joostebrood said:
No Don, van Basten looks at other things than just football qualities. This team is willing to work for each other. He has clearly decided Robben, RVN and VDV are the star players. The rest of the team plays for them. Van Bommel clearly isn't capable of doing that. Makaay is one of my favorite strikers, but he's not ideal for the Dutch team. I can understand every decision van Basten made so far. He also looks at social characteristics. What's a player like in a group? Does he pick his friends or is he just cool with everybody? This whole thing is based on teambuilding. Trust me, van Basten's choises are great and well thought. A bit risky since everyone will use this against him when they lose a game, but his experiences as a player have taught him that only real, hardowrking teams win prices.
VDV is clearly in an amazing form and Robben has made his position his own, that's clear. Though I do not agree (with Van Basten) about RVN, Makaay to me is the best Dutch finisher out there. Hell, he might be THE best finisher out there. How can someone like him not be ideal for the team? I don't buy any of this- "he's a 4-4-2 type of striker". He won the golden ball for Deportivo playing as a lone striker in a 4-5-1 system. He should be able to play as a lone striker in 4-3-3, which doesn't differ that much from 4-5-1 anyhow. Also i've never heard of him being a trouble maker or anything of the kind, quite the opposite really. Teambuilding? How can a striker like him be anything but inspirational for young players?
Van Bommel, best eredivisie player of 04/05. Hardworking, can pass, can shoot, defend, annoy the opponent and be a leader. I can't see what's so clear about that not being for the good of the team? Even if he isn't friendly in training against he collegues, it'd be highly childish to throw Van Bommel off the team for that. Ditto for Seedorf, though he is a different case altogether.
I don't feel many will use his 'risky' policy against him, when he loses. Van Basten has an incredible amount of credit.
I agree that he's doing a good job with building a real 'team' and his play seems effective, often opposite of the 'typical' ineffective Dutch 'attractive'(what's attractive anyway; all in the eye of the beholder) football played in the past. All good things.
I can't help but be annoyed by his stubborness though. And this 'we should alwas play the 4-3-3' madness, our entire country seems to have.. IF we would have better players for a 4-4-2 system, why the hell shouldn't we try that?!
joostebrood said:
edit: natuurlijk speelt Kuijt, er spelen alleen maar spelers die snel kunnen omschakelen. Het zal mij trouwens niet verbazen als van Persie speelt op het WK. Dit team staat als een huis. Geluk dwing je af en ze zijn dodelijk voor de goal van de tegenstander.
Van Persie op rechts, gatverdamme. Dan zelfs nog liever Kuijt.
Wat dacht je van Van Galen op die positie?
PS Nice discussion.
Thought they'll do okay with Sissoko and Kanoute :eh:
