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I don't care about the dynamic weather bullshit...but the pass assistance and AI positioning sounds fucking annoying...Fuck Konami
 
Datiss77 said:
I saw this gameplay. It's really a complete arcade game. It takes three to four passes to reach the goal. And the gameplay speed is even higher. The culprits are the testers who test the game. This game was closed to me. In general all football games have gone online and a game of the arcade. The truth is bitter.

E3 code was much better. Much better
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Yes. Its clearly a ping, pong arcade match with two players who showed in the argentina vs france match they played they are deliberatley playing it like the standard you see in PES League.

Right now. while its a concern i will wait till trying the demo. Key really is the passing for me and people using certian formations. People deliberaltey head towards PA3 and do not want to work hard to pass and want a fun experience only. This is what i was speaking about yearstarday. Especially fir the young generation. Those in teenage to 20-21 they dont care about sims like we used to. In the video everything outside of the passing looks good. So I wait to see how dynamic the game truly is or if if it really just is all out arcade which i actually doubt. I think there are just people who live to play games all day and want just to have arcadey fun.

The key is Konami getting the balance.
 
Ameppe said:
I hate to bring more bad news but they faked the dynamic shadows moving they showed with launch trailer. Masuda today confirmed that when we start at sunset we will have two different lighting. Sunset lighting during the first half and night lighting after we start the second half. He says implementing a realtime lighting is still difficult.

Now i wish someone sued them for false advertising,why lie?
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I'm actually glad they've done this. If you had dynamic done properly, then with the game time sped up in 10 minute matches, you would literally see the shadows move across the pitch as you play and would be very distracting. Starting off with sunset in first half, then moving into night for the second is fine with me
 
Chuny said:
So, I guess we can all agree we are left with a sour taste in the mouth after these new videos and informations have seen the light.
From this:

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To a faster, more assisted version for the Demo/Final Game.



And then we also went from this:



To this:



Good thing I haven't pre-ordered it this year. Guess I'm finally growing wiser.
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Is that hum Vs hum ?
That's so fucking eSports shit.
Hopefully it's H v H and PA3.
Otherwise I'm so fucking out
 
klashman69 said:
Yes. Its clearly a ping, pong arcade match with two players who showed in the argentina vs france match they played they are deliberatley playing it like the standard you see in PES League.

Right now. while its a concern i will wait till trying the demo. Key really is the passing for me and people using certian formations. People deliberaltey head towards PA3 and do not want to work hard to pass and want a fun experience only. This is what i was speaking about yearstarday. Especially fir the young generation. Those in teenage to 20-21 they dont care about sims like we used to. In the video everything outside of the passing looks good. So I wait to see how dynamic the game truly is or if if it really just is all out arcade which i actually doubt. I think there are just people who live to play games all day and want just to have arcadey fun.

The key is Konami getting the balance.
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I played PES 6 again recently and completely forgot what it was like to play PES where passing was assisted (as i play manual now). I don't get why people enjoy playing with that much assistance. I love playing the ball into space on manual... you could even do that on PA1 in PES 2015 which i loved, now they've just made it full manual. I had a couple of mates try manual on PES 2018 (they play the other game) and first thing they said was "oh, you actually have to push the analog stick in the direction you want to pass?". That just sums it up for how the minds work of those who want a game to play with so much assistance. Gaming is all about skill. It's as if people nowadays have forgotten that.
 
RockyJJP said:
I've always wondered if PES2013 was so gruelling because of Engine limitations at the time, more than the creators wanting it to be.

Same goes for all previous Fox Engine PES games.
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PES 2013 is still my favorite football game. Its still played every day by many people.

It still has things PES 2018 and PES 2019 are missing.

It werent so grueling unless you made it that way. That game was dynamic.
 
Superhoop said:
I played PES 6 again recently and completely forgot what it was like to play PES where passing was assisted (as i play manual now). I don't get why people enjoy playing with that much assistance. I love playing the ball into space on manual... you could even do that on PA1 in PES 2015 which i loved, now they've just made it full manual. I had a couple of mates try manual on PES 2018 (they play the other game) and first thing they said was "oh, you actually have to push the analog stick in the direction you want to pass?". That just sums it up for how the minds work of those who want a game to play with so much assistance. Gaming is all about skill. It's as if people nowadays have forgotten that.
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Yes. Exactly. Its why i made that big post yesterday. We may have to create a movement to have a clearly defined arcade mode and simulation mode the way things are going.
 
Achiej84 said:
I don't care about the dynamic weather bullshit...but the pass assistance and AI positioning sounds fucking annoying...Fuck Konami
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In my wildest dreams i wouldn´t dare to announce such an absolute basic and simple thing like "changing weather/daytime at halftime" as one of the main features. But well, if you don´t have any other...
 
Superhoop said:
I'm actually glad they've done this. If you had dynamic done properly, then with the game time sped up in 10 minute matches, you would literally see the shadows move across the pitch as you play and would be very distracting. Starting off with sunset in first half, then moving into night for the second is fine with me
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Yeah I've got to admit, I'm with you here. I don't really care about the simulation level of the lighting. If you say you're no longer buying the game based on the angles of light in it, then... I mean, if that's the kind of thing you crave in a game, why on earth would you buy PES? When has PES been about presentation?

Yes, they appear to have promised something different, and that's after criticising EA for similar behaviour. But if there's one thing we know, it's that Konami will take after EA as much as they can if they think they'll edge a few more sales out of it (from ML Online to myClub, from "spins" to cards - and yes, I know it works both ways). Standard practice.

