Re: Serie A Thread - 2009/10 Season
zeem said:
I was 100% joking when I said Leonardo Of course the club is to blame, especially the 2 you mentioned.
sorry bro... i've been more slow witted than usual lately... it must be the sicilian summer.... too many girls in bikini around me to focus
PLF said:
That is not to say joining Liverpool isn't a great option, it is for most footballers and it would be for myself if I were one, but I think given the choice, Alberto, like Daniele and like Totti would PREFER to stay right where he is. But players don't always get to choose and sometimes have to 'accept' new challenges and situations and I suspect that might happen soon with Alberto if he really is Benitez' 1st choice to replace the supposedly soon departing Alonso.
u're 100% right Sina. liverpool is one of the greatest clubs in the world and every player would sell his mother to wear that shirt, but there's a special bond between roma and the romanisti (like de rossi, aquilani and totti). however, even though that's not what aquilani wanted, he'll sign for liverpool coz he's aware the club needs those money.
besides, leaving apart his love for roma, from a professional point of view, joining liverpool will be a step up for his carreer, as he will have more chances to win some silverware and to get that attention from the media and the fans, that only playing for a spanish or an englis top club can give u theese days..........
that assuming he will be lined up in his natural position.... and also assuming he will finally get rid of his injury troubles (both are pretty big "ifs").
it's pretty much the same for pirlo. 1 month ago he said he wasn't about to leave milano, that he wanted to stay in milan..... but of course, as u said, once the president decides u have to leave, u have no options.
talking about pirlo.....
neoexodus said:
Pirlo is a shadow, that penalty summed it all up. No figure, no concentration......
.....Even if it is pre-season, if you watch a Milan game you will see that he never tries anything creative, instead he just keeps making short passes that won't take the team anywhere
milanista said:
Pirlo has become too predictable and seems to have lost motivation
neoexodus post was in the milan thread, but since he also follows this thread i'm sure he won't mind if i reply in here (so i won't have to repeat the same things in both this thread and the milan thread).
a deep lying playmaker is a great asset to any team. but the thing is the "regista" depends on his teammates as much as his teammates rely on him. so if his teammates do nothing to get rid of the markings and offer him a decent passing target, then there's nothing he can do, no matter how good he is.
what happens to pirlo at milan (it happened last season too) is very similar to what happened to xavi 2 seasons ago..... 2 years ago, there was no movement without the ball in barcelona's gameplan... xavi's teammates were just wandering around the pitch with their markers glued to their asses, so, since there wasn't any good deep target, xavi's only option was to go for a flat, predictable, horizontal short passing game.....
but sure u can't blame the playmaker for this.... it's not his fault if his teammates don't do their part of the job.
also the matches satty mentioned (against holland and arsenal)... it was the whole team that failed (italy against holland and milan against arsenal)... there weren't any good targets in front of pirlo, so he couldn't just pass the ball to nobody.
handling the pressure is one of the most important features for a regista, and pirlo is a maestro in that
besides, considering the specific current situation of pirlo, there are also many other factors to consider. milan spent the last 2 weeks playing silly friendlies, instead of working on the players fitness and pirlo's legs are of course heavy....and we all know fitness\stamina issues have a killer effect on coolness and on the ability to "see the passing line" (wich people usually call "vision").
and then there's the most important factor. after proving himself as the greatest deep lying playmaker in the world for the last 6 years (and 6 years are really a lot of time, just consider ronaldo is seen as a world class player since 2 seasons... and yet it seems a lifetime... just to put things in perspective), the club is now getting rid of him as if he was "damaged goods". they're basically selling him against his will. sure we can understand if he doesn't have any motivation, after such a disappointment.
Chenghis.Khan said:
After watching a part of Italy's 2006 campaign here in Germany (Ghana, USA, Germany ) I came to the conclusion that Pirlo's right foot is definately alien material. If they scientifically examined it (after he stopped playing of course) they would certainly gather knowledge of extra-terrestial life forms (which could lead mankind into a football related inferiority complex).
yep, i can agree with that... actually what's even more impressive than his foot it's his brain... that's what really makes the difference between him and anyone else.
just give him a good deep target, and he will put the ball right on his foot, no matter how far that target his or how fast is that target running.
and infact, even in the last 2 years, playing with the slow lazy milan we saw, every time his teammates tried to get rid of their markings (it happened a few times) he made the difference....
to make it short, the problem is not pirlo, the problems are the players who stroll around him.
but once again, milan's board can't see what's good in their project and what's not, so once again, instead of getting rid of those part of the project which don't work properly, they're getting rid of a key asset.... as they did with ancelotti.
usually when a project falls apart, we try to figure out wich are the good parts of that project, thos parts which should be preserved, the core u should rebuild your new project around...
milan instead is throwing away that good core and keeping everything else.... oh dear.
btw Chenghis.Khan, wellcome to the thread
rfu brought in a very good topic.... but i'm out of time now, so i'll try to drop my thoughts on it next time
@tobi: sorry mate, but i have no infos on that.... hopefully someone will shed some light on your question
Of course the club is to blame, especially the 2 you mentioned. 
What the hell is going on??????
), no more crazy money in the mercato, a new stadium, and we need to improve marketing and branding of the club (its a shame we don't play exciting attacking football like Barca and Arsenal... we would do better in these preseason tours overseas). I heard that we have more season ticket holders this season. That's certainly a step in the right direction
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) I came to the conclusion that Pirlo's right foot is definately alien material. If they scientifically examined it (after he stopped playing of course) they would certainly gather knowledge of extra-terrestial life forms (which could lead mankind into a football related inferiority complex).
... and that doesn't sound good to me.
