polakis
PES - FIFA Greek master
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
What?
You want out AEK Athens and in Helsinki?
Hahahahaha...
Dream on!
What?
You want out AEK Athens and in Helsinki?
Hahahahaha...
Dream on!
PES2010 discussion thread
- Thread starter ThomasGOAL
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Kaiser
PES Enthusiast
- 3 July 2003
- Borusse
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
NO NO NO NO.
It went all wrong.
these teams IN...
Hearts
AEK Athens
Racing Genk
Trabzonspor
Dinamo Bucureşti
Hapoel Tel Aviv
Austria Vienna
Hadjuk Split
and your Helsinki's AIK etc OUT!
Though i know the big greek three are generally in anyway, i was using them as a example.
NO NO NO NO.
It went all wrong.
these teams IN...
Hearts
AEK Athens
Racing Genk
Trabzonspor
Dinamo Bucureşti
Hapoel Tel Aviv
Austria Vienna
Hadjuk Split
and your Helsinki's AIK etc OUT!
Though i know the big greek three are generally in anyway, i was using them as a example.
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
the j league game is not that different then the western pro evo's...
the j league game is not that different then the western pro evo's...
Kaiser
PES Enthusiast
- 3 July 2003
- Borusse
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Just played PES 2009 online. The first time in a Loooooooooooooonnnnnnnnngggggg time and it felt just shit/wrong/broken/laggy whatever you want to call it.
I actually played a decent few games with a guy(nice not to play big team charlies)
Bordeux V Marsielle
Ajax V PSV
Genoa V Udinese
3-3 every time Nonsense, teams 2-0 up. Still playing all attack mentally and no matter how much i drag them back change mentality they STILL go forward
Please fix Konami
Just played PES 2009 online. The first time in a Loooooooooooooonnnnnnnnngggggg time and it felt just shit/wrong/broken/laggy whatever you want to call it.
I actually played a decent few games with a guy(nice not to play big team charlies)
Bordeux V Marsielle
Ajax V PSV
Genoa V Udinese
3-3 every time Nonsense, teams 2-0 up. Still playing all attack mentally and no matter how much i drag them back change mentality they STILL go forward
Please fix Konami
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goalgerd
File Maker
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
played pes09 for 1st time over the weekend,the game is broken from the old ps2 pes games.my mate was beating me 8 and 9 nil using the same cheat tactics of going down the wing(my sb's were missing every time) and crossing it in for an easy finish,how can anyone say this game is playable is beyond me
Just played PES 2009 online. The first time in a Loooooooooooooonnnnnnnnngggggg time and it felt just shit/wrong/broken/laggy whatever you want to call it.
I actually played a decent few games with a guy(nice not to play big team charlies)
Bordeux V Marsielle
Ajax V PSV
Genoa V Udinese
3-3 every time Nonsense, teams 2-0 up. Still playing all attack mentally and no matter how much i drag them back change mentality they STILL go forward
Please fix Konami
played pes09 for 1st time over the weekend,the game is broken from the old ps2 pes games.my mate was beating me 8 and 9 nil using the same cheat tactics of going down the wing(my sb's were missing every time) and crossing it in for an easy finish,how can anyone say this game is playable is beyond me
zeemeister
foxy engine
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
So the game is broken because you're shit?
played pes09 for 1st time over the weekend,the game is broken from the old ps2 pes games.my mate was beating me 8 and 9 nil using the same cheat tactics of going down the wing(my sb's were missing every time) and crossing it in for an easy finish,how can anyone say this game is playable is beyond me
So the game is broken because you're shit?
goalgerd
File Maker
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
id probably beat you mate,il play you online later ..... oh wait
what im saying is it used to be a challenge to play pes on the highest level and you needed to have some sort of a football brain,goals were not easy to come by matches never finished 8 or 9 nil.now anyone can pick it up and use these soft goal methods which has taken the skill out of it
id probably beat you mate,il play you online later ..... oh wait
what im saying is it used to be a challenge to play pes on the highest level and you needed to have some sort of a football brain,goals were not easy to come by matches never finished 8 or 9 nil.now anyone can pick it up and use these soft goal methods which has taken the skill out of it
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Andy
Evoweb Jester/Stadboardmaker.
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Hey guys just thought as there aint alot to talk about 2010 at the moment i would post these old news snippets from pes 2008 & 09 just to remind ourselves of whats been claimed.Dont get me wrong i want konami too prove me wrong as like the rest of you i want 2010 to be a hit.But just wanted to post these so we can all keep in mind "Dont believe the hype"
PES 2008 out autumn: First shots and details!Monday 18-Jun-2007 12:41 PM 'Learning AI' to make for "the closest simulation of real football to date"
The next edition of everybody's favourite football sim, Pro Evolution Soccer 2008, is well underway and Konami has finally broken the silence and revealed what it hopes will make this the footy game to own this year.
