Real Madrid Thread

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The_Special_One said:
Very kind words amigo. Fortunately you like when the Knicks won, so you're a very good person. :P
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If I'm a very good person every time the Knicks win, then I don't know if I'm a very good person often enough, :P


The_Special_One said:
About Pellegrini, well, he's an extraordinary coach, no doubts about that but, and there's always a but, the defeats against Lyon and Alcorcón were inexcusable.
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Well, actually Madrid deserved to win Lyon that day. They had 5 clear chances to score in the first half. In the 2nd one, Lyon scored in their only shot on goal and when Pellegrini looked at the bench... there was no one he liked. The dutch weren't there, they were on their way to play the final.

The defeat against Alcorcon, to me, is to blame on the players. There wasn't a tactical problem there. It was all attittude. You can now blame Pellegrini for not motivating the players. But it was very difficult when from day one the Madrid press wanted to behead him and the president "never never never" defended him. It's really hard to work like this. And players won't take you seriously.

The_Special_One said:
By the way, about your Madridista friend, what does he think about Mou, Perez?
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Some of the youngest I know are blinded and act as if they were soldiers of Mourinho. It seems everything should be allowed to win. And they don't care about anything. The kind of people that would celebrate Pepe brekaing Messi's leg. Really. It's not far from the "By the criminal way if necessary" headlines that a certain newspaper printed. But theses are adolescent brats I barely know.

The close friends that are of my age are very worried for the club future and have been years waiting for a decent alternative to Florentino and the type of club Madrid has become. They value Mourinho as a good coach but they don't like at all his attittude and the way he's toying with the historical Madrid values. They don't understand why their beloved club has turned into a moaning and paranoid club. And actually they envy a lot our situation at Barcelona. Just the contrary of what it was in the 80s, when "La quinta del Buitre" owned for several years with lots of homegrown players.

All in all I think the most important thing is that there's not a model7system for the future. Mourinho may win things, but he's not building anything. The day he goes away, the club will have to start from scratch again. The same applies to Florentino and the big investments they've done recently.

But that's people who's around 40 years and can see things from a certian perspective. Maybe it's a matter of perspective, after all. I also know (as you can see in Barcelona-related threads) a lot of Barcelona fans I can't stand with their attittude of "we're the best in the world". Age normally plays a big part in those attittudes. When yuo're older and you've seen your team go up and dow several times, you know that what goes around comes around.
 
Do you have more complete informations about the Valdano case ? Because here we only have rumours ...
Or maybe it is only speculation ?
 
drekkard said:
All in all I think the most important thing is that there's not a model7system for the future. Mourinho may win things, but he's not building anything. The day he goes away, the club will have to start from scratch again. The same applies to Florentino and the big investments they've done recently.
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I pretty much agree with everything you said before and I thank you to share with us the points of view your Madridistas friends have regarding the club, the president and the coach. The point about age is spot on, when I was young I loved Florentino for buying all those magnificent players. Then, the years passed when I realized how arrogant his policy was. However, I think both Perez and Mourinho are improving in this point, as Aguero transfer saga is showing. In my opinion, a club like Real Madrid MUST have cordial relations with every football clubs and it seems that the Direction is realizing that by avoid any kind of interest in the Argie striker. Thus, the institutional relations between Barça and Real are all about football should be (note that I'm talking exclusively about institutional relationship, in field the story is very different, unfortunately).

