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@Munckeyz ,
Editors created by @marqisspes6 for Jap' games allow to export spreadsheets with stats if it can help.

For the fake names, have you tried googling the fake japanese name (with Japanese symboles) ? It may lead you to a web-page documenting the fake/real names mapping you can translate with your browser.
 
Google translation is okay to convert proper names in roman characters.

Now about fakes names, there's a lot of jap websites for Clubs, I'm also very used to search all players from every countries even Oman or Lebanon NT.

The trick is to found the date they started to play : when it's a playable team it's corresponding for example is the game is out in april 2008 to September-December 2008.
Now, if it's a hidden team from a qualification stage.
Example for PES 2008 it correspond to 2005-2006 rosters as the qualifications for Asia or WC started there. Also, if you see 180cm 80kg or 175cm 75kg for asian : it's often a "by default" value when there's no information about the player in question.

i planned to do it for WE 2008 but i'm on something else. For JL2008 it's easy as back numbers corresponds to all 2007-2008 AFC rosters when they started.
Not hurry to search it as it needs one afternoon to correct them.
It's quite simple if you open and decrypt in hexadecimal once you understood lines about players, just to correct names : you can copy paste a whole team over PES United or any team free or not just to to check, modify if you want and re-import the player on his club or nation hidden.

About PES shop Names it's pretty easy to found by copy paste some japanese fake name and for some players and google should give you links with translated players vs fake like here : https://weaponj2007cc.ninja-web.net/r-weshop-player.html
Here's the page (in japanese) where you can found all you need about JL2007. For others version it's on the left back : up to you to navigate around all links ;)

https://weaponj2007cc.ninja-web.net/

Note : to have google results you need to copy and paste the game name in japanese characters like Jリーグ ウイニングイレブン 10 for JLWE10
or Jリーグ ウイニングイレブン 2007 クラブチャンピオンシップ for 2007

For the others 2008-2009-2010 just change the year as they share the same name. On many wiki you can found the game's original japanese names ;) )
 
NeoRetro said:
Google translation is okay to convert proper names in roman characters.

Now about fakes names, there's a lot of jap websites for Clubs, I'm also very used to search all players from every countries even Oman or Lebanon NT.

The trick is to found the date they started to play : when it's a playable team it's corresponding for example is the game is out in april 2008 to September-December 2008.
Now, if it's a hidden team from a qualification stage.
Example for PES 2008 it correspond to 2005-2006 rosters as the qualifications for Asia or WC started there. Also, if you see 180cm 80kg or 175cm 75kg for asian : it's often a "by default" value when there's no information about the player in question.

i planned to do it for WE 2008 but i'm on something else. For JL2008 it's easy as back numbers corresponds to all 2007-2008 AFC rosters when they started.
Not hurry to search it as it needs one afternoon to correct them.
It's quite simple if you open and decrypt in hexadecimal once you understood lines about players, just to correct names : you can copy paste a whole team over PES United or any team free or not just to to check, modify if you want and re-import the player on his club or nation hidden.

About PES shop Names it's pretty easy to found by copy paste some japanese fake name and for some players and google should give you links with translated players vs fake like here : https://weaponj2007cc.ninja-web.net/r-weshop-player.html
Here's the page (in japanese) where you can found all you need about JL2007. For others version it's on the left back : up to you to navigate around all links ;)

https://weaponj2007cc.ninja-web.net/

Note : to have google results you need to copy and paste the game name in japanese characters like Jリーグ ウイニングイレブン 10 for JLWE10
or Jリーグ ウイニングイレブン 2007 クラブチャンピオンシップ for 2007

For the others 2008-2009-2010 just change the year as they share the same name. On many wiki you can found the game's original japanese names ;) )
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Amazing !
 
I've already exported most of the Japanese-exclusive games, they're included in the collection of default PES stats sheets that I made. And I speak Japanese, so I'm pretty familiar with the whole thing. I know there are websites out there that have already 'cracked' which players are which, but in fact some of the websites are wrong with some of the connections they've made. Besides, it can be quite fun to find them out for yourself. :)
 
Juventino32 said:
Amazing !
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You're Welcome fratello, I also know all the players from all stars in J-league if you're interested by one game or another, not all are easy to found (France Ligue 1 all stars or Eredivisie...)

