Tennis Games - General Discussion

Bought Tennis Elbow 4 on Xbox and this will be my go to tennis game on consoles.

With gameplay being very tweak able and enjoyable and through mods being able to play Career in different eras from the 70s to nowadays it is just a very enjoyable experience. Battling it out against McEnroe, trying to see if you can win in the 90s against Becker, Sampras and Agassi, I am just enjoying it a lot especially since the Career is so deep regarding tournaments with a 1000 players Ranking.
How is the experience with Tennis Elbow on XBOX? What about modes? Can you compare it to PC experience?

I am a bit hesitant. I really like that on PC but I can't see myself playing that on the huge TV screen. Also is it cross-play available?

Thanks
 
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I really enjoy playing it

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The trailer have been maid on an old version I thiank because Early Access 5 is really good.
Big Ant have made a big big step on the right direction

- Better AI
- Better animations
-Nice career mode
-Nice roster
-You can play on the net now
-More punchy rallys

So much better than a mouth ago


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The trailer have been maid on an old version I thiank because Early Access 5 is really good.
Big Ant have made a big big step on the right direction

- Better AI
- Better animations
-Nice career mode
-Nice roster
-You can play on the net now
-More punchy rallys

So much better than a mouth ago


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Start of a career with Sabalenka


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They probably resigned from improving the game. The August official final release doesn't make any sense considering the state of the gameplay now. Animations skipping, ice skating, AI makes random shots without considering your positioning, every single cpu plays the same.
On the other hand Top Spin cpu AI is adaptive to your style of play, it will take advantage of your wrong positioning, it tries to alter the shots based on your stats and how you play at the exact moment.
Idk how Big Ant will manage to fix all these in 2-3 months time. The physics of the ball are absolutely wrong also. Speed is spot on but the physics don't take into account the height of ball after the bounce. Top Spin gets a lot of criticism but they have nailed the physics as distance and height after the bounce matters hugely when you attempt a return.
Absolutely shocking from Big Ant after so many years they can't provide decent gameplay and they're throwing money on licences.
 
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They probably resigned from improving the game. The August official final release doesn't make any sense considering the state of the gameplay now. Animations skipping, ice skating, AI makes random shots without considering your positioning, every single cpu plays the same.
On the other hand Top Spin cpu AI is adaptive to your style of play, it will take advantage of your wrong positioning, it tries to alter the shots based on your stats and how you play at the exact moment.
Idk how Big Ant will manage to fix all these in 2-3 months time. The physics of the ball are absolutely wrong also. Speed is spot on but the physics don't take into account the height of ball after the bounce. Top Spin gets a lot of criticism but they have nailed the physics as distance and height after the bounce matters hugely when you attempt a return.
Absolutely shocking from Big Ant after so many years they can't provide decent gameplay and they're throwing money on licences.
They are shocking company with patching after release, their last 2 cricket games which I have purchased, the after games support was lots of patches for a few months but the underlying issues were not addressed and then they just stop releasing further patches (other than cosmetic ones).
 
They are shocking company with patching after release, their last 2 cricket games which I have purchased, the after games support was lots of patches for a few months but the underlying issues were not addressed and then they just stop releasing further patches (other than cosmetic ones).
They have devs and engine limitations. All 4 tennis games they've released have the exact same issues gameplay wise.
I've playing Top Spin 2k25 since release non stop and the gameplay is getting better and better as I progress slowly in the career. I'm still only in Hard difficulty which is a shock for an expert in tennis games like me. Ofc playing without any visual helpers so I make the game a bit more difficult this way.
 
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They have devs and engine limitations. All 4 tennis games they've released have the exact same issues gameplay wise.
I've playing Top Spin 2k25 since release non stop and the gameplay is getting better and better as I progress slowly in the career. I'm still only in Hard difficulty which is a shock for an expert in tennis games like me. Ofc playing without any visual helpers so I make the game a bit more difficult this way.
I think they have changed or updated their engine. TieBreak is better than the others games.

Topspin 2K25 has a great gameplay but the game is empty : seek roster, poor career mode, no matchmarking. I played it without help too on legend with the real tennis rules with full set it's nice but we need more players and a tournament mode.
 
I think they have changed or updated their engine. TieBreak is better than the others games.

Topspin 2K25 has a great gameplay but the game is empty : seek roster, poor career mode, no matchmarking. I played it without help too on legend with the real tennis rules with full set it's nice but we need more players and a tournament mode.
It looks like the same engine to me, maybe it's an updated version but it still has the same issues.
I totally agree TS needs more players and a tournament mode. I've already sent them feedback. I know they'll implement some of our recommendations but unfortunately the game is selling mostly only in ages 35-60, most sales are ages 40-50. All the others are buying the game to exploit and showcase their ego online. Imo the game should have been released only with online private lobbies and private tournaments.
 