The big new feature Konami is shouting about is an 'adaptive' AI system it calls "Teamvision". As Konami explains: "Teamvision is a sophisticated AI programming that learns and adapts according to an individual's style of play. As such, it will learn new ways to build attacks and to counter specific movements and previous attacking or defensive errors, ensuring games are more in line with the tactical but flowing nature of the real thing."
So finding a big weakness in the game's AI and repeating your technique won't work anymore, by the sounds of it.
Defenders will work together to track down the player, closing up spaces and blocking advances before they can be converted into goals.
Konami emphasises the significance of the ball being "treated as a separate entity", as with previous Pro Evo titles, and explains that passing and control over the ball will work "along the same lines".
But overall 'close control' of the ball is said to be improved, with dribbling and other subtle moves tweaked to allow the player to weave through the defence. Set pieces have also been enhanced, now giving you full control over the number of players and position of the defensive wall, among other offensive options.
As expected, Konami will be adding a fair bit of spit and polish the visuals of the new game on PS3 and 360, with full facial animations, sure to make for more convincing replays, and more realistic cloth movement on the kits as the players sprint around. An edit mode will also feature.
Shingo Takatsuka, creator of the series and producer of PES 2008 said, "We have taken a long hard look at what has made the Pro Evolution Soccer series so popular, and where we want to take it next.
"With the new Teamvision AI system, we truly believe that we have elevated the game to a new level. The movement of players off the ball, coupled with the total control given to the player, creates the closest simulation of real football to date. We really hope everyone enjoys our evolution. I promise it will be worth the wait."
PES 2008 will be out in Autumn 2007. Konami "pulling out stops" for PES 2009 News News by Robert Purchese
14 August, 2008Konami claims to have "pulled out all the stops" in order to make Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 a "landmark in footballing games" as part of a raft of feature announcements today.
Controls, visuals and AI are all areas rethought and rebuilt in order to reinvigorate the football simulation - and of course to tackle increasingly stiff competition from FIFA.
Pulling off tricks, for instance, is now done by rapidly changing direction when on the ball, rather than by relying on complex special moves.
Teamvision AI, the big idea from last year, will be more adept and send team members off on runs as they adapt more intuitively to their surroundings.
Plus, everything you see should be more detailed, sound better, and behave much more realistically than ever before; weather conditions mean passes need to be stronger on soggier pitches and so on.
Become a Legend mode, however, is billed as the biggest addition in PES 2009. This casts you as a single midfielder or striker, because those are the most exciting positions, obviously.
Here you start as a rookie and plough your way to the top, climbing the transfer ladder after good results and falling down after bad ones.
Become a Legend extends online to Legends mode, which sounds a lot like Be a Pro from FIFA. Friends band together together in teams - no word on how many - and take on rival squads.
"We have pulled out all the stops to make PES 2009 a landmark in footballing games. From the most basic controls through to the wide-ranging additions to game modes such as Become a Legend, all-new visuals, sound, and the Edit mode, Seabass and his team have strived to cram as much as they can into the new game," said Jon Murphy from Konami.
"And with more online announcements to follow, there is every reason to believe that PES 2009 is the football game everyone has been waiting for."
The next edition of everybody's favourite football sim, Pro Evolution Soccer 2008, is well underway and Konami has finally broken the silence and revealed what it hopes will make this the footy game to own this year.
The big new feature Konami is shouting about is an 'adaptive' AI system it calls "Teamvision". As Konami explains: "Teamvision is a sophisticated AI programming that learns and adapts according to an individual's style of play. As such, it will learn new ways to build attacks and to counter specific movements and previous attacking or defensive errors, ensuring games are more in line with the tactical but flowing nature of the real thing."
So finding a big weakness in the game's AI and repeating your technique won't work anymore, by the sounds of it.
Defenders will work together to track down the player, closing up spaces and blocking advances before they can be converted into goals.
Konami emphasises the significance of the ball being "treated as a separate entity", as with previous Pro Evo titles, and explains that passing and control over the ball will work "along the same lines".
But overall 'close control' of the ball is said to be improved, with dribbling and other subtle moves tweaked to allow the player to weave through the defence. Set pieces have also been enhanced, now giving you full control over the number of players and position of the defensive wall, among other offensive options.
As expected, Konami will be adding a fair bit of spit and polish the visuals of the new game on PS3 and 360, with full facial animations, sure to make for more convincing replays, and more realistic cloth movement on the kits as the players sprint around. An edit mode will also feature.
Shingo Takatsuka, creator of the series and producer of PES 2008 said, "We have taken a long hard look at what has made the Pro Evolution Soccer series so popular, and where we want to take it next.
