The PC Building Thread

wabak said:
Took the plunge and ordered it all...

LG 23EA63V 23 inch Widescreen LED IPS Monitor - £125
Corsair 300R Case - £60
MSI Twin Frozr 7950 3GB - £190
XFX 550W PSU - £50
Corsair Vengeance LP 2x4GB 1600mhz RAM - £58
Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H Motherboard - £145
i7 4770k - £265

:(

Also got Far Cry 3, FC3 Blood Dragon, Crysis 3, Bioshock Infinite and Tomb Raider with the graphics card... so softens the blow quite a bit! haha
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4770k is a waste if your just playing games, the I5 would have given you the same performance in games, also don't expect to be able to overclock the 4770k much, they are terrible for overclocking.
 
Don't really mind, happy with how it's running.

My mates got the 3570k overclocked to 4ghz and a better graphics card (Sapphire HD7970 3GB Vapor-X) and he's only getting on average 4-5 fps better per games we've tested, if that. I could match him if I just overclocked my twin frozr a little bit anyway.

But, at this moment in time overclocking isn't even in my mind, and by the time it is, theres every chance there will have been a breakthrough with the 4770k.
 
I am looking to get a gaming PC of which I have no knowledge of at all, it will be firstly for PES 14 (and hopefully 15?) and be able to play in high settings ect

but can anyone point me in the right direction please? would be much appreciated
 
saintric said:
I am looking to get a gaming PC of which I have no knowledge of at all, it will be firstly for PES 14 (and hopefully 15?) and be able to play in high settings ect

but can anyone point me in the right direction please? would be much appreciated
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I'm assuming you don't want to build one yourself based on comments in the other thread? If so have a look at some of the reputable sites for pre-built gaming PCs. OverclockersUK, for instance....

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=43&catid=2475

I'm sure other people can recommend some good sites for pre-built PCs. Then you have an idea of what a modest pre-built gaming PC costs. They often come with shitty graphics cards as standard so once you stick a decent one in (AMD 7850 or higher, Nvidia 660 or higher) you will see the price start to creep up.

I'd still recommend a self build if you can. You get so much more for your money.
 
wabak said:
Don't really mind, happy with how it's running.

My mates got the 3570k overclocked to 4ghz and a better graphics card (Sapphire HD7970 3GB Vapor-X) and he's only getting on average 4-5 fps better per games we've tested, if that. I could match him if I just overclocked my twin frozr a little bit anyway.

But, at this moment in time overclocking isn't even in my mind, and by the time it is, theres every chance there will have been a breakthrough with the 4770k.
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The 4770k will never overclock well unfortunately, most people struggle to get 4.2ghz out of them, if you get a really good one you may get 4.6 - 4.8ghz.

Time is not going to improve that.
 
footyfan said:
The 4770k will never overclock well unfortunately, most people struggle to get 4.2ghz out of them, if you get a really good one you may get 4.6 - 4.8ghz.

Time is not going to improve that.
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The 4770k isn't a great overclocker but the Ivybridge was even worse and that's why I never got an Ivybridge, not much performance increase over the Sandybridge and virtually zero overclocking potential.

I got my Sandybridge up to 4.5GHZ on air cooling at a safe temperature.
I have not attempted to do my Haswell at present as there is no need to overclock it, when I eventually get round to installing Windows 8.1, which could be next week.(But I said that last week). I will give my Haswell an overclocking test, but I reckon I could get 4.5Ghz at safe temperatures.(Under 70c)
 
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bsmaff said:
The 4770k isn't a great overclocker but the Ivybridge was even worse and that's why I never got an Ivybridge, not much performance increase over the Sandybridge and virtually zero overclocking potential.

I got my Sandybridge up to 4.5GHZ on air cooling at a safe temperature.
I have not attempted to do my Haswell at present as there is no need to overclock it, when I eventually get round to installing Windows 8.1, which could be next week.(But I said that last week). I will give my Haswell an overclocking test, but I reckon I could get 4.5Ghz at safe temperatures.(Under 70c)
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I'm quite glad I went for the 2500k when I built my PC. The Ivy Bridge 3570k had just been released but I heard it wasn't as good an overclocker and temps were higher compared to the Sandy chips, so I played it safe and went for the 2500k.