My bad too about one sentence : i wanted to say "if a game is out on april-may-june 2009, check the rosters from september to december 2008 (very often they assign the 23 players rosters from a match pretty last before mid-season.)

That's why there's often players who practically never played for their NT on the squad, like one youth take on the bench etc.
It was pretty recurrent on PS3 and PS4 versions.

I'm on PES 2021 editing right now but i found the way to assign market values for players : even "Others C" clubs could have a basic value no problem.
But i only know how to recopy them from the original player (for example on PES 5 i recopy market values from WE10 or PES6 and JL07, it's on those version i took players)

I can explain in details but it's quite boring, not complicated but long to read. After i edited i will check how do you do to settle X market values (sound a little bit complicated but i can reflect some similar players HEX value ATM)
 
Munckeyz said:
I've already exported most of the Japanese-exclusive games, they're included in the collection of default PES stats sheets that I made. And I speak Japanese, so I'm pretty familiar with the whole thing. I know there are websites out there that have already 'cracked' which players are which, but in fact some of the websites are wrong with some of the connections they've made. Besides, it can be quite fun to find them out for yourself. :)
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Yes for some players with fake names hard to found, or some preset faces numbers they mention to assign, it's quite rare but there's few mistakes or unfound data.
 
In fact, even some of the players with correct names are on the wrong teams too. Erwan Manac'h for example is in the Sochaux squad in Winning Eleven 8 despite retiring from football two years earlier. Romain Angeletti is in Nice's squad despite never having played for them (maybe like the Hatem Trabelsi/Arsenal situation in PES 4), and many games have Mehdi Pashazadeh in Iran's squad even though he hadn't played for them since 1998...
 
Munckeyz said:
In fact, even some of the players with correct names are on the wrong teams too. Erwan Manac'h for example is in the Sochaux squad in Winning Eleven 8 despite retiring from football two years earlier. Romain Angeletti is in Nice's squad despite never having played for them (maybe like the Hatem Trabelsi/Arsenal situation in PES 4), and many games have Mehdi Pashazadeh in Iran's squad even though he hadn't played for them since 1998...
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One of the biggest example is Ali Karimi : there's a player sharing the same name but not the great player from Bayern with long hair brown.
His face is totally like Ali Karimi, height and weight too, but it's the wrong one, i think it's on PES 2020 or 2021. here's the player (younger too) https://www.transfermarkt.fr/ali-karimi/profil/spieler/269393

There's often that issue with players sharing the same name.
 
Yep, one of the French teams (Toulouse I think), had a player on their books named Mathieu Zandona, a young midfielder. Presumably Konami just looked up "Zandona" and got Alessandro Zandonà, an Italian goalkeeper, who is instead represented in Toulouse's squad... I guess their research team wasn't massively thorough. :D
 
In PES 5, I also remember a Ukrainian GK of Shakthar who's normally a field player. And this was fixed in WE10.

And one player (from a Greek team if I remember well) who has Nigerian nationality in game but should be from Costa Rica (or vice versa).
 
NeoRetro said:
You're Welcome fratello, I also know all the players from all stars in J-league if you're interested by one game or another, not all are easy to found (France Ligue 1 all stars or Eredivisie...)

My bad too about one sentence : i wanted to say "if a game is out on april-may-june 2009, check the rosters from september to december 2008 (very often they assign the 23 players rosters from a match pretty last before mid-season.)

That's why there's often players who practically never played for their NT on the squad, like one youth take on the bench etc.
It was pretty recurrent on PS3 and PS4 versions.

I'm on PES 2021 editing right now but i found the way to assign market values for players : even "Others C" clubs could have a basic value no problem.
But i only know how to recopy them from the original player (for example on PES 5 i recopy market values from WE10 or PES6 and JL07, it's on those version i took players)

I can explain in details but it's quite boring, not complicated but long to read. After i edited i will check how do you do to settle X market values (sound a little bit complicated but i can reflect some similar players HEX value ATM)
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At some point I may edit JL2008 (possibly JL2007) but not sure. So in any case, if you have a doc with fake - real names mapping, I'd be interested.
 
Juventino32 said:
In PES 5, I also remember a Ukrainian GK of Shakthar who's normally a field player. And this was fixed in WE10.

