Re: Serie A Thread - 2009/10 Season
yes, he isIf im right isnt Aquilani injured right know?
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yes, he isIf im right isnt Aquilani injured right know?
Agreed. Pirlo, D'Ago and Cigarini are better alternatives. Better Benitez should've never tried to sell Xavi last season which perhaps why he was so eager to leave.sure aquilani might even turn out to be a good playmaker.... but he's already a stunning mezz'ala, so why not getting a proper regista, given that's what u need? besides lining up a player with alberto's shot and assisting skills in that position would be a waste.
Again agreed. We've all seen how no one's managed to play both Gerard and Lampard in the same line up.as for gerrard, yes, he might step back a little (he has done that before afterall), but, even though gerrard is (along with de rossi and essien) probably the most versatile world class midfielder in the world, i think forcing him into a system, depriving him of the freedom to wander around the pitch following his instinct and keeping him far from the box.... it's a blasphemy.
I've never rated Benitez since he joined from Valencia. The way he insisted on playing Gerard on the wings for more than half a season is just unforgivable in my eyes... and I don't even like Liverpool. And tehn trying to force Xavi out of the team for Barry... doesn't make sense to me. Now the signing of Aquilani ask some serious questions. Is it possible to convert a mezz'ala into a regista?however, given my enourmous admiration for rafa, i tend to believe he perfectly knows what he's doing...
Its not as easy or straight forward as you think. Besides, players like Pirlo and D'Ago were already playmakers before they were converted.Maybe he does want to make him into a regista. He won't be the first attacking midfielder to be converted to a playmaker?
I'm surprised you thought Dossena would be a success. Benitez drafted him in to play as a LB and Dossena was/is a wing-back. Similarly you wouldn't expect Maggio or Pieri to be too succesful as side-backs. Dossena is anohter reason why I question Benitez's tactical acumen.oh crap, u just beated me to it. infact i was about to write something on the line of "however don't give too much credit to my opinions... as i was the one who thought dossena could have done great in england"
I'm ready to put money down that Aquilani will flop at Liverpool this season Its shame really, its a world cup year as well and Italy desperately need a player of his ability. And serie A in general, we have lost too many skillful and talented players in just one seasoncongrats abhi. i sincerely hope, for liverpool, for u and for alberto aswell, that i'm completely wrong (wich, considering the precedents, it's quite likely
Marco Amelia (Palermo) > Genoa
Rubinho (Genoa) > Palermo
... melo should cost as much as nocerino (or even less)....
oh that's for sure. but we knew it couldn't last forever. we were very lucky; for 2 consecutives generations we had the best cbs in the world. baresi was the best of his generation, bergomi was the second best..... when they retired nesta (the best in the world in his generation) and cannavaro (the 2nd best) took their spots..... and the same goes for our sidebacks..... such an unbelievable luck can't last.neoexodus said:Just read and article and even if it wasn't clear, it pretty much said that Italy is lacking in their strong spots. I mean, you don't have that strong defence Italy had years ago
yeah, u're right. the thing is i thought dossena (unlike maggio, who could never be a pure sideback) could have become a good leftback. then, thinking about his stamina, his pace, his crosses, i thought he was pretty suited for epl... and the fact that he was coming from a "british-like" city like udine was another point to consider....rfu said:I'm surprised you thought Dossena would be a success. Benitez drafted him in to play as a LB and Dossena was/is a wing-back. Similarly you wouldn't expect Maggio or Pieri to be too succesful as side-backs
yes, it is. and, considering his passing game, who knows, alberto might even turn out to be a great regista........ but the thing is, we can't be sure about that..... while we are sure alberto is an amazing mezz'ala, so my question is why spending so much money on a player u will have to adapt to a new role? why not getting a proper deep lying playmaker like d'agostino or ledesma (i won't consider pirlo as now is not on sale anymore)?rfu said:Now the signing of Aquilani ask some serious questions. Is it possible to convert a mezz'ala into a regista?
why? nocerino has been doing great so far... actually the comparison with melo is pretty embarassing... i mean melo's positioning is soo poor prandelli swapped him for jorgensen this season in a couple of matches! jorgensen playing as a metodista!!! can u believe that? and prandelli said "i did it because martin gives me more confidence in terms of positioning than felipe"....Dominic said:I agree with your point Ben, but that is taking it a bit too far.. way too far.
ben's ok, Chenghis.Khan... aswell as lo zio... as u prefereChenghis.Khan said:@ lo zio (or is ben ok?): could you please elaborate on that?
sorry mate but once again, i didn't find the time to comment on it. but i promise i'll do it next timerfu said:No one's commented on my findings regarding the financial situations of Italy's top clubs
yeah, except u were able to sum up the point in 3 lines, while i had to write for about 10 minutes.... jeez i should really work on my ability to precis when i write in english!PLF said:lol just read your post Ben.
Seems like we're in the exact same boat.
The way he insisted on playing Gerard on the wings for more than half a season is just unforgivable in my eyes... and I don't even like Liverpool.
Again agreed. We've all seen how no one's managed to play both Gerard and Lampard in the same line up
I didn't realize that. But isn't it more so a testament to Gerrard's ability as a player rather than Benitez's tactical acumen? And I think those goals and assists resulted from Gerrard playing in a free role further foward (I guess towards teh right-side of midfield) and not being bogged down with defensive duties (Gerrard can tackle, but its better to have two positionally adept midfielders operating centrally - Xavi and Mascherano - and stifle the oppossitions attacks, rather than risk a yellow card from a mistackle). IMO Benitez can play Gerard as a right back or as a CB and still be heralded as a genius because Gerarrd is so damn versatile. He was better than any right (or even left) winger Liverpool had, that was all. Still I think he was played out of position.Gerrard's season on the right was his breakthrough year in terms of being a pure goalscorer, he won award after award and single handedly won the FA Cup scoring over 20 goals in that season and shit loads of assists.