Mine sits at 4.5Ghz quite happily on air without hitting crazy temps.
 
wabak said:
Took the plunge and ordered it all...

LG 23EA63V 23 inch Widescreen LED IPS Monitor - £125
Corsair 300R Case - £60
MSI Twin Frozr 7950 3GB - £190
XFX 550W PSU - £50
Corsair Vengeance LP 2x4GB 1600mhz RAM - £58
Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H Motherboard - £145
i7 4770k - £265

:(

Also got Far Cry 3, FC3 Blood Dragon, Crysis 3, Bioshock Infinite and Tomb Raider with the graphics card... so softens the blow quite a bit! haha
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Congrats on the new toy :APPLAUD:

Someone is jealous :COAT:
 
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Lami said:
Getting geeky with all this techie talk.

Wish I had the money..
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Seriously mate, you really should look at picking up a PC if only just for PES. You don't need a powerful rig to play PES, and the work of the modders is out of this world. I couldn't go back to option files created in edit mode.
 
Jamezinho said:
Forgot to say, you should overclock that card. It's kind of a waste not to. You should be able to overclock the core by 15-20% easily.

The easy way is to use a modded BIOS which is what I've done.
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Any more info on how I'd accomplish this? I have done it via AMD Catalyst Control Centre for a bit, but apparently it only uses that when it's in boost mode? (ie: getting stressed)
 
The 7950 boost edition cards are quite easy to overclock. You shouldn't need to increase the voltage because they run at 1.25v by default, which is quite high but gives decent headroom for overclocking.

You can overclock within Catalyst but a third party program like MSI Afterburner will give you more options. I use Sapphire Trixx personally. The latest version supports boost cards.

Then you will need stress testing software such as Unigine Valley (I use this but there are other options).

To overclock, set the power limit setting to +20. Then I would set the core clock straight to 1000MHz (leave the memory clock for now). Do a run of Valley using the Extreme HD preset. Keep an eye on temps, but I think you should be ok as you won't be increasing the voltage. If you pass the stress test without a crash to desktop or any on-screen artifacts, raise the core to 1025MHz and try again, then 1050, 1075, 1100, etc..... Basically you want to keep adding small increments to the core clock and test for stability. Once you get a crash or artifacts, drop the clock back a little and you should have found your maximum overclock.

Play some demanding games to check for stability.

Memory follows the same principle but the best test for stability (imo) is playing games. You may wish to not bother with the memory at all because the gains are quite small on the 7950.

If you want to try a modded BIOS I got mine here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1395490/ati-hd-7950-7970-bios-mod-thread

The one I used sets the core clock at 1070MHz (up from 960MHz) and the memory clock at 1500MHz (up from 1250MHz), while the voltage in my case has dropped to 1.18v (down from 1.25v).

I've overclocked the card a little further so I'm now at 1125MHz on the core.
 
There seems to be a lot of PC players on here so can you guys give me some advice.

How much is a decent gaming PC capable of doing all the things you guys mention and is it easy to install the option file etc.

I appreciate you will probably say build you're own pc but I wouldn't have the time or knowledge.

Been playing pro for years , since back in the days when you had to make the badges on a grid and add the colours with squares lol

Really want to get into PCM version but don't know where to start

Cheers in advance
 
nadge said:
There seems to be a lot of PC players on here so can you guys give me some advice.

How much is a decent gaming PC capable of doing all the things you guys mention and is it easy to install the option file etc.

I appreciate you will probably say build you're own pc but I wouldn't have the time or knowledge.

Been playing pro for years , since back in the days when you had to make the badges on a grid and add the colours with squares lol

Really want to get into PCM version but don't know where to start

Cheers in advance
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Hi,

Sounds like you want to buy a pre-built gaming rig. Obviously you will get less for your money but there are still some good pre-built deals out there.

What is your budget?

Are you buying a PC solely for PES or are you looking to play the latest AAA games too?

What country are you in?
 
