The Retro-PES Corner

[Komorizaki]

Hello friends, I hope you're all well. For those interested in PES 2013, this thread contains some links. I hope you enjoy the game. Cheers.

https://evoweb.uk/threads/pes-2013-pc-iso-official-updates-and-patches-2025.102562/

 

[KayNiew]

Hi fellow Nostalgic gamers!

I created my own YouTube channel with PES games. I love the old games with that nostalgic feeling. PES 5 is my all time favorite!
Would you check it out? That would be nice! You only have to follow when you really love it. I post shorts/video's and all kind of other PES games from way back!

 

[Yurec]

PES5 and WE9 LE are the best old gen PES versions by far, but unfortunately they are both lacking in AI upgrade and AI is just too weak to play against experienced player who is playing the game for 15+ years.

For this case there is Wining Eleven 9 International
It's like pes6 only on pes5 engine. The most balanced football. And in defense you will not be allowed to score just like that, but you will also get responses in attack. This is not a one-sided game. For my twenty years of experience, it is still interesting to play. I can also lose 1 4, and 0 3. So not everything is so sad, but it is WE9.
I specifically checked all three versions, recorded statistics, and the most equal games and aggressive AI were in the WE9i version. I agree with you here PES 5 and WE9LE are very weak in attack.

 

[Madmac79]

PES 5 has such nice close control dribbling animations (the strafe movement as the ball is rolling which isn’t in PES 6) and ball physics for ground and dinked passes, compared to PES 6 which does feel more of a reversion. You also notice a strong foot plant when the player takes a first touch. PES 4 actually feels very fluid which in hindsight makes it feel the most PS3-like, almost as if there’s 360 turning, but is slightly too fast and the shooting is awkward. 5>4>6

Yeah, I've always found Pes 5/WE 9 games unparalleled as a "base", at least among PS2 ones. Not only what you said about dribbling, that I 100% agree, but defenders used more often more tackles/were stronger (they definitely nerfed them to the ground from WE 10 onwards) and the abundance of fouls, while maybe annoying sometimes, provides that when you scored with some nice prolonged dribbling it felt really rewarding. I also find keepers better as well (except from the known bug in which sometimes they remain immobile from middle distance, one vs one shooting, the keepers post rework from, again, WE 10 onwards felt more "free" but also more beatable to me, although I think they improved them in later PS2 chapters like 08 etc)

Irony wanted that it's also the chapter with the worse AI in possession by very, very far.. man, what I'd pay to have someone implement on it some of the better Cpu of the other PS2 Pes. Would probably be among my biggest football gaming dreams.

 

[Xkapt]

For this case there is Wining Eleven 9 International
It's like pes6 only on pes5 engine. The most balanced football. And in defense you will not be allowed to score just like that, but you will also get responses in attack. This is not a one-sided game. For my twenty years of experience, it is still interesting to play. I can also lose 1 4, and 0 3. So not everything is so sad, but it is WE9.
I specifically checked all three versions, recorded statistics, and the most equal games and aggressive AI were in the WE9i version. I agree with you here PES 5 and WE9LE are very weak in attack.

I saw a few comments about we9i's attacking AI being better than PES5, so I immediately tried it. Unfortunately, I didn't notice much. What differences can you detect?

 

[millossobek]

Yeah, I've always found Pes 5/WE 9 games unparalleled as a "base", at least among PS2 ones. Not only what you said about dribbling, that I 100% agree, but defenders used more often more tackles/were stronger (they definitely nerfed them to the ground from WE 10 onwards) and the abundance of fouls, while maybe annoying sometimes, provides that when you scored with some nice prolonged dribbling it felt really rewarding. I also find keepers better as well (except from the known bug in which sometimes they remain immobile from middle distance, one vs one shooting, the keepers post rework from, again, WE 10 onwards felt more "free" but also more beatable to me, although I think they improved them in later PS2 chapters like 08 etc)

Irony wanted that it's also the chapter with the worse AI in possession by very, very far.. man, what I'd pay to have someone implement on it some of the better Cpu of the other PS2 Pes. Would probably be among my biggest football gaming dreams.

Hey man! Your comment about the PES 5 AI Possession reminded me of this thread by @elaf!

I haven't tested it yet, but still looks like a useful tool to improve the PES 5 AI! (there are many different versions inside, but I think the latest one is the recommended one!