the PES, but still better than Fifa from what I saw, but keepers are retards and def. AI reminds in some way PES6.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

did you see that goal on football kingdom at 3.30?
looks like the goal bergkamp scored against argentina at the world cup !!( not exactly..but the crosspass is great !)
( http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=8dcvciKaoPA&mode=related&search= )
holy crap :P

but on topic.. still waiting for a video and hoping that it confirms all the speculations.
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

winston said:
The real truth is that it is completely subjective.

I am certain that, as is the case every year, when we, the forum members, all finally play PES2008, there will be some people ecstatic with it, and others will be deeply disappointed. Everyone's opinion is equally valid and it's pretty clear from the range of reviews published so far, this game is not going to blow away the doubters like myself.
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I for a change do agree with you.
I can even tell you who will be deeply disappointed: You, Jack Bauer, like those ;)
Always the same!
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

seeing that video made me cry a little that I dont have that and my ps2 any mire was such a great game. The colours were fantastic made me feel like i was watching the copa america. And those nets ooohhh..... how i miss them so
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

Ive always liked the graphics of football kingdom,

Ive never played it, but from looking at the videos - it looks a little too easy to score - I mean a lot of them goals were all scored with the power bar on full
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

Plays well though, has a good flowing feel, still reckon it's better than the latest EA efforts.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

damnn what kinda game is that
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

It seems we've been given a lot more info recently.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

how come we r guranteed a vid next week?

off topic: can someone tell me where can i find the song ... take me home untied road the song not the chant 10x in advance
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

brokensail said:
I think Football Kingdom is an awful game..
Not realistic and so easy..
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yep... is to arcading gameplay. But is like PES in someting elements... PES is 10 class more this stupit game ;)
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

I've never heard about this Football Kingdom game...

It looks a lot like PES and plays a bit (but much better) like FIFA. So they managed to mix up the 2 weak sides of both games into 1 game :)
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

How can people say PES is better than football kingdom?

Sure it has more depth etc, but the creative freedom in football kingdom is awesome.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

exactly kevano it was a fantastic game and again even better when played 2 player
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

I cant even play pro evo 6 without turning it off in frustration after all of 5 minutes. Its not fun. Its dull, boring, slow, sluggish movement bores and frustrates me. The new PES better be something else other wise the series will never come back from it.

Infact, when I get home from my gf's i'm going to dig out my copy of football kingdom and play it all night because some of the stuff you can do is amazing.

Why cant the new PES bring this level of freedom into a game? Its next-gen for christ sake.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

ThomasGOAL said:
Just for stop the free critics

one of my contact play the game and i just can says that from him "I never see a PES at this level of realism, finish run, dribbles or shoots scripted, it's real football"

I can't says more
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If your contact works for Konami I see a slight conflict of interest in his statement (and tell him that contrary to what is said on the back of the game I haven't been able to play a game from my pc with people with playstation 2).

If he is a well known gamer journalist that does not give 10 to every pes game like tom bramwell from eurogamer then it is very good news.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

charlievolano said:
If your contact works for Konami I see a slight conflict of interest in his statement (and tell him that contrary to what is said on the back of the game I haven't been able to play a game from my pc with people with playstation 2).

If he is a well known gamer journalist that does not give 10 to every pes game like tom bramwell from eurogamer then it is very good news.
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My contact don't work for Konami no gamer journalist too, just one of biggest fan of the serie and try the game during 4 full days (no 3 hours like press) at the moment on a better version than the press one.
i can't says more about that
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

Thomas, my post wasnt totally off topic...

Why cant a next gen football game bring the level of freedom that Football Kingdom did a few years ago?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

Why cant a next gen football game bring the level of freedom that Football Kingdom did a few years ago?
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Indeed, the manual passing on FK makes PES look so scripted and artificial.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

your contact, is he one of the famous french players??? :D smain, droodie, harry, spank, hs, zebre??? :D
 
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bbc.alster said:
your contact, is he one of the famous french players??? :D smain, droodie, harry, spank, hs, zebre??? :D
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never heard of those players.

i have heard of a famous player called zidane though.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

hazza10 said:
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here is a pic of football kingdom u can see how the nets just droop.
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which console was football kingdom on? Was it any good?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

ThomasGOAL said:
My contact don't work for Konami no gamer journalist too, just one of biggest fan of the serie and try the game during 4 full days (no 3 hours like press) at the moment on a better version than the press one.
i can't says more about that
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See that's my problem, I like having reviews and opinion from people with a critical attidute, someone in love with series who spend most of his jerky days playing the game is biased in my opinion.

So can we get some info??

Manual passing?? Ball physics?? Balanced defense??? Not scripted deflections??? More intelligent moves?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

charlievolano said:
See that's my problem, I like having reviews and opinion from people with a critical attidute, someone in love with series who spend most of his jerky days playing the game is biased in my opinion.

So can we get some info??

Manual passing?? Ball physics?? Balanced defense??? Not scripted deflections??? More intelligent moves?
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I can't speak about that ;)
no need to ask
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

So i assume it is just BS to show off. U probably don't have any news.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 07/27/07)

People with contacts who won't actually tell us anything useful gets on my nerves..anyone can make up an imaginary contact and say the game is either going to be good or bad. At least with Jack Bauer's contact he gave a pretty detailed report including impressions and actual information about the game.

If your "contacts" are tied up by NDA's and can't actually contribute any information other than a subjective one liner, what is the actual point of sharing it other than to show off?
 
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