Backing to el Kun, the main story in Spain nowadays, if you ask me if I want him at Madrid I will immediately say YES! Nevertheless, it is important to concern how you do the deal and how you are going to fit the player in the current team. I believe the actual roster is ok but if Madrid wants to bring the Argentinian player (and that is a matter to the coach, not me) the president has to a gentleman and deal correctly with Atlético Madrid. None of us Madridistas want another our with a rival. All in all, If Madrid wants the player the club where he belongs has to show his availability and disposition to deal with us.


airjoca said:
Valdano gone, more power to Mou. What do the Madridistas think of this?
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Great, I mean, I have zero problems with Valdano but I've always defend the idea that Jorge Valdano was an unnecessary piece in Madrid's table. Mourinho is a coach that takes all the contral in a football structure as I've already told you over this thread. However, I think that the Director Deportivo (I don't what is the correct translation in English - maybe General Manager?) figure is fundamental in a football club, he is the person who deals with the players coach targets. In RM case Zidane is the right person at the right time. He is a low profile guy (when I say low profile I mean his actions behind the fields), apparently has a good relation with Mou so everything seems perfect to me. Time will tell.


drekkard said:
If I'm a very good person every time the Knicks win, then I don't know if I'm a very good person often enough, :P
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I'm so disappointed with you, I thought you liked the Bockers... or are you being sarcastic about the amount of wins the Knicks conquer? :(

I'm kidding mate! Good luck to you tomorrow, you will need all the luck to beat MU. They are a tough one.
 
Hey, just jocking about the knicks. I like them the same way people likes Atlético de Madrid for being a club where there's always something preventing them from winning. Though the knicks are classier, even if Spike Lee could take a rest for some decades and don't show at the MSG.

About Real, I don't really think you need Aguero. What Madrid needs is just improve the possession game in the midfield of what is already an incredible squad, one of the best in their history. Really, the fact that Barcelona is what it is right now seems to diminish how good Madrid squad is. In my oppinion, it's a much better squad than that of the galacticos. A lot more balanced, plenty of young players that can grow even more ( Di MAria, Ozil, Higuain...).

Signing Aguero wouldn't be a wise decision in my oppinion. They need Tevez a lot more, because one of the problems is the low workrate of the forwards, and Aguero will offer even less than Benzema there.

That said, the move of letting Valdano go and giving all power to Mourinho has been a very dangerous move for next season.
 
Real Madrid are getting desperate IMO, 100% Agree that the only way Madrid can improve on the current crop is if they bring in players of similar quality but who put in a massive shift but these players aren't normally "fancy" enough for Real.

Signing Aguero will do nothing to improve Real. Tevez could be a very good signing actually, I think Real need to realise that the only way to get close to Barcelona is keep the current squad the same for another 2-3 years so they can get an understanding, chopping and changing will be want Barcelona want
 
Why are Real after Fabio Coentrao and what does this mean for Marcelo?
 
Maybe Marcelo will be moved to an advanced role like he did many times this year with Arbeloa taking his spot. Let's wait till the move happens though.
 
It's typical, Real are trying to find the "upgrades" to certain positions to combat Barcelona he's possibly slightly better than Marcelo, So lets spend 30M on him :))
 
yeah, selling Marcelo now is ridicilous, considering he is their third opinion for captain no?

anyway..i can´t see him sitting on bench...

if they realy want to swap Marcelo for Coentrao, then good luck building a team...

Madrid got it wrong..
 
and aint coentrao plays as a winger now? I think hes so good upfront that he doest play full back anymore...a little like gareth bale
 
Coentrão as right back? Seriously... I wouldn't like Benfica stars signing for a Mourinho's team..he just turns them into robots. It would be a pity to see Coentrão's talent to waste as a right back.
 
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I`m very impress with RM they look a step ahead from last season. They dominated Barca! but Barca`s small chances were deadly the need some size they looked like a flea circus.

Benezma needed to make the easy pass I know he needs the confidence and work on his headers too :SMUG: I think they should of won by a few goals. Sanchez needs time to adapt to the Barca way he was on his own with no one to help him. If RM continues like this I can see them running away these season. Is it me ozil speed improve over the summer. Is RM still in the hunt for a ST ?
 
Real played much better than Barça and should have won this one, clearly. Barcelona were cynical and effective, and that was about it.

I reckon this season won't be a walk in the park for Barça...
 
About Coentrão, it's rather obvious he should always play as a left back or as a winger so he can have more chances of whipping in crosses, which are often deadly. Playing him in the middle is a total waste.
 
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