Hello,
I´ve got a PC bought in 2009:

Pentium DualCore E6300
4GB DDR2 RAM
MSI 7519 P45 Neo-F Motherboard
ATI Radeon HD4650

Is it better to improve my computer or to buy a new one? I would like to enjoy games in Full-HD and great details :P
Are there any cheap and cheerfull alternitives for me or have you got some helpfull tips?
Thanks in advance
 
Frohne said:
Hello,
I´ve got a PC bought in 2009:

Pentium DualCore E6300
4GB DDR2 RAM
MSI 7519 P45 Neo-F Motherboard
ATI Radeon HD4650

Is it better to improve my computer or to buy a new one? I would like to enjoy games in Full-HD and great details :P
Are there any cheap and cheerfull alternitives for me or have you got some helpfull tips?
Thanks in advance
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Your graphics card badly needs updating. Something like a 2gb Radeon HD7850 or a 2gb GTX660 is the minimum I would suggest.

To be honest, I would look at building/buying a new system. With the new consoles coming out you are going to need a good PC to enjoy the new games over the next few years. Get some faster DDR3 RAM (ideally 8gb) and a quad core CPU.

As always, depends on budget and if you are prepared to build a PC yourself.
 
Jamezinho said:
Your graphics card badly needs updating. Something like a 2gb Radeon HD7850 or a 2gb GTX660 is the minimum I would suggest.

To be honest, I would look at building/buying a new system. With the new consoles coming out you are going to need a good PC to enjoy the new games over the next few years. Get some faster DDR3 RAM (ideally 8gb) and a quad core CPU.

As always, depends on budget and if you are prepared to build a PC yourself.
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Ok, thanks for your informations. My budget is limited, 600€ would be the maximum. That's too low, isn't it?
 
Frohne said:
Ok, thanks for your informations. My budget is limited, 600€ would be the maximum. That's too low, isn't it?
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€600, so about £500. You can definitely build a decent PC on that budget. You can also buy a ready-built PC for that price but you won't be able to play next-gen games with it.
 
Jamezinho said:
€600, so about £500. You can definitely build a decent PC on that budget. You can also buy a ready-built PC for that price but you won't be able to play next-gen games with it.
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Would high-detailed PES run on it?
What about improving my old computer? Disk- and harddrive seems to be up to date, there's no need to buy a new case, too.
So I could spend my 500 pounds only on motherboard, CPU, graphiccard and RAM. Am I right? :?
 
You could just buy a new graphics card for your PC and you will be able to play PES on max settings. However if you want to play more demanding games then I think you may need a better CPU and RAM as well.

I think I would upgrade to a 2gb 7790 or 7850. They are quite cheap now and would be a hell of an upgrade from your current card.
 
Jamezinho said:
You could just buy a new graphics card for your PC and you will be able to play PES on max settings. However if you want to play more demanding games then I think you may need a better CPU and RAM as well.

I think I would upgrade to a 2gb 7790 or 7850. They are quite cheap now and would be a hell of an upgrade from your current card.
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Okay, thanks a lot for your tipps :WORSHIP:
First things first... I think I will start with a new graphic card, later on CPU and RAM could be updated.
 
Frohne said:
Okay, thanks a lot for your tipps :WORSHIP:
First things first... I think I will start with a new graphic card, later on CPU and RAM could be updated.
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Probably best mate. Spending around £100-200 on a graphics card will make the most difference for gaming. There have been some great deals on the Radeon HD7950 and GTX670 recently if you want to go for a more powerful graphics cards, but the rest of your system will need upgrading eventually.

Also check your power supply is good enough to power a newer GPU.
 
My money depleted so in the end I picked up a 6870 for 70 quid. Not sure whether to get some more ram now to give me pc some extra oomph. My mobo is old but is compatible for ddr3 ram but maybe not the top end sticks. Or should I buy a cheap secondhand quadcore processor. Decisions, decisions.
 
sauce said:
Whats the gap between a GTX 760 and a 780?
The price difference between them is huge here, also are these the ones I should be looking at?
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If you are looking to buy now yes.

But I would wait the new AMD cards are now starting to be released, and Nvidia are claiming the GPU's they have got ready for launch next May/June time are going to put everything currently on the market to shame.

So you could wait for then unless you really need something now.
 
I wanna build now, also I'm in Brazil so it might take longer than May/June for those to appear here.
I'm leaning towards the 760 because of the price, but how long you think it keeps running the good stuff?
Maybe its better to sacrifice for the 780 then
 
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