The Retro-PES Corner

[the_dude]

I've researched it for PES 6, JL 2007, PES 2008, WE 2008 and JL 2008. WE 2008 was weird, with a cut off for clubs and a different one for NT.
Let me a couple of days to find it back in one of my HDD and I'll post them.

I am editing PES 5 right now and I have been testing it. I subtract the date of birth by 2005. Konami did a terrible job.

Carlton Cole born on October 12, 1983 is 21. He lost a year.

Nemanja Vidic born on October 21, 1981 is 24. He did NOT lose a year.

Michel Salgado born on October 22, 1975 is 30. He did NOT lose a year.

Jimmy Bullard born on October 23, 1978 is 26. Lost a year

Wayne Rooney born on October 24, 1985 is 19. Lost a year.

Robert Pires born on October 29, 1973 is 32. He did NOT lose a year.

Repeat. Konami did a terrible job.

 

[Flipper the Priest]

A wee tribute to birthday boy Batigol!

 

[H_G]

It seems that the db manager for the game doesn't take in consideration the year of birth.. but the player's age when they close the db before the release, Ronney 20th birthday was after they finished working on the db.
if you compare players' age between PES6 and WE JL 2007, players have the same age.. others have +1 year

Wayne Rooney born on October 24, 1985 is 19. Lost a year.

 

[NeoRetro]

I've researched it for PES 6, JL 2007, PES 2008, WE 2008 and JL 2008. WE 2008 was weird, with a cut off for clubs and a different one for NT.
Let me a couple of days to find it back in one of my HDD and I'll post them.

@NeoRetro , this is WE 2008 that I find easier than PES 2008, not JL 2008 (which I have not played enough). To me, WE 2008 (6th difficulty, the max) is easier than PES 2008 (5th, max one). But it can really be a very personal opinion.

You make good to mention about birthday's date as i completely forgot that one got some issue with it.
Now for JL version, if i remember it's age before something like the end of transfers, 25 june i don't remember that well as i never modded or created teams on those already updated Winter rosters. But i will take a look as i want to change perhaps 3-4 clubs.

@TheDude about the birthday changes, it's not the good calculation for PS2 version, you need to check if the player is born before or after the 1st september. Now that you mention it, i will check it closely.
I've editing every players and didn't saw that much errors to be honest, with that logic i mean

Edit: but others errors in PES 5, yes that's probably the one with the most data errors on it, well PES 3 was also atrocious regarding stats for new players, probably created by europeans guys who got no idea about how to create a player in PES with logic, in comparison to WE7

PS3 versions i didn't edited those ones, not interesting as it was my second FG when Fifa bored me.... Except PES 2011, i don't know what's the "+1 years old for all players" dates.

(Edit 2 : About Jlwe2008) I would have loved to recreate Bundes over Eredivisie but i got no idea when i will found time and energy to do it. Now i got the way to get almost realistic market values so it's tempting, but just replacing the less important Swedish teams as they are a bit too many...
The reason for all those clubs was related to the Sweden federation, honored by PES team adding the (pretty small) club where Henrik Larsson was playing, got them access to new contract. Well i would keep only IFK Göteborg.

Billykong explained to me his project and i'm totally good with it for ML, As i plan to do the Big ML version with tons of clubs in D2 and 20 instead of 14 or 16 in D1.

 

[the_dude]

You make good to mention about birthday's date as i completely forgot that one got some issue with it.
Now for JL version, if i remember it's age before something like the end of transfers, 25 june i don't remember that well as i never modded or created teams on those already updated Winter rosters. But i will take a look as i want to change perhaps 3-4 clubs.

@TheDude about the birthday changes, it's not the good calculation for PS2 version, you need to check if the player is born before or after the 1st september. Now that you mention it, i will check it closely.
I've editing every players and didn't saw that much errors to be honest, with that logic i mean

Edit: but others errors in PES 5, yes that's probably the one with the most data errors on it, well PES 3 was also atrocious regarding stats for new players, probably created by europeans guys who got no idea about how to create a player in PES with logic, in comparison to WE7

PS3 versions i didn't edited those ones, not interesting as it was my second FG when Fifa bored me.... Except PES 2011, i don't know what's the "+1 years old for all players" dates.

(Edit 2 : About Jlwe2008) I would have loved to recreate Bundes over Eredivisie but i got no idea when i will found time and energy to do it. Now i got the way to get almost realistic market values so it's tempting, but just replacing the less important Swedish teams as they are a bit too many...
The reason for all those clubs was related to the Sweden federation, honored by PES team adding the (pretty small) club where Henrik Larsson was playing, got them access to new contract. Well i would keep only IFK Göteborg.

Billykong explained to me his project and i'm totally good with it for ML, As i plan to do the Big ML version with tons of clubs in D2 and 20 instead of 14 or 16 in D1.

I dont mind that the players born in September through December are a year younger since they wouldn't have had their birthday yet. I hate that Konami did such a terrible job. I will probably use September 1st as the date for the players that I create. I am not going to change any of the ages because it will mess up the players development.

Is there a chart or list on here for the player development based on age? Because I think for example a 19 year old with a standard development curve ends fast so they have to be standard lasting.