The bigger problem - surely - are the reports on Twitter from several sources that the latest build is much more assisted on the default settings. @B-Man sent me a little clip earlier of a perfect pass from a ridiculous body position that I hope he shares on here - it's just one of those things that makes you go "they have a direction and they're sticking to it".
 
Chris Davies said:
Yes, they appear to have promised something different, and that's after criticising EA for similar behaviour. But if there's one thing we know, it's that Konami will take after EA as much as they can if they think they'll edge a few more sales out of it (from ML Online to myClub, from "spins" to cards - and yes, I know it works both ways). Standard practice.
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So PES is the FIFA Simulator...
 
is there even a stat for First Touch in the Game?

and what's the difference between PA2 and PA4? does PA4 change every Players Passing Stats to 99?
 
Chris Davies said:
Yeah I've got to admit, I'm with you here. I don't really care about the simulation level of the lighting. If you say you're no longer buying the game based on the angles of light in it, then... I mean, if that's the kind of thing you crave in a game, why on earth would you buy PES? When has PES been about presentation?

Yes, they appear to have promised something different, and that's after criticising EA for similar behaviour. But if there's one thing we know, it's that Konami will take after EA as much as they can if they think they'll edge a few more sales out of it (from ML Online to myClub, from "spins" to cards - and yes, I know it works both ways). Standard practice.

The bigger problem - surely - are the reports on Twitter from several sources that the latest build is much more assisted on the default settings. @B-Man sent me a little clip earlier of a perfect pass from a ridiculous body position that I hope he shares on here - it's just one of those things that makes you go "they have a direction and they're sticking to it".
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Yep, this direction is the FIFA direction - Esports.
 
kovy said:
is there even a stat for First Touch in the Game?

and what's the difference between PA2 and PA4? does PA4 change every Players Passing Stats to 99?
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On PA1 in PES 2016-18 you can literally face the corner flag (all while your back is to the rest of the players and pitch), push the analog stick towards the corner flag , tap pass and it will still do a perfect pass to your nearest team-mate. If you did this on PA 1 in PES 2015... you would kick the ball out of play.
 
Superhoop said:
On PA1 in PES 2016-18 you can literally face the corner flag (all while your back is to the rest of the players and pitch), push the analog stick towards the corner flag , tap pass and it will still do a perfect pass to your nearest team-mate. If you did this on PA 1 in PES 2015... you would kick the ball out of play.
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Not that much in PES 18, using PA1 you can kick the ball out of play if next to the sidelines.
 
So should i expect cpu ai player accurate passing and backheel again in pes 2019 in superstar level ? and firminho getting sudden shorter transformation to match salah at goal celebration ?

Nnnnnnooooooooooo...
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Chuny said:
So, I guess we can all agree we are left with a sour taste in the mouth after these new videos and informations have seen the light.
From this:

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To a faster, more assisted version for the Demo/Final Game.



And then we also went from this:



To this:



Good thing I haven't pre-ordered it this year. Guess I'm finally growing wiser.
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wow, pin ball heaven right there.... no good no good
 
Thespeedster84 said:
So should i expect cpu ai player accurate passing and backheel again in pes 2019 ? and firminho getting sudden shorter transformation to match salah at goal celebration ?

Nnnnnnooooooooooo...
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After all we have seen until now i expect a identical copy of PES2018 with some tweaked ball physics, new nets, different lightning and some insufficient changes to positioning - and a nice bunch of lost licenses.

If this is worth 69 bucks is up to each own.
 
its999maggle said:
I introduce you to Marco Reus Simulator Arcade Video Game 2018.
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I'm pretty sure that this happens very rarely so at least don't act like it's happening all the time.
Like ''in my very next game''..Yeah right..
Injuries are nearly non existent in this game.Everybody knows this.That's why everyone liked that at least in 19 we're gonna see some more injuries if don't look out on players' stamina.
 
E3 code close to the release date, Passing more assisted and stuff, lets just hope its a placebo.

About the dynamic lighting, I already now that theres is no changes on the sun during the match. There is not even an option to choose day time on the pre match options in those videos. What makes Konami dishonest is the fact that they dont say nothing about it.
 
Dennis_87 said:
I'm pretty sure that this happens very rarely so at least don't act like it's happening all the time.
Like ''in my very next game''..Yeah right..
Injuries are nearly non existent in this game.Everybody knows this.That's why everyone liked that at least in 19 we're gonna see some more injuries if don't look out on players' stamina.
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Lol, I can post at least 50 videos of this happening.
 
Just two things bothering me:
1.Frequent backheels (why for god sake just don`t program them for players who had 85+ technique stat?)
2.Frequent outside foot passes.

IMHO these things make the game faster and more arcade than sim. Only best players can made this backheels in front of opposition goal successfully, here they are easy to perform like 2 metre normal passes without pressure. It`s not fair how simple things make the close but far in the same time from best pes of all time. But we will see whatpatches will bring...
 
Chuny said:
So, I guess we can all agree we are left with a sour taste in the mouth after these new videos and informations have seen the light.
From this:

View attachment 5333



To a faster, more assisted version for the Demo/Final Game.



And then we also went from this:



To this:



Good thing I haven't pre-ordered it this year. Guess I'm finally growing wiser.
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That video is an obscenity. The backheel to foul ratio is like 100:1

Football games are dead.
 
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