Re: Serie A Thread - 2009/10 Season
ok there's really lots of stuff to talk about, and u guys also brought in many interesting points, so i'll just pick those who catched my interest most (otherwise it would take 30 mins to write the post...)
lucio to inter..... weird.. to be honest i can already see the italians destroying his (a bit undeserved) good reputation as soon as they'll watch him in action...
ibra to barca.... the deal is very good no doubt about it... ibra is unique... but it's always tricky to hold a player against his will.... plus inter got a world class striker and lots of money (appearently)..... the thing is they already bought a world class striker (milito).... .. and even though (funny coincidence) they happen to be 2 of the most versatile world class poachers in the world.... the eto'ò - milito partnership doesn't seem to me as complete and balanced as the ibra-milito one.....
rfu said:
wait a minute, what are those bracketed numbers? Is that crosses per game?
that is "crosses during a play"... the other stats usually consider every kind of cross (from a free kick or during a play... this stats instead just consider the "proper" crosses).
Sorry, I made my arguement poorly. What I meant to say is that being an U21 international says very little and does not mean a player will make a succesful transition or warrant a place in teh Italian NT.
i know mate. that's why i said "
u know that's not right"
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u're right when u say that being an under 21 international doesn't mean that much... many players find the most different ways to screw their carreers... and some others just turn out to be not good enough.
but i'd like to make 2 points:
first - i'm not implying abate will become something special.... i'm not talking about his potential.... infact my post was pretty much "against the potential factor". i said "di gennaro has lot of potential, but don't miss abate, as he's got great "current ability".
second - yeah being a international under 21 is notso important..... but being an italy under 21 is a bit different. u see, when it comes to under 21, the azzurrini ("the little azzurri") are for under 21 football what italy is for world football.... actually it's even more than that.... because, while talking about the national team italy comes right after brazil (4 world cups).... when it comes to under 21 football we are the ones in charge.... and by a huge gap (we won 5 euro championships, then there are spain, england and holland wth 2 victories.... we got to consider the euro championships as there's no such thing as a under 21 world cup).
to make it into the squad, u really must be something special, as the competition is enourmous....i mean we all saw italy during the last under 21 competition.... most of our backups would be starters in germany's formation... and i picked germany precisely coz they're the champions, wich means they have quite a team.
and it's not like this is a special generation, actually this under 21 team is slightly poorer than its predecessors...
so being part of the italy under 21 team doesn't mean u'll become a top class player..... but sure it means that u're one of the best under 21 players in the world right now.... and that's is something..... actually for those who consider current ability more important than potential (like me), that's much more than something.
PLF said:
@ Ben, I think by now we all know Zamaprini doesn't take drugs. He's just naturally the most crazy chairman around. Lol... I would not want him to be president of my club (though he's done SO much for Palermo) but he's definitely good to have around due to his crazy comments/antics and because he's funny. To have big mouths like him and Mourinho and others around in the league, it makes the league more interesting off the pitch!
seconded. let's go for "he's nuts" then
. jokes apart u brought in an interesting point here when u said "i wouldn't want him to be my president".
indeed i feel like that quite often... i mean it's quite obvious he's been our major issue in the past few years, and his crazy unpredictable mood changes costed us a lot.... but then again, as a matter of fact, if it wasn't for him my beloved palermo right now would still be playing vs the likes of castel di sangro..... he gave us a new dimension.... just consider the italy team wich won the world cup... u know wich was the club which gave more players to that team? not juve, neither milan or roma or inter.... it was the mighty palermo! a team who just arrived in serie a, after spending 28 years in serie b (5 italy players were coming from palermo... no other club did better than that).
so even though most of the times i complain about his attitude, his crazy comments and decisions... i gotta admit he's not
that clueless afterall.
i mean, marino, corvino and monchi are praised as Gods (and they actually deserve that credit), but zamparini (helped by foschi) brought here barzagli, simplicio, barone, cavani, amauri, nocerino, bresciano, brienza, fontana, gasbarroni, kjaer, mascara, santana, pepe, zauli...... he' was the first to realise amauri's, kjaer's simplcio's and barzagli's potential... he's the one who realised that toni and grosso (who were in the middle of a pretty average carreer) could have becom world class players, with the right support....
so even though he's crazy and most of the times he acts like the most clueless president, his achievements prove he's not really stupid... a clueless president wouldn't have done what he did... he took many risks during his reign here in palermo (toni, amauri, zauli, grosso, corini, just to mention a few) and almost always, time proved him right.
as for that della valle press conference, i watched it live on tv... and he was absolutely great. i feel the della valle brothers are a classier, cooler, less crazy version of zamparini... sure the kind of president everyone would love.
neoexodus said:
So is a trequartista de usual (original reason) number 10 of the team? the "pushing strings" kinda guy? Like Diego for Juve now?
there are many, many wrong things about that article... by reading it i realise the guy has not really a clear idea of what a trequartista is.... the only agreable point is the title of the article.... infact the trequartistas are quite an endangered species today (for many reasons i pointed out in 2 occasions, a few months ago and last year)..... he failed to realise why this is happening though... and also why the british game doesn't suit the trequartista role... i'm gonna drop a few thoughts about it later, as i'm running out ot time now.
as for your main question (what's really a "trequartista"?), a few days ago abou asked me if i could explain a bit the italian football glossary... just a few lines to explain each and every role. unfortunately i can't do it right not, coz i'm in a hurry, but i'll do it in my next post... and of course i'll also write about the trequartista
Gerd, yes we bought pastore... he played 20 mins in a friendly match yesterday, and i got to admit he was absolutely stunning!
however it's still way too early to say what this kid is about... afterall i'm still waiting to express a fair opinion about abel hernandez (and we bought him last season). we'll see
edit:
i'm glad to announce (even though u guys probably don't really care) i'm now a ps3 owner!! i know i'm a bit late, i always wanted to get one, but never found the time to actually buy one (let's just say that i wanted it, but not badly enough to go to a store on purpose to buy one).
however sathurday my girl basically kicked me out MY home and told me not to get back without a new tv (got to admit we really needed a new tv)... so since i was at the store, i saw the ps3 and thought "what the hell, let's get that too!".
i bought 3 games: fifa, pes (i'm gonna see wich one feels best and drop the other) and grand theft auto...... and Jeez! i had no idea the whole gaming industry went through such an improvement.... i never imagined the ps3 would have been such a more powerful and sophisticated machine than the ps2....
damn i feel sooo old right now!
From what I've seen of him in international tournament, he is good.
Last time I checked Inter were Italian champions.