"With the new Teamvision AI system, we truly believe that we have elevated the game to a new level. The movement of players off the ball, coupled with the total control given to the player, creates the closest simulation of real football to date. We really hope everyone enjoys our evolution. I promise it will be worth the wait."
PES 2008 will be out in Autumn 2007. Konami "pulling out stops" for PES 2009 News News by Robert Purchese
14 August, 2008Konami claims to have "pulled out all the stops" in order to make Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 a "landmark in footballing games" as part of a raft of feature announcements today.
Controls, visuals and AI are all areas rethought and rebuilt in order to reinvigorate the football simulation - and of course to tackle increasingly stiff competition from FIFA.
Pulling off tricks, for instance, is now done by rapidly changing direction when on the ball, rather than by relying on complex special moves.
Teamvision AI, the big idea from last year, will be more adept and send team members off on runs as they adapt more intuitively to their surroundings.
Plus, everything you see should be more detailed, sound better, and behave much more realistically than ever before; weather conditions mean passes need to be stronger on soggier pitches and so on.
Become a Legend mode, however, is billed as the biggest addition in PES 2009. This casts you as a single midfielder or striker, because those are the most exciting positions, obviously.
Here you start as a rookie and plough your way to the top, climbing the transfer ladder after good results and falling down after bad ones.
Become a Legend extends online to Legends mode, which sounds a lot like Be a Pro from FIFA. Friends band together together in teams - no word on how many - and take on rival squads.
"We have pulled out all the stops to make PES 2009 a landmark in footballing games. From the most basic controls through to the wide-ranging additions to game modes such as Become a Legend, all-new visuals, sound, and the Edit mode, Seabass and his team have strived to cram as much as they can into the new game," said Jon Murphy from Konami.
"And with more online announcements to follow, there is every reason to believe that PES 2009 is the football game everyone has been waiting for."
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
YouTube - Capcom's Soccer Shootout: Germany vs. Holland (First Half)
Loved this game as the gameplay was so much fun. You could do a shoulder tackle too. Headers, diving headers, volleys, scissors, screamers all in. It only has 12 national teams with fake names yet is still fun. Fks were lovely. You could also score from Cks using the L and R buttons for spinning the ball.
Oh and guess what, it has indoor soccer!
Forgot to add its an SNES game.
YouTube - Capcom's Soccer Shootout: Germany vs. Holland (First Half)
Loved this game as the gameplay was so much fun. You could do a shoulder tackle too. Headers, diving headers, volleys, scissors, screamers all in. It only has 12 national teams with fake names yet is still fun. Fks were lovely. You could also score from Cks using the L and R buttons for spinning the ball.
Oh and guess what, it has indoor soccer!
Forgot to add its an SNES game.
Kaiser
PES Enthusiast
- 3 July 2003
- Borusse
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
FIFA say lots of things. Apparently they are implementing a bribe or "tapping up" function when dealing with transfers or licenses for FIFA11
FIFA say lots of things. Apparently they are implementing a bribe or "tapping up" function when dealing with transfers or licenses for FIFA11
mjsmith2k
Come on you Reds!
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Look at the size of the ball and the goal!
Have to say I've never played this game.. looks like fun though.
Look at the size of the ball and the goal!
Have to say I've never played this game.. looks like fun though.
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Yeah the ball wasn't right but that's what I'm trying to point at. It was all about gameplay back then. Human vs Human was incredibly fun.
Here's a vid of Human vs Human:
YouTube - Capcom's Soccer Shootout - Human vs Human Pt.2
Look at the size of the ball and the goal!
Have to say I've never played this game.. looks like fun though.
Yeah the ball wasn't right but that's what I'm trying to point at. It was all about gameplay back then. Human vs Human was incredibly fun.Here's a vid of Human vs Human:
YouTube - Capcom's Soccer Shootout - Human vs Human Pt.2
Nick Cave
Wrexham fan for my sins...
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Yeah, Sony would do a bomb in new pads if you could get gazumped or have your top players head turned by some money flush club...That would actually be good though
goalgerd
File Maker
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
il try that when i get home, plays abit like super soccer champ
Here's a vid of Human vs Human:
YouTube - Capcom's Soccer Shootout - Human vs Human Pt.2
il try that when i get home, plays abit like super soccer champ
charlievolano
Banned
- 20 January 2007
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Now i know where konami took their grass pattern/colours from....
Now i know where konami took their grass pattern/colours from....
zeemeister
foxy engine
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Lol agreed. PES should never have been made a pick up and play title for the whole family as konami put it so aptly.
id probably beat you mate,il play you online later ..... oh wait
what im saying is it used to be a challenge to play pes on the highest level and you needed to have some sort of a football brain,goals were not easy to come by matches never finished 8 or 9 nil.now anyone can pick it up and use these soft goal methods which has taken the skill out of it
Lol agreed. PES should never have been made a pick up and play title for the whole family as konami put it so aptly.