And one player (from a Greek team if I remember well) who has Nigerian nationality in game but should be from Costa Rica (or vice versa).
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Yeah, the one with the goalie is quite confusing because as far as I can tell it's supposed to be Vyacheslav Shevchuk... Who was already a veteran player and had already been playing for Ukraine for a couple of years beforehand... There was a goalie named Shevchuk active at the time but he was much younger. As for the other thing, I think they somehow managed to mistake Bryan Ruiz for Haruna Babangida. Don't ask me how that works... :LOL:
 


I recently discovered that there is a Korean version of Winning Eleven 8 International, very rare, I didn't find much about it, it seems to have the same database as Liveware Evolution
 

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Munckeyz said:
Believe me it can be! Trying to trawl through any and every website, through the old Champ Manager databases trying to identify a player with a fake name... And sometimes the fake name isn't even close to their real name! But I'm getting there...
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champ manager databases you say... can you please redirect me to these please ?
 

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christ88 said:
Thanks man...

Really ?

I thought it was the best OF for PES 5 original season, without patch.

Do you have a good one with the original season?
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I also prefer a game without transfer.
In my own OFs, this is exactly what I update : the visual aspects only. What I do though is fill Other League C (in PES 6 & 2008) with other teams from other PES titles.
 
Juventino32 said:
I also prefer a game without transfer.
In my own OFs, this is exactly what I update : the visual aspects only. What I do though is fill Other League C (in PES 6 & 2008) with other teams from other PES titles.
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I think I'm in agreement with you about keeping the original lineups without the transfers although I would like to see you make your option files with a full Bundesliga in "Other League C" instead of mixed teams. That's just my personal preference though, I'm sure others like the mixed array of teams.
 
PES4eva said:
I think I'm in agreement with you about keeping the original lineups without the transfers although I would like to see you make your option files with a full Bundesliga in "Other League C" instead of mixed teams. That's just my personal preference though, I'm sure others like the mixed array of teams.
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Creating full Bundesliga would be much more complicated than what I'm doing.

Too much data is missing and personally, I don't like to create players and invent their stats. I, at some point, thought about using some converters but don't liked it then abandonned the project.

@the_dude has already created amazing files for PES 6 & PES 2008, recreating full Bundesliga. His files are the way to go to enjoy Bundesliga on PES 6 & 2008 imho.
 
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Juventino32 said:
Creating full Bundesliga would be much more complicated than what I'm doing.

Too much data is missing and personally, I don't like to create players and invent their stats. I, at some point, thought about using some converters but don't liked it then abandonned the project.

@the_dude has already created amazing files for PES 6 & PES 2008, recreating full Bundesliga. His files are the way to go to enjoy Bundesliga on PES 6 & 2008 imho.
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Like I said, it's a personal preference. I think the available default stats of the Bundesliga players would be online somewhere but if you prefer not to add that league then fair enough 👍
 
PES4eva said:
Like I said, it's a personal preference. I think the available default stats of the Bundesliga players would be online somewhere but if you prefer not to add that league then fair enough 👍
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My first choice would have been to integrate Bundesliga, but after searching, I could not find a database with all Bundesliga players data for 2006-07 and 2007-08 seasons (incl. growth type, ...). If you have a link to such a database, it'd be amazing.

I looked for the in-game players, players appearing in other games (ex. PES 4, 5 and even later versions) but there are too many missing players (especially from the promoted teams). After some research, I could see that creating the UCL 2007-08 would be feasible though, and then I decided to go that route.

This is why I also released a "zero" version of my WE2008 OF in fact, so that if someone feels he would manage to create Bundesliga, that person would not start from zero but would only have to focus on Bundesliga (or any other league). ;-)
 
I am using Pes 2013, with datapack 4.00 and OF 1.06, and I have Pes Ultimate Data Explorer 2.9.7
When I went to change club badges in PES UDE, it changed successfully, but when I opened Pes 2013, ingame it didn't change, it stayed the same default badge.
I don't know why honestly, I remember it worked before
 
Radovanovic_79 said:
I am using Pes 2013, with datapack 4.00 and OF 1.06, and I have Pes Ultimate Data Explorer 2.9.7
When I went to change club badges in PES UDE, it changed successfully, but when I opened Pes 2013, ingame it didn't change, it stayed the same default badge.
I don't know why honestly, I remember it worked before
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Somebody better help this guy, lol.

I think you should try to join this forum https://pes-edition.foroactivo.com/f1-pes-2013 to answer your pes 13 questions.
 
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