I haven't followed England as closely this past season, but I thought Lampard was being played further back and Gerrard in a free role as a playmaker, not as an out-and-out winger. There's a difference. And I wouldn't yet deem the Lampard-Gerrard partnership a success, England haven't yet been tested. Aslo Capello seems to have presented himself with another problem, how do you play Rooney and Gerrard in the same team with both preferring to play in the 'hole' as a support striker.Capello seems to be getting success out of Lampard and Gerrard in the same team... by playing Gerrard out wide.
Ha ha... that was the Inter game... I couldn't believe my eyes either. Funny thing is Jorgensen did a good job on the day. Melo is just a bulky player, strong on the ball, mobile with good work rate. I also like that he gets 'involved' and doesn't just sit back and switch off like Donadel or Montolivo.i mean melo's positioning is soo poor prandelli swapped him for jorgensen this season in a couple of matches! jorgensen playing as a metodista!!! can u believe that? and prandelli said "i did it because martin gives me more confidence in terms of positioning than felipe"....
a metodista with a poor sense of position is like a winger with a poor dribbling.
The two tend to interchange but usually Rooney plays in the hole and Gerrard plays on the left but with the license to roam.I haven't followed England as closely this past season, but I thought Lampard was being played further back and Gerrard in a free role as a playmaker, not as an out-and-out winger. There's a difference. And I wouldn't yet deem the Lampard-Gerrard partnership a success, England haven't yet been tested. Aslo Capello seems to have presented himself with another problem, how do you play Rooney and Gerrard in the same team with both preferring to play in the 'hole' as a support striker.
By the way Lo Zio, Palermo are looking good. They're making some good moves in the mercato, thus far. Now if they can only sign a good CF, a top 5 finish is certainly likely, more so than Genoa or Napoli. And I personally prefer Rubinho to Amelia. He has more personality and just as sharp reflexes... problem is his handling and decision making... also you need a replacement for Liverani. Maybe there's a youth player in the fold already. Cassanni-Goian-Kjaer-Balzeratti looks a solid line up.
I'm pretty certain Cassano will be staying with Samp. Inter also have Milito-Eto'o-Balotelli-Mancini-Obinna-Quaresma.
Why oh why did you have to include Del Nero and Meghni in that list? Especially Meghni? He's so awful.yep, sabatini is doing really good so far... not that i'm surprised... afterall he was the man behind lazio's project (mauri, matuzalem, zarate, rocchi, foggia, pandev, meghni,ledesma, cribari, del nero were all "his" signings).
I'm not sure about that. ITs difficult to compare since the leagues are so drastically different... and premiership sides have much more quality depth compared with Palermo. La Liga sides can destroy anyone with their swift attacking football (ask Juve about that one ). But again its difficult to ascertain such things. But looking at serie A... the fiorentina midfield currently has a big hole in it yet to be fulfilled after Melo's departure... Roma don't have a complete squad (no recognized CF, no replacement CBs, no replacement for Totti) one injury and they're a mess... Napoli don't have a complete squad either (no quality replacement for Hamsik, no legt wing-back; De Laurentiis said something about that that cracked me up - funny dude )... Udinese are strong and with a prooper CF (albeit Corradi) there's a chance provided Di Natale stays injury free and D'Ago continues his good form... Samp might be overhauling their 3-5-2 formation so I think it will take them a while to get going... So I'm really confident about Palermo, they are the most compact side having only strengthed thier squad rather selling thier best players. Plus they're not playing Europe this year so they won't have a problem in terms of depth. Only they should work on improving their front line becuase they still don't have a reliable goal scorer and Miccoli will surely be out for 1 or 2 months with injuries.but, for good that it might look, our team is not really a 5th place contender imo. we would be a 5th place contender in spain.... we would be fighting for the 5th spot in premier league, along with everton, man city (?), aston villa and tottenham (?)....
Zenga s'alright. He looks to be a disciplinarian which I think is important, although over doing it can cause problems. But I think he'll do okay at palermo. Lets hope so anyway so that he'll be ready to takeover at Interwe're doing very well during this transfer window, but it's not like the other teams aren't doing well too..... besides we lost one of the very best coaches in the league (and one of the most promising young coaches in europe).
4-3-1-2 with stankovic behind Milito and Eto'oWhat formation were Inter playing?
Cassano is a support striker, not a trequartista. THe question is can Cassano be converted into that role. Lo Zio and myself had that discussion earlier and according to him "no". Plus Mourinho wants a trequartista with a good defensive work rate. Morrati likes Cassano and he knows he will appease the fans by signing him, but only Mourinho stands in his way. According to Jose, Cassano wouldn't fit in the role.But i saw in Gazzeta that Mourinho is looking for a Trequartista. He said it.
no surprise there. We've had that disconnect between midfield and attack for several years, you hvae to wonder why we let go of D. Pizarro when he'd fit in perfectly. But its good Lazio won, besides we've won the supercoppa enough times, its not good being greedyInter pretty much dominated the game, but seemed like they barely created anything?