Nick Cave
Wrexham fan for my sins...
- Staff
- #2,963
matherto
20 times 20 times Man United
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
The animations, sounds and realism are at least on par with PES2009 there.
That looks a tonne more fun as well.
The animations, sounds and realism are at least on par with PES2009 there.
That looks a tonne more fun as well.
zeemeister
foxy engine
Confirmation that Konami have seen the light
Qouted from WENB
I just want to pass on a message to everyone at WENB to say thanks for all your input over the last few months. Your creativity and enthusiasm has been astonishing, and your support and obvious care for the game has gone beyond the call of duty. Your input has been passed back to the WEP team – yes, even the nets and gloves! – and I think you are going to be very pleased with some of the announcements we have planned just before gamescom. Thanks again for all your input – it is fair to say that you have been an integral part of the PES 2010 team, and we hope we can keep working with you in future versions, too.
And from PESgaming
PES Gaming members have probably been the most hard to convince that WEP are changing and are really making every effort to make improvements that the fans want. That’s not a criticism. I totally understand those feelings. But despite the scepticism, you’ve given the team some great food for thought, so a really big thank you from me for that. I’m now looking forward to reading reactions over the next few weeks to our announcements. I’m really confident we’ll be able to prove WEP has taken you fans seriously and is doing everything to come up with the game you’re asking for. Please keep the comments, suggestions and complaints coming. Your input is essential for now and the future.
I'm impressed Konami, but you all know the cliche proof....pudding...etc
Qouted from WENB
I just want to pass on a message to everyone at WENB to say thanks for all your input over the last few months. Your creativity and enthusiasm has been astonishing, and your support and obvious care for the game has gone beyond the call of duty. Your input has been passed back to the WEP team – yes, even the nets and gloves! – and I think you are going to be very pleased with some of the announcements we have planned just before gamescom. Thanks again for all your input – it is fair to say that you have been an integral part of the PES 2010 team, and we hope we can keep working with you in future versions, too.
And from PESgaming
PES Gaming members have probably been the most hard to convince that WEP are changing and are really making every effort to make improvements that the fans want. That’s not a criticism. I totally understand those feelings. But despite the scepticism, you’ve given the team some great food for thought, so a really big thank you from me for that. I’m now looking forward to reading reactions over the next few weeks to our announcements. I’m really confident we’ll be able to prove WEP has taken you fans seriously and is doing everything to come up with the game you’re asking for. Please keep the comments, suggestions and complaints coming. Your input is essential for now and the future.
I'm impressed Konami, but you all know the cliche proof....pudding...etc
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
I only hope you don't expect this to be totally true. There's no material time to implement things on a game that will achieve gold status in a month or two and, by now, has everything developed and only tweaking, refining and testing.
Surely, and that's a goood sign, they will add suggestions into the pes 2011 evolution, but it's absurd to gather feedback for improvements at the end of the development.
My guess is they will try to show things they have already developed and know that were wanted by the fans (mainly because it's YEARS we are demanding them publicly) as if they had listened to the community.
I only hope you don't expect this to be totally true. There's no material time to implement things on a game that will achieve gold status in a month or two and, by now, has everything developed and only tweaking, refining and testing.
Surely, and that's a goood sign, they will add suggestions into the pes 2011 evolution, but it's absurd to gather feedback for improvements at the end of the development.
My guess is they will try to show things they have already developed and know that were wanted by the fans (mainly because it's YEARS we are demanding them publicly) as if they had listened to the community.
goalgerd
File Maker
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
i agree mate,i think we will get mainly superficial fixes(nets,gloves,untucked shirts) for pes2010 ,and the actual gameplay fix we all want might take 1-2 years more to get it to the level we all wish for
i agree mate,i think we will get mainly superficial fixes(nets,gloves,untucked shirts) for pes2010 ,and the actual gameplay fix we all want might take 1-2 years more to get it to the level we all wish for
Lons
AMIGA 1200 HARDCORE FAN!
- 15 December 2007
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
If they add full mo-capture animations for players and keepers,fix ball psychics,online,gloves,nets,untucked shirts,graphics I think that PES 2010 will be good enough game
If they add full mo-capture animations for players and keepers,fix ball psychics,online,gloves,nets,untucked shirts,graphics I think that PES 2010 will be good enough game
Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
If they do that little then they can stop the series, because that would be their downfall.
They are no fools.
Rediculous assumption!
If they do that little then they can stop the series, because that would be their downfall.
They are no fools.