I have always liked tennis games. I used to play regularly on the Atari 2600 and Gameboy. At the moment, there are only two games that I think are worth playing. Personally, I only play one of them now, and I will explain why. The debate for me should be: Full Ace Tennis Simulator or Tennis Elbow 4? Personally, I prefer Tennis Elbow 4 much more because it has more intensity as a game and does not focus so much on press buttons on timing. This is what I don't like about the otherwise great FATS. I feel that I have to pay more attention to pressing the buttons at the right time rather than trying to focus on the sport and take the correct position on the court.
Also, in TE4 I feel the difference more when I switch courts, from clay to grass, etc. I also like the lighting and the depiction of the courts more in TE4. I still enjoy serving in TE4. Again, the timing of the buttons is not as important. It’s more interesting. The career mode is much better in TE4 and has more depth, as does how you improve your character.
However, the things I prefer in FATS over TE are that the former has better implemented slice and drop shots. It has more realistic animations in many cases.

Both are great realistic tennis games, but i prefer much more Tennis Elbow 4 right now.

I should mention that I play both with the necessary mods.
 
I just watched the following video on YouTube, and if you combine Tennis Elbow 4 with Tennis Elbow Manager 2, you can have the ultimate career experience. I've already started a career with my own player, but I'm seriously considering starting a future career with Manager 2. Has anyone tried it?

 
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I just watched the following video on YouTube, and if you combine Tennis Elbow 4 with Tennis Elbow Manager 2, you can have the ultimate career experience. I've already started a career with my own player, but I'm seriously considering starting a future career with Manager 2. Has anyone tried it?


I just watched the following video on YouTube, and if you combine Tennis Elbow 4 with Tennis Elbow Manager 2, you can have the ultimate career experience. I've already started a career with my own player, but I'm seriously considering starting a future career with Manager 2. Has anyone tried it?

I will definitely try this, just noticed that TE Manager is in 66 % off. 10 € for that should be a bargain.
 
I have made some new videos at 60 fps.
More you play, more you fond the gameplay very good. No script like TopSpin2K25👍.

Players from community mode are greats. Rafa and Djoko mouvs are already in!

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I have made some new videos at 60 fps.
More you play, more you fond the gameplay very good. No script like TopSpin2K25👍.

Players from community mode are greats. Rafa and Djoko mouvs are already in!

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You can't be serious really? 🤔😳 Do you find this gameplay acceptable? There's animation skipping every second, player positioning is non existent. Even in Early Access this is totally unacceptable.
What do you mean by "no script like TopSpin 2k25"? There's not a single scripted moment in TS when you play against the cpu.
Are your posts sarcastic or what? This gameplay doesn't have any resemblance to tennis.
 
You can't be serious really? 🤔😳 Do you find this gameplay acceptable? There's animation skipping every second, player positioning is non existent. Even in Early Access this is totally unacceptable.
What do you mean by "no script like TopSpin 2k25"? There's not a single scripted moment in TS when you play against the cpu.
Are your posts sarcastic or what? This gameplay doesn't have any resemblance to tennis.
I'm not joking, i didn't made troll or things like that.
If you didn't see the script on Top Spin 2K25, I can't do anything for you. At some moments, there are pre calculated movs.
The player on Top Spin goes without moving the stick on the ball, this didn't happen on TieBreak.
You ask for a big shoot, and you have a shitty short ball on the middle of the net.
I played without any help.
 

I'm not joking, i didn't made troll or things like that.
If you didn't see the script on Top Spin 2K25, I can't do anything for you. At some moments, there are pre calculated movs.
The player on Top Spin goes without moving the stick on the ball, this didn't happen on TieBreak.
You ask for a big shoot, and you have a shitty short ball on the middle of the net.
I played without any help.
Sorry but I haven't seen any of this happening. The pre calculated moves aren't like this. I can understand what you're saying but I don't have any problem when this is happening. Let me explain: The movement is semi automatic with a small window to override it. We use this tiny window most of the times. If you flick the left stick to one direction and the cpu attempts a shot at the opposite direction the game will lock you. You still have a chance to respond but it's dependant on skills, stats and inertia.
If you find this scripted, yes it's partially scripted and they use the mechanic to match somehow what you see in real life tennis.
Still I can understand why you might dislike it but I don't have an issue with it. The same happens in some cpu serves where the timing window to respond is even smaller.
 


Sorry but I haven't seen any of this happening. The pre calculated moves aren't like this. I can understand what you're saying but I don't have any problem when this is happening. Let me explain: The movement is semi automatic with a small window to override it. We use this tiny window most of the times. If you flick the left stick to one direction and the cpu attempts a shot at the opposite direction the game will lock you. You still have a chance to respond but it's dependant on skills, stats and inertia.
If you find this scripted, yes it's partially scripted and they use the mechanic to match somehow what you see in real life tennis.
Still I can understand why you might dislike it but I don't have an issue with it. The same happens in some cpu serves where the timing window to respond is even smaller.
I like TopSpin gameplay, no problem with that. But when I played Tiebreak, you feel the freedom you haven't in TopSpin 2K25. The drawback is the strange transition/animation sometimes. It's nice to my point of view to have two different feeling to play tennis games. The perfect game will be a fusion of both but I know it will never happened.
 
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They have made a fix two days ago : better slidding animations on clay, better defensive animations.
Nice work!


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Bigs Ants have found an interesting mix between simultaion and arcade : I love it
Maybe the technics need some works but damned playing it with a pad is